Pretty good analogy.

This is the NFL, not a war. And your analogy basically says Rodgers quit on his teammates like the sniper did.....and that never happened. So it's a bad take.

Aside from that, I have been saying on here and will say it again that I want to trade Rodgers at all costs. Sell high while we can and get a boatload of picks. I appreciate everything he's done, but it just feels like it's time to move on.

I would have sought a trade to the Swiss Army where I could play with my cool knife and not get in these situations. Or better yet, not flunk out of college, get drafted and sent to this shithole in the first place.

When I was playing football I could not stand these Rah Rah posers trying to compare football To war, football is a game so stop with the BS, it’s insulting to our real hero’s. If you want war Pooh bear just said he will bloody the heads of anyone who attempts to stop the reunification of China and Taiwan on a steel wall forged by 1.4 billion Chinese (commies) As much as I love the game you cannot compare football to war.

I think he is ego is so frail that he doesnt want to throw an interception and have it cost them the game and he has to deal with it, so he looks for adams as his savior and if he is covered he throws the ball away. He had two receivers wide open for big gains and threw the ball away

If he was good, they'd never get close to you to overrun your position...

Just saying

I wrote this to one of my Packer Buddies and I think it is true;

I said all year I felt this was 12's farewell tour! In the 9ers game in the 4th Qtr I had a disturbing felling that AR looked like Farve in the 07 game (old and cold) and more important- when the D stopped the 9ers down close, them I really felt this is where greatness shows. I don't care about talent its about will and leadership.

I still think about the 67 Title game as my example. Starr never had a great arm and the cowboys had a great pass rush (multiple sacks that day) but when the chips were down he skillfully moved the team for a touchdown.

Rodgers didn't even need to score he just needed to kill the clock with a few 1st downs and he couldn't even get close. I have not watched it 101 times like I usually do but just like Farve- he looked past the open guy to throw a home run ball! So should they trade him I will miss him for his ability to throw the football- but the time has come for someone with some spark to them!

"a lot will depend on what rodgers wants to do." Really? I never could have guessed.

The TV deal cap benefits are mostly expected to hit in 2024 to 27. Other than that, there is no doubt that the value is never going to be higher or that we won’t be able to give him as strong or as deep a surrounding roster this year.

Whatever happens, the Packers are destined to be a less talented team in 2022. I'm not grateful for that, but if it leads the Packers to longer term, sustained success, I'm on board.

"Favre is a HOF QB and can never be replaced", said just about all of us in 2008. As I've learned throughout a long and varied career, ANYONE can be replaced at any time. With a tremendous amount of luck, we have our next HOF QB already on the team :) Doubtful, I know, but imagine the faces of Vikings and Bears fans if/when Love becomes a superstar over the next 2-3 seasons and we continue to dominate the division.

But yeah, it's time to move our QB and let DA find a new home.

“The FO never got him WRs.”—True but how much did they try? How much would you give up to trade up or give up to get a “dynamic” WR? I’m not convinced that “we traded up to get Jordan Love” I’m convinced they traded up to get Justin Jefferson and the Vikings beat us to him cuz we couldn’t get a deal done to move up higher. Again how much do we give up to move up or trade for a player. Everyone knows that getting another “dynamic” WR would make us lethal. So why would they not demand a premium in return? We talk trading AR now cuz his value won’t be higher, the same for us getting someone in a trade or draft pick.

"Yet; they never went after what it takes to turn this offense into a juggernaut. "

Apparently you slept through 2020 when they were an offensive juggernaut with largely the same cast of characters. It didn't get them the prize.

As we've all heard Murphy, Ball, Gutekunst, and MLF havd all said they want him back in Green Bay...They HAVE to say that. As Bruce and others have pointed out, the trade value will never be this high, nor will it ever be there after the next few months.

The Packers are going to have to rebuild or retool no matter what. Extending Rodgers GUARANTEES a worse roster moving forward, loss of several key players from 2021 who maybe could have been brought back, and the worse, a MUCH tougher rebuild once he does retire a few years later.

I appreciate the greatness that is Aaron Rodgers and it's a damn shame the Packers only won one SB with him. But bringing him back doesn't guarantee a SB. The HAUL the Packers could get for Rodgers gives them a much better opportunity to build greatness with a DIFFERNT kind of Roster.

I've listened to several podcasts, read several articles by "Cap Gurus" like our own The Great Reynaldo. The bottom line in EVERY podcast or article is the Packers are better off moving on, at least IMO. Give me Jerry Juedy or Noah Fant, or fill in the blank and draft picks...

Stafford brought 2 firsts and a 3rd plus Geoff. Stafford was younger but the Rams needed to sell even more of their future to put this team around him. Can you imagine how BAD this Rams team will be in 2 or 3 years when Von Miller, OBJ, Stafford, and even Aaron Donald are no longer performing at or near this level or even on the team? Can you imagine trying to rebuild or retool WITHOUT any draft picks because you traded them all away?

The Packers have been pretty good for 30 years, since 1992. First Favre, then Rodgers, and now Love or possibly someone else. IF it is someone else, wouldn't you want as many swings at the plate as you could get? Trading Rodgers does two things. It gives you more swings at the plate for Rodgers successor if Love isn't the guy, OR it helps build a friggen powerhouse for the next 5 or 6 years, maybe more starting with hopefully Denver's 9th overall selection.

Rodgers isn't retiring, he's not sharing the HOF stage with Brady..NO WAY! Hopefully he's playing in the AFC next season, and Jordan Love is running this offense the way it was meant to be run.

I appreciate everything Rodgers has done, but the SF loss felt different....it didn't feel like another playoff loss, it felt like an end of era loss.

They went all in. They lost. It sucks, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

It's perfectly ok to want to move on from a 38 year old 4x MVP QB who could be a golden goose for the Packers and set them up for the next decade with draft picks and/or players.

Everybody wants the next Patrick Mahomes. The 49ers showed that with great defense, a tough running game and competent special teams, that someone like Jimmy G is enough to at least get to a Super Bowl and to another NFC title game (and narrowly losing).

That should be the strategy and way forward now: trade Rodgers, cut other salary cap heavy guys like Z, re-load with draft picks, and build around Love....by keeping the elite D intact, rebuilding special teams, leverage the two-headed monster we have at RB and using the picks on WRs.

This ain't rocket science. Father Time is undefeated and Rodgers' time will come as well. Man, Denver makes so much sense for so many reasons...I hope we find out before the end of February.

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I think the cap value of ARod to another team is misleading: he'll need a new contract pretty much immediately, so the 2022 cap hit is TBD for an acquiring team.

I've been mostly about ARod the commodity and his value not just to the Packers in 2021...or 2022...but how he helps the Packers going forward. The covid cap crunched this team into a one-season run in 2021 and it didn't pay. The pieces are going to have to shuffle, and the ticket to a 2022 contender is unexpected young players stepping up around ARod. I contend that ARod's highest value now is as a source of draft capital. Yes, it's a crap shoot, but a decimated roster with an aging QB and a cap that will continue to be handcuffed by his deal--even when it expands because his salary demands will need to be pushed down the road--won't allow this team to grow with its competition.

It has little to do with Jordan Love. I could care less which QB the Packers win with going forward. If it's Love? Great. But find that player. ARod in green/gold at this stage is more of an impediment to future Packers success as it is a aid.

QB Brett Hundley 24 1 9 192 for 316, 1,836 yards, 9 td, 12 int, & 36 rushes for 270 yards and 2 td
RB Jamaal Williams 22 Rook 7 153 rushes for 556 yards, 4 td, & 25 catches for 262 yards and 2 td
WR Davante Adams* 25 3 14 74 catches for 885 yards, 10 td
WR Randall Cobb 27 6 14 66 catches for 653 yards, 4 td, & 9 rushes for 17 yards and 0 td
WR Jordy Nelson 32 9 15 53 catches for 482 yards, 6 Look at who Rodgers had to throw to for 10 years. I'm surprised, and you would be too. The stats don't lie. Rodgers should have had more then 4 MVPs. Forget Love! He's not going to be better then Hundley. The speed of Jennings, Nelson, Finley, and Driver was never replaced.

Schefter said today Packers all in on Rodgers for 22, working a deal similar to the Saints and Brees , 13timesachump won’t be happy .

In another universe, Brian Urlacher has another biscuit for breakfast on a January Sunday in 2011, jukes Aaron Rodgers and takes it to the house for a pick-6. Caleb Haney becomes a Chicago folk hero / Nick Foles avant-la-lettre when Robbie Gould hits a walk off 55yd FG. Rodgers comes close several more times but always comes up short in the big game. At the end of his career he and Kirk Cousins are elected to the Statistical Hall of Fame.

So pretty much like this universe.

It will be interesting to see how re-signing Rodgers changes this roster. I doubt they can restructure Rodgers cap hit, to keep other players, but we'll see...

I would rather be an NFC Championship contender with a shot at the SB with Rodgers than a team that most likely won’t make the playoffs with Love or some retread like Fitzpatrick … If we had the answer at QB on the roster I would be all in for trading Rodgers.. but that is not the case.. extend Rodgers and buy some time to find his replacement

I guess my hope is this "We are all in on Aaron Rodgers" talk is simply the Front office's attempt to drive up his trade value essentially saying to other teams you will not get Rodgers short of 3 firsts. If we extend Aaron Rodgers then the Jordan Love pick is then officially a wasted pick......no other way to say it.....it is not possible they can have a full evaluation on Love either. He needs to play.

I think it’s best for the Packers to trade Rodgers. However, it takes two to tango. Who wants him? On paper he looks like an attractive option for a team wanting a short term QB. The problem is the same one the Packers have: will there be enough left over after paying Rodgers to field the kind of team you want/need? It depends on what you want. Rodgers doesn’t make enough plays to get you to the Super Bowl, but his salary precludes teams from signing the kind of players they would need to put them over the top.

OK, but what if a team just wants to get out of the basement? If a team’s ambitions are modest, they’re less likely to want to pay a king’s ransom for a QB, either in terms of salary or picks or players.

I think the closest comparison is more Favre than Stafford, who was a better overall value than Rodgers. (Which doesn’t mean Stafford is the better QB) Then the question for Gutekunst becomes “Are you willing to trade your marquee guy for a 4th rd pick?”. Regardless of whether that’s fair value or the best price available, you know you will catch flak for trading a fan favorite. If things don’t go well, you’re out of a job. From a bureaucratic perspective, it would probably be better for him to hang on to Rodgers and let Father Time and the salary cap take the blame for whatever happens.

Expected from the Packers Head Office: We are all in on keeping Rodgers as our quarterback

Imagine if the Packers Head Office said: We thank Rodgers for his contributions, but it's in the best long term interests of the team to allow him to retire as a Packer or if he chooses to... move on.

I'm no football guru so like most Packer fans, I will sit and wait...and wait... to see what happens.

There really is a possibility the FO put this "We want Aaron and he will the the highest paid QB" into the ether as a strong bargaining position. They get maximum compensation for Rodgers and they can say something along the lines of "we did everything we could to keep Aaron" to the fanbase. This contract stuff coming out is strange....this is not how the Packers traditionally negotiate...

I think these articles are kind of ridiculous. It is clear that the Packers want to keep Rodgers in the fold. The first reason for trading him is it you haven’t been to a Super Bowl in 10 years. So here you have a Hall of Fame quarterback and you can’t get to a Super Bowl. How do you think you’re gonna do that going forward with a huge question mark at quarterback. How did the saints look without Brees? How do the patriots look without Brady? The Steelers have nobody in the wings to replace big Ben. And what have the Giants done since two time Super Bowl winner Eli Manning retired? Not to mention, the Colts since the other Manning left. Or even the Broncos since the other Manning left. I think when you have a quarterback of this caliber you have to keep swinging for the fences. Seahawks know this and that’s why they’re trying to hang onto Russell Wilson. That’s why Tampa Bay went after Brady. It just doesn’t matter how strong of a roster you build, if you don’t have a top level quarterback you’re not going all the way.

Rodgers is both a blessing and a curse. Between ML's superior scheming and Rodgers incredible talent, the horrible pass-catching group and a somewhat suspect OL (particularly when they are down Bahk and Jenkins) is papered over in regular season play. 2 straight years, we've seen an offense with a lofty regular season ranking fall apart in the playoffs. At home. Against warm-weather teams. I don't think anything changes until the Packers come to grips with the fact that their offense is in need of a serious talent infusion.

Ron Wolf figured it out. He once said his greatest regret was not surrounding Favre with better pass catchers. TT learned that lesson and invested heavily to help Rodgers along. It worked to bring home a Lombardi. Gute is repeating Wolf's mistake. Trading Rodgers should give them the draft capital for Gute to atone for his sins as they move on to Jordan Love.

Rodgers reminds me of something that is old and extremely valuable, but has reached it's peak value. He is like a valuable collectable which others will obtain at a high price if made available, To it's owner (Packers) it has brought maximum value, but change is scary for anyone especially to a place which is only relevant because of it's football history . You have to be willing to move on at some point and take a chance.

A great investor understands that the time to sell is when you have achieved maximum value from your investment and will get maximum value from moving on from it .

Only wrench in this plan is if Rodgers Retires which I find impossible to believe . The ,man is not married has no kids but also is still super competitive and supremely talented.

Will the packers be irrelevant without Rodgers , maybe most likely unless Jordan Love is above average which he might be no one knows 1 game doesn't tell a story.

Amazing all the hate on Rodgers , did anyone notice the play of special teams against the niners ? Even if the Packers scored more special teams may have cost us the championship game or even worse the super bowl so its a good thing it happened in the first round , it was bound to happen but go ahead and blame Rodgers .

After weeks of worrying about the Packer's future, it finally hit me:
I'd rather have a team with no Rodgers than Rodgers with no team.
The Szotman

Wow, ARod making the news on Super Bowl Sunday. Who woulda thunk it? First he derails draft day, now this. Coincidence?

The Packers need to move on from Aaron Rodgers for similar reasons the alcoholic needs to throw away the bottle or the smoker needs to ditch the cigs. It's become an unhealthy addiction dependency.

Rodgers' sal-cap space isn't the only thing with him too big for the club. He's got a swelled head. He's now an out and out "me" guy not a "team" man. He's a brilliant performer but he's not a team leader. Watch him sitting on the bench when not on the field. Brady used to be up bucking up guys, encouraging, challenging. A Rod just sits there with his cape on and a blank stare in his eyes.

Check his expression and "body language" almost from the start of the playoff last month. You could see the Pack was in trouble by the absence of any passion or drive to him. 'Last Dance" ha. More like last laugh.

Even if he just retired or the Packers were to outright release him the $46.6 million cap clearance could mean at least half a dozen good players being retained or acquired instead.

What might he fetch in trade? That depends on the old buyer or seller motivation. There are some teams that would certainly like to have him; Denver seeming most likely. The Broncos GM denies but he's made moves that appear exactly to bring A Rod aboard. He can't appear too eager because it motivates Green Bay to asking for more.

But potential trade partners know the Packers have incentives to want to move Rodgers due to his sal-cap hit. That could mean Green Bay getting less than some imagine.

Right now Rodgers thinks he owns the Packers and he's got the front office and coaching kow-towing to him. That's never a good situation for an organization. If Murphy, Gutey and MLF are going to surrender their jobs to the quarterback they might as well go on leave for a year and let Aaron run the club his way.

It's time to be the GREEN BAY Packers not the "Aaron Rodgers' " Packers.

Do we even need reasons at this point?

Just trade him already — and may god have mercy on his soul…

Price just went up.

Worse they already leaked they plan to basically bankrupt the team in two years when Rodgers is done they will be so far in debt all the top players with Rodgers will exit stage left and you will be stuck with a horrid team for years to come.
Now if they try and keep Adams too this team is in serioius fn trouble. They better hope they win a super bowl but this team aint anywhere near good enough to do that.

rodgers has zero intention of going anywhere, This is all bullshit, He wants to come back but has to make sure Adams in on the team. He can do that by threatening to leave.