Rex, this is a glaring error:

"He finished 17 of 21 for 158 yards and one touchdown, with a passer rating of 113.9."

Mayfield recorded a perfect passer rating, the first in stadium history. You'll want to edit that.

Sometimes I seriously wonder whether Barry is doing these things on purpose, since he has to know he pulled the upset of the century by being retained, and knows he is gone after this year. So, effectively, he is "sticking it to the Packers" by continuing to put on these futile displays of ineptitude. Meanwhile, Vic Fangio, who was available during the off season, is fielding an effective defense in Miami. Perhaps if Saleh is fired by the Jets, they could lure him to Green Bay as DC. Well, a guy can dream, it's Christmas, and the New Year is just a few weeks away.

Come on Rex, we are the GB Packers, we don't fire incompetent coordinators in-season.

We are not like the 8-6 Buffalo Bills who fired their Offensive Coordinator and have gone 3-1 since then.

We are not like the 10-3 Philadelphia Eagles who just demoted their Defensive Coordinator.

We are the 6-8 Packers and the envy of the NFL.

"Their overall PFF coverage grade of 29.3 today is the lowest grade of any team in a single game in the last 5 seasons."

I swear I have seen worse defense from the packers. I guess just not in the past 5 years.

I hear Brandon Staley is looking for work...

Of course, Barry's expiration date is long past due. Unfortunately, we have to look past him to his assistants. If he's fired now, who on that side of the coaching staff, would anyone trust to lead the defense?

Poor Fritz Shurmur and other Packer greats from the team's glorious past are rolling over in their graves!

I think we're got it all wrong! We should FIRE LAFLEUR first for his indecisive and cowardly behavior. Because the first thing a SANE HC would do is get rid of Barry asap.

So, 2 birds with one stone.

I still don't believe they dump him after KC and Detroit.
The defensive unit will be at full strength shortly.
It's just a matter of the veterans playing up to their contracts.
The New players listen. But have to sit.
The vets can't stay on the field.
Losing any momentum it takes for progress.

Let's cut to the chase: The simplest solution is to relieve MLF and Barry of their duties and appoint Bisaccia as the interim for the last three games. While MLF has done a reasonable good job of transitioning the offense from Rodgers to Love and company, the exponential stubbornness he is displaying with Barry is beyond belief.

It has been said countless times that Packers have an abundance of talent on defense, but it would be nice to actually see how much if they could ever be freed from some of these asinine schemes and put in a position to succeed. It might be greater or less than some may have imagined, but we'll never know until a change is made.

Probably just wishful thinking on my part due to the Murphy situation being in the way. Some kind of executive powwow might be the best hope, though, because does anyone trust MLF to do the right thing or make an astute short-term hire?

It all starts at the top... Barry is not the only one who should leave... Time to clean house in the front office... I don't want these idiots making another draft selection... Clean house in Packer Land.

You got to understand that math wise this team, and to me its very fuzzy math, is still in the hunt. If the Planet Pluto explodes as the same time Saturn loses some rings and Kelsy proposes to miss wonderful and it all happens on a Saturday at noon, they may make the play offs.
I listened to one analyst who is really pissed at the Packers and obviously a fan said that the Panthers will make the Packers crap their pants at home and totally embarass the team, only then will they start to get rid of people and change. Lets hope so but what if the cheap ass management goes out to find someone else who is not on anyones radar, is a has been and wouldnt make any other teams DC, thats who you'll end up with just to save a fn buck.
Dom Capers, way past his prime when we got him, his successor was god awful but better then Barry, but no way in hell they went out and got a tough nosed disciplinarian because that person would gutt the defense of all the losers and demand free agents and real playes and the management doesnt want to pay for that bill.

That's the thing: Matt LaFleur hired Joe Barry in the first place. Why? There was nothing in Barry's resume to recommend him in the first place. And last year at the end of a dismal defensive season by the Packers, Matt stubbornly refused to get rid of Joe Barry. So maybe the real problem is Matt LaFleur.

Bill Michaels played a clip from ESPN's Sunday coverage. Rex Ryan and crew ripped the Packers defense, calling it 'awful', noting the depth of talent on the unit is not producting results.. Eric Barancyzk(sp?) noted that multiple times Campbell went wide to cover a running back or wide receiver while the much faster Quay Walker stayed inside. Walker's strength is his speed and Campbells' is his toughness inside. That shows some koo-koo execution by the defensive planners.

As I have commented many times, a great defense only requires a mediocre offense to win. The Packers offense is coming around, but the defense is going in reverse.

We who watch a lot of football and have followed the game for years know one thing most coaches will admit to, both in college, high school and the pros: when you find something that works, you stick with it until your opponent figures out how to stop it and force you to then try something else.
One analyst pointed out kindly, the Bucs have a hell of a running game but yet weren't even trying to run - as in the pickings are so easy for Mayfield passing for big yards, there is no reason to run. The analyst was being kind by not saying that.
I mean 12 long first downs in a row not once being stopped by the pack d? A decent QB looking all world, greatest of great at Lambeau? This was an embarrassment LeFleur needs to study? Fire his ass too none of us will miss either one of them. Really is there one freekin person in GB who would miss LeFluer - two playoff games that were one and done and two years no playoffs. Shit coach could accomplish that

LaFleur was called " A MORON " on the Pat Mcafee show , finally someone calling him out !

At home with Baker Mayfield at Lambeau Field

"By the grace of the Big Man Upstairs, Green Bay still has a shot at making the playoffs"

Goodell?

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I am extremely disappointed to hear that Joe Barry is still employed by the Green Bay Packers.

In your header the phrase " The defense laid a big ole egg " jumped out to me .... as I'm thinking of " egg " as a polite euphemism for what I saw spewed all over the field yesterday.

It is an absolute certainty Barry is out for the simple fact that Gutey has invested far too much draft capital in the D to accept these results. Either he can admit that he does not know talent or, he can fire Barry for not coaching them up. Mmmm, hard choice, huh.

What’s the difference if they fire him or not? In scoring our offense is averaging a point more than the Bears or Commanders.
No big time or capable DC will want to coach under MLF.
I’m sure Barry is gone after they finish 7-10, or 6-11, but if you think MLF picking a new DC will make them winners, you must have missed the offense against Denver, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and yes the Giants. 21.4 per game on this schedule is not good for an offensive guru, and qb that watched Rodgers for 3 years. When exactly does MLF get the blame? This is the fourth coordinator he fired after the horse left the barn. And he didn’t even fire this one yet.

When Robert Saleh gets fired by the Jets - he would make a fine DC for Green Bay

Barry will not be fired or let go until the season is over. Matt LeFluer is just too nice of a guy to do that, plus he picked Barry!!! It will look bad on him to fire Barry during the season. Hopefully, LeFluer will bring in someone outside the Packet family business, an ass kicker. Someone who starts fresh and treats everyone the same. Rookies, second year players, veterans... Should all fight for a JOB, nothing handed out!!!

Did anyone see Carrington Valentine celebrating the only pass batted down by the Packers all day. End of third quarter, Packers already being roasted. Very next play a PI on Ballentine. Valentine was coming off a rough Monday night.
I can’t see this happening on a team that really respects its HC. Or I would question the collective IQ of this entire team.
Patrick Taylor, Quay Walker , Keisean Nixon, .. not the brightest group.

Everyone is picking on the D, but the O only scored 20 yesterday. Unless you have an elite defense holding teams to something in the teens, that's not gonna cut it.

In the 8 losses this year, the O has scored 24, 20, 13, 17, 10, 19, 22, and 20. Pretty awful. 7 of 8 are 20 pts or less. Pretty hard to win with that.

Sure the D needs to improve, and yesterday was awful, but the D is not the reason for majority of the losses this year.

Saw this awesome post on a different website:

Packers defense has allowed career games in the last two years to
Daniel Jones
Zach Wilson
Bailey Zappe
Taylor Heinke
Ryan Tannehill
Desmond Ritter
Kenny Pickett
Tommy Devito
Baker Mayfield

I feel if Berry was going to get fired it would have already happened. Matt seems very loyal to his coaches and I get it (I have learned the hard way) but at some he point he will have to come to the realization that if he doesn't make change it is going to reflect on him if not now but certainly going forward.

Perhaps the stage is too big for MLF. He has said multiple times after losing games that GB "has been out-coached." Thankfully (for him), the Packers do not have an owner, or he would be gone.

The consensus of opinion seems to be that GB doesn't fire coaches mid-season.
BUT, that's when Mike McCarthy got canned, after a bad loss to a bad team (Zona) in '18.
So who knows?
The Szotman

I am no longer as frustrated concerning Coach Barry as I am the person responsible for retaining him.

Just a side note: it could be just me, but when the camera panned to the Packer sideline before the final whistle blew...it was the first time I felt Love and Doubs look completely demoralized. Mainly Love.

This will all shake out and I am very excited to see the Packers roster and coaches in a year or two. The gems this year for me that was totally surprising were the wins against the Lions and Chiefs...those were awesome!

Peace,

Pantz

The players don’t want to play for Barry they know he is calling incorrect coverage and they just go with the flow if he’s not fired today he’s here to stay .

In the event of a total nuclear Holocaust only 3 living things would survive.
1.) Keith Richards
2.) Willie Nelson
and
3.) Cockroaches!

LaFleur's continued insistence that Joe Barry be added to that list is an unforgivable insult to the other three!

Campbell has been crucified today and perhaps rightfully so……but this also points out Barry’s propensity to put players in positions to fail ! Putting Campbell on a wide out is insanity….playing db’s 10 /15 yds off is as bad and leaving Huge gaps between the rush and lbs is worse ! We have good defensive players but Barry always puts in positions to fail! Suck it in……MLF won’t can him and maybe next year’s head coach will bring in a coordinator with some 🏈

The most troubling thing Is Joe Barry has been an Incompetent Boob his whole career as a DC and Matt LeFleur
still hired him! GEEZ!!!!!!

The bigger story as we all know… young team, cash strapped. MLF ain’t going anywhere. He may fire Barry. But that will be the extent of change during such a rebuild.

At the beginning of the season, 6 wins was widely expected. Don’t get too carried away by past successes…

As a long time Packer fan - one who goes back to the Ice Bowl and before. I just cannot see why they are being so proper in not dismissing Barry after Sunday's performance. A performance that was under pressure and an ebarrasment. . And just look at the coaches and assistants this year who have been dismissed this year including most recently Steelers OC. And OC of the Bills. Factor in the the Pack fired McCarthy before Black Monday - why oh why wasnt Barry fired. Now there is a few things such as injury to the roster but - there seems to be a lack of hustle and a lack of scheme and a lack of the desire to win. I also wonder if some of the players are taking longer to recover because they dont want to be re-injured because they are not putting their desire to win above playing a little bit hurt. When the going gets tough the tough get going.

Thing is, if you fire Barry now, who replaces him? They don't have a strong staff with someone who could step up right away. Best to just wait for the offseason, what's really going to change this year?

I agree with the comments that Barry and MLF should be gone by now. However as I have posted on numerous previous occasions since the end of the 2020 season I am not expecting that the people who created this on going mess for the Packers are capable of getting the Packers out of this mess. The inaction by management over the last few seasons is proof that management does not yet see the need to make the necessary changes for the benefit of the team.

They have no sense of urgency due to a sold out stadium, the Titletown District and league revenue sharing. If Murphy is allowed to hand pick his successor after he retires in 2025 the current situation could go one for a long time. Ultimately MLF will be the scapegoat but the issues with the Packers are systemic and begin further up in the organization's hierarchy. Thanks, Since '61

I've heard this song before. Fire Donatell. Fire Capers. Fire Pettine. Fire Bates.

If the Packers don't make the playoffs this year, he's as good a scapegoat as anybody. If we don't make the playoffs next year, heads are going to roll when the new Prez comes in. This is LaFleur's call, and his bacon is on the line too.

Whoever we hire to replace him , we'll be wanting fired in a few years.

My heart sank on the very first snap of Sunday's game. The Bucs receiver split out to the right. He was uncovered at the snap. About 2 1/2 seconds later he caught the pass 5 yards down field with the Packers DB 5 yards further down field. Next thing he's being pushed out of bounds after and 11-yard gain. It went like that all the way to the 20-yard line where our defense suddenly decided it might be time to start playing ball. The reporters covering this team are way too polite. Someone should have asked Barry why the hell didn't they start covering receivers at their 20-yard line instead of waiting until they got to our 20-yard line.
This team will never win anything with Barry as DC. I hope he is being fired as I type this!

Id mentioned on another forum that win lose or draw this year some of the Packer tree needed pruning in the off season. This particular limb should have been lopped off a while back Barry has never had success in the pros as a d coordinator, hes a linebacker coach, period. He coordinated an 0-16 lions defense under marinelli,, and his redskins ne commanders defense was near the bottom of the league too. The knock was "he didnt have the talent he has here" True enough hes got better talent here.....and hes squandering it. The drive at the end of the half tells the story, 2nd and 29 after a penalty and sack, and the next play goes for 24 yards. Come on man. Thats not good enough We need a defensive coordinator who understands defense. Barry isnt it. Time to move on

Incompetence and no accountability, the 2023 Green Bay Packers coaching staff, and, some players.

I don't think the nail in the coffin was actually the defense giving up yards, or even the 34 points necessarily.

The NAIL, in my opinion is.........

That people are discussing Baker Mayfields perfect passer rating of 158.3.
I mean, c'mon, that's just embarrassing for the Packers right?

Maybe i'm wrong but...meh .02

Every staff can have a shelf life. Philly kicked Andy Reid out. There were other coaches whose success came after a move even our MM. I would like to see Lafleur have another year with Love the same as MM had after AR. But we need a different voice on the defensive side of the ball. Not sure that Lafleur is an offensive Guru but I dont like dumping HCs when a new QB has first year development issues. How has worked for the Jets or Buffalo or Giants or Carolina or especially da Bears

https://www.theonion.com/james-webb-telescope-finds-evidence-of-packers-...

The vast majority of the comments all seem to be in favor of firing Joe Barry and I am in full agreement. I saw many comments about effort and so on, injuries, and poor play calling - I find myself saying there is something to all of that- but one comment really stuck out how does De'Vondre Campbell end up in coverage on WR's five or six times in a game.

I learned in Pewee football if they are running over your DE put a bigger body there- if Mayfield is picking on your match-up then change the match up. I know football is harder than that but in the years Barry has been here Gb could never stop the run- now they can stop nothing. I was not shocked over the frustration losses early on where GB lost because of so many penalties oh wait now after 3/4 of the season we have 9 or 10 again tonight.

Hard to imagine worse results with all the back ups in so where do you go from here??