Super Bowls Can Be Won Without a Star Receiver

Pack can look to recent history for the path.

It’s too early to know for sure, but it would appear that the Green Bay Packers are going to start the 2022 football season without an established star receiver. Surely by September they will have added some mid-range veterans and draft picks, but barring a blockbuster trade for someone like DK Metcalf, which seems unlikely, the team will enter week one without a true “star” pass catcher. 

 

If so, it will be the first time in 35 seasons. Not since Sterling Sharpe broke out as a first team all pro in 1989 have the Packers begun a campaign without one of the best receivers in the league. Over the last three and a half decades, Green Bay has not only enjoyed the heroics of the incredible Sharpe, but also Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Jordy nelson and Davante Adams. Of course, that stretch largely coincides with the team’s run of Hall of Fame quarterback play. 

 

Judging by the Super Bowl championship teams of the past three years, it would be easy to conclude that, in today’s offensive, pass-happy NFL, you simply can’t win a Super Bowl without at least one elite receiver. After all, this year’s Los Angeles Rams won it with guys like Cooper Kupp, Odell Beckham and Robert Woods. In 2021 Tom Brady led Tampa Bay to the Lombardi trophy by throwing to top targets such as Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and Antonio Brown. In 2020 Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes had the explosive Tyreek Hill destroying secondaries. It begs the question: Can the Packers win a Super Bowl without a star receiver? 

 

Looking at the eleven teams who won the championship since Green Bay last did it in 2011, the answer is yes. But you have to bring something else to the table. Maybe a dominant defense, or an outstanding tight end, or an exceptional running attack. The New England Patriots won three Super Bowls from 2015 to 2019. The leading receiver on those teams was Julian Edelman. A good player of course, but certainly not a great one. But those Patriot teams also had arguably the best tight end of all time in Rob Gronkowski, a defense that consistently finished in the top ten, and a legendary quarterback. 

 

In 2018 the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl with Nelson Agholor and Alshon Jeffery as their leading receivers. Agholor led the position group with a mere 62 catches. Here again, they were boosted by an exceptional tight end, as Zack Ertz led the team with 74 receptions. 

 

How about the Seattle Seahawks in 2014? Their leading pass catcher that championship season was Golden Tate who caught just 64 balls. But they also had Marshawn Lynch powering through defenses, and the Legion of Boom was dominating on the other side. And then perhaps the best example. In 2013 the Baltimore Ravens, with Joe Flacco as their quarterback, won the trophy. Anquan Boldin was the leading receiver with just 65 catches. But Ray Rice was in the midst of a pro bowl year at running back, and the punishing defense, led by Ray Lewis, kept the team in every game. 

 

So you get the point. The Packers can absolutely win a Super Bowl without a star wideout. But they will need other aspects of the team to become exceptional. And that could very well happen. This defense finished top ten last year, with all starters coming back, plus the return of Jaire Alexander and the addition of Jarran Reed. They won’t have a premier tight end, though Robert Tonyan will be an adequate weapon when he returns from his knee injury. Green Bay will need to step up its running game. They finished 18th in total rush yards last season. It’s not for lack of talent. Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon are a solid one-two punch, and the O-line should be better with David Bakhtiari and Elgton Jenkins eventually returning, and a year of experience under the belt for Josh Myers, Royce Newman and Yosh Nijman. It would help if Matt LaFleur sticks with the run a little more consistently than he has in the past. This year he may have little choice. 

 

Oh, and they also have that Hall of Fame quarterback coming back. It’s entirely possible that Aaron Rodgers may develop a liking to one of the pass catching newcomers, and feed him the ball often enough to make him a new star.  

 

There actually could be a positive around having to rebuild the receiving corps. It may just force the front office to redesign the team to fit the climate it lives in. Right now, the Packers are a passing team playing in a cold weather location. Not a good combination. If the lack of star receivers requires the Pack to focus more on running the ball and fortifying the defense, that will improve their chances in the playoffs. 

 

So don’t fret if the receiver roster heading into the season doesn’t scare anybody. There’s more than one way to get this done. Recent Super Bowl history proves it

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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April 04, 2022 at 06:29 am

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murf7777's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:34 am

New England normally had a top 5 defense, that is exactly what GB needs to win it all. Top 10 isn’t enough. Invest in OL and Defense in this draft and the Packers will be well rewarded. A great QB and OL will make everyone else on offense better. Any receiver on an NFL roster can get open if given 3+ seconds to do so. It doesn’t matter if one receiver gets 1200 yards or 2 get the 1200 yards. Those same receivers can make big plays as well. I believe Lazard had 8 TD’s last year.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:37 am

I agree Murf. WR fever is a sign of illness. :-D
This roster is SO CLOSE to a dominating OL and defense.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:41 am

This is an absolutely stellar "take," Ken.

As an avid mock-drafter who alters my approach to my mocks to "see what happens," one of my mocks that made me sit back and say "Huh," was one where I emphasized defense and OL with the first five picks. I had to admit to myself, that the results may have been the best roster upgrade of any of my drafts, as it created a powerhouse defense and OL--the kind of team that is "always in the game." It also created a team that would be great with OR without Rodgers...and that seems pretty smart.

Oh, and I want to share that there is an interesting Bleacher Report 4 round mock that dropped today, for those who haven't seen it. It's my favorite one I've seen so far, because it COMPLETELY blows up the "Big Boards" that all of us mockers have been using, so it is FULL of surprises--yet none of the surprises are a surprise to ME, as it seems to follow my own opinions on a lot of players. Its title is "Fresh NFL Mock Draft" or "2022 NFL Mock Draft: B/R NFL Scouting Dept.'s Predictions Entering April" Prepare to get your preconceptions rocked...

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:10 am

A footnote on some of the BR results:

First of all, I HATE who they pick for the Packers--I like ED Jermaine Johnson at 22, but OT Bernard Raimann at 28 is 25 years old which is a no-no for BG, ILB Christian Harris at 53 is one of my least-favorite of the ILBs, WR Jalen Tolbert at 59 is fine, and CB Zyon McCollum at 92 is a RAS-reach for a guy who doesn't have great tape.

I'm more interested in when some of the other players go in their mock; for instance:
QBs Malik Willis at #2 and Desmond Ridder at #9, WR Khalil Shakir at #34 and WR Justyn Ross at #38 and WR Alec Pierce at #39 are all much higher than the typical Big Boards.
TEs Greg Dulcich at #67, Cade Otton #75, and Jelani Woods #80 all match my personal opinion. (and Jake Ferguson going before Isaih Likely is a head-bender!) etc.
:-D
Just a very interesting mock.

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dobber's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:23 am

Raimann would be a wasted pick in round 1 for this Packers team.

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BradHTX's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:38 am

Almost every pick in that draft is a waste, or something the Packers just are not going to do. A developmental OT and ILB in the mid rounds, fine. Not in 1 or 2.

I had assumed the 1-2 picks would be among WR, DT and OLB. With the signing of Reed, I’m no longer sure Gute grabs a DT that high. It actually wouldn’t shock me to see 2 WRs and a TE among the first four picks.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:53 am

I think that getting a starting ROT and ILB and a super back-up at edge are not "wastes," especially when you get Davante's replacement with a very good prospect in Tolbert.
I'm just not a fan of the guys they picked for the ROT and ILB.

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BradHTX's picture

April 04, 2022 at 09:04 am

Between Bakhtiari, Nijman and Jenkins (when he returns) they’ve got three starting caliber OTs. Sign another low-cost vet like Kelly and spend the premium picks on positions where they really can contribute immediately.

We have a limited window with Rodgers, more so than ever. A third edge rusher may be a “developmental” player to replace Preston in a couple years, but will play more than a fourth OT (or even third while Jenkins recovers). Even a developmental DT at whichever position (3 tech, 5, etc) will spell the vets. I just have a hard time believing a rookie OT, even a first rounder, will provide that much of an upgrade over Nijman, despite his being more an LT type than RT.

The first three rounds of this draft need to be for reloading the magazine for now, not the future.

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dobber's picture

April 04, 2022 at 09:24 am

You've hit almost exactly on what I'm thinking. You saved me a bunch of keystrokes, Brad.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 04, 2022 at 01:05 pm

Before the playoff game, I would have agreed with you about Kelly.

Having watched him vs the Niners, not so much now.

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Coldworld's picture

April 04, 2022 at 05:47 pm

There is a difference between regular season and playoffs though, as a back up, Kelly is a pretty good one. I would expect him to be 2nd RT to start, with Nijman being first replacement at LT. Once Jenkins is back he might be 4th T.

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murf7777's picture

April 04, 2022 at 01:06 pm

Brad, you make a good point, but if you move Jenkins than there is a hole at LG. Nijman is good, but can you do better? I wouldn't have a problem with an OT taken because of injury possibilities and making our interior OL even better.

EDGE is a hugh need as they need to be rotated and if you got a star player there it would keep pressure on the QB more consistently. Of course, if Gary or Smith get injured, we would be in trouble. You can't count on the backups we now have at Edge; they are below average. I will be surprised if one of the top two or at the very least top 4 picks isn't in the Edge/DL position. I would also love to see another playmaker with speed in the middle of the D.

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greengold's picture

April 04, 2022 at 02:37 pm

1 bazillion percent.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:43 am

Dug up that OL/Defense draft I did:
22 OL Kenyon Green (I especially like how this makes a great OL still 3 years from now)
28 DB Daxton Hill (maybe this defense's "missing piece")
53 DL Logan Hall (a great complementary piece and maybe Kenny Clark's successor--Kenny isn't getting younger)
59 LB/ED Leo Chenal (Could be a Z Smith difference maker who replaces Barnes)
92 TE Trey McBride (good blocker and receiver and long-term starter)
132 WR Bo Melton (a favorite of mine, 4.3 speed and productive)
140 WR Danny Gray (Bo Melton clone. This pair honestly fills the "WR need")
171 TE Jelani Woods (hard to pass up Cade Otton who I think is better, but with already picking McBride, Woods is a terrific complement)
228 OL Zach Tom (another talented, flexible OL)
249 P Matt Araiza (might be a Pro-Bowl punter)
258 C Nick Ford (Myers needs a back-up and I like Ford as a center or guard)

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murf7777's picture

April 04, 2022 at 01:13 pm

I really wonder how Leo Chenal will do as a starter in the NFL. He's built like a freight train, and I really like his tackling and busting thru the line, but not sure he is agile enough to go sideline to sideline or in coverage as an ILB and not sure he would fare well as a 3-4 OLB being 6'2 stocky with shorter arms than ideal. I'd pass on him there are better options IMO. Now that I've said that he probably is a future stat at ILB...:)

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greengold's picture

April 04, 2022 at 03:41 pm

Yeah, PEO, I’ve abandoned my early on take to jam all-in at the best WRs available with our first 4 picks.

Mostly the result of burying my head in this draft in a complete immersion over the last couple of weeks. I thought, “well, shit, I might as well see what’s really available everywhere so I have some confidence in what are good picks, and which aren’t.

Not that that matters. I just have a true passion for the personnel side of Brewers, Bucks & Packers.

Now that I’ve been in it… I’ve had my eyes opened. There’s some crazy good talent to be had. WR should be fine in GB very soon, as will other positions.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

April 04, 2022 at 09:22 pm

Inject this comment straight into my veins

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NickPerry's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:34 am

"If the lack of star receivers requires the Pack to focus more on running the ball and fortifying the defense, that will improve their chances in the playoffs."

NOW, if only Aaron Rodgers buys into this... Personally I think this team has a top 5 defense. Getting Alexander back, Stokes in year 2, AND Rasul Douglas gives the Packers the best starting CB group in the NFL IMO. My biggest concern is Alexanders shoulder and how that holds up. They've said Alexander will follow the opposing teams #1, but I think (shoulder willing) we see him in the slot too.

In 2020 Savage was at his best the last 9 weeks of the season when Pettine played him closer to the LOS. Last year we didn't see it as much. Could we see Savage in the slot more, and maybe Douglas dropping back as a safety? They also have Jean-Charles, last years 5th round pick who could be a slot candidate.

Just like TT, Gute has build a strong O-Line with a lot of depth. Meyers and Newman should/will be better, I love JRJ, and we also get Bakhtiari back week one. Personally I like Yosh Yijman at RT. After the first few snaps at SF last season in week 3, Yosh more than held his own. Gute will take a swing or two at the O-Line in this years draft, but hopefully not until at least the 3rd.

Now my favorite...Jones and Dillon. This IS the best one/two punch in the NFL. I think Dillon is a star just waiting to bust out. I'm more than happy with a dominate running game and a punch you up side of the head top 5 defense. This offense schemes players OPEN. I'll trust Gute to get Rodgers more than enough weapons before week one. I just don't know if I can trust Rodgers to trust the defense and running game when he NEEDS to.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:38 am

*applauds

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BradHTX's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:03 am

Y’all write like you believe Gute actually knows how to do his job and has been building a roster able to compete when Rodgers is no longer around.

Who are you, and what have you done with the Packers board comments I know?

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:12 am

Don't worry, the downvoters will show up in force soon enough. :-D

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greengold's picture

April 04, 2022 at 05:58 pm

You gotta scream it like you mean it though, Brad… like at the end of High Plains Drifter.

“Who are you??? Who ARE YOUUUUU???!!!!!!!!”

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dobber's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:17 am

I'm not going to litigate 2021. That's in the rearview.

But an offense needs to be able to threaten a defense. We're awfully used to seeing that done through 12's arm and either a deep group of really good--or a single elite--WR. 2022 is new territory for the modern era Packers. It's hard to envision a team that isn't necessarily built to play through its HOF QB and play just enough defense to allow it to outscore opponents.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 04, 2022 at 08:40 am

Just two years ago, SF beat us without hardly throwing. Last year, they beat us without scoring a TD on offense.

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Coldworld's picture

April 04, 2022 at 10:10 am

How much did they have tied up in their QB when they did so?

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Johnblood27's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:27 am

Great, now it's all about *TRUST* from NickPerry!

I'm all in on trusting you, buddy!

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greengold's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:03 pm

Why? Why did I just now realize Gutekunst may have been pumping Jaire as part of a trade prop?

If you think about it, super outta nowhere… super outta the ordinary… Weird AF.

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RCPackerFan's picture

April 04, 2022 at 06:46 am

I'm not worried about our WR's at this point in the year. They have 6 months before their first game. If our WR's look exactly like it does today. I will worry more about it. We clearly will be adding to the position this offseason. Whether its a veteran or during the draft. This position will look different in a couple of months then it does right now.

Adams will no doubt be missed. He is the best WR in the league. But lets not forget that a part of the reason why he is the best in the league is because of the guy throwing him the ball. Think of all the WR's that we have had that were great because of the guy throwing them the ball. And when they left here they weren't nearly as good. I do think Adams will put up good numbers still.
But what that means is more opportunities for the rest of the passing options. Not just WR's, but TE's, RB's will also get more opportunities. Don't be surprised if this offense is ran more through the RB's this coming year. As for WR's, more guys will get opportunities too. This is where Rodgers will need to have more trust in the scheme then the individual. He will have to trust that the players that are supposed to be open, will be open. Its hard to not look at the last game and seeing Rodgers locking into Adams on that 3rd down play when Lazard was wide open underneath. If he trusts the scheme and trusts the process, our offense will be much better.

As it sits right now we have Lazard as the likely number 1. I really like Lazard. He has really good hands and is a mismatch with his size. In this offense and with Rodgers he could easily be a 1000 yard WR. Now I don't think he is a number 1 WR in the league, but currently he is our best overall WR.
Cobb is a guy that should become a bigger part of our offense. The part that is still mysterious to me, is last year Rodgers pounded the table that he had to have Cobb back in GB. Then during games he barely looked his way. Is this because of Rodgers having his eyes locked in on Adams or was Cobb simply not getting open enough? Either way he is a veteran and should be a bigger part of our offense this year.
Rodgers is a guy that could take a big time step next year. I think he could be a bigger 'weapon' then WR. Meaning I think they will use him more on motion plays. Something they kind of got away from last year. Rodgers definitely is a guy to look for in taking a step.
Winfree I thought showed promise. He was not perfect and has a lot of growing to do. But the experience he got this season was huge for the future. He got a taste of being an NFL WR on gameday's. It would not surprise me if he took a step. Could be our 4th WR this year.

I'm hoping in the draft they come away with at least 2 WR's in the first few rounds. The part that stands out to me is hearing LaFleur talking about wanting more speed. I can't help but think of the Chiefs WR's. Who have had pure speed at WR. Guys running wide open because of scheme and the speed they have had. I would love if we could add that to our offense. There are plenty of guys with speed that could come in and contribute early in some sort of a role. I'm really looking forward to this draft!

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BradHTX's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:10 am

“Adams will no doubt be missed. He is the best WR in the league. But lets not forget that a part of the reason why he is the best in the league is because of the guy throwing him the ball.”

This is true, but it’s a yes/and not either/or. If Adams had the best stats in the league (too lazy to look it up) it’s because Rodgers fed him the ball so much. But Rodgers also locked onto him and fed him the ball because he’s so… damned… good.

We will miss him, but we may just be better without him. Irony. And with Carr instead of Rodgers, he may still post top 5 WR stats but I doubt he’ll be #1 again.

After bringing in the “Smith Bros” when we were weak at OLB, I’d like to see Gute land the “Chris Bros” in the draft — Olave and Watson. Routes and speed is what we need.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 04, 2022 at 11:36 am

can't confirm that this is true cuz I'm also too lazy to look up his stats, ""
“Please stop referring to Davante Adams as the league’s best receiver. He didn’t lead the league in receptions, yards, or TDs. He didn’t make big plays that help us win playoff games. He’s a good possession receiver and he had good chemistry with his QB.”..true or not he will surely be missed...could be a good thing if Rodgers spreads the ball around..

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murf7777's picture

April 04, 2022 at 01:16 pm

Think Johan Dotson....similar to KC type receivers. Plays bigger than his size, and with the quickness, speed and jumping abilities.

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dobber's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:13 am

It's a passing league, and the Packers are betting on #12. Do they need a "star" receiver? No, but they need receivers who will be able to uncover against high-end defenses, who can make the big catch when needed, and a QB who will deliver the ball to those guys. Let's see if BG comes up aces.

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Guam's picture

April 04, 2022 at 09:11 am

I'm less worried about Gute than I am about QB1. Whether the Packers bring in a veteran or great rookies, QB1 is going to have to learn to "trust" them quickly or the Packers won't have a passing attack.

Lately Rodgers has chosen not to show up for off-season camps and has played only minimally in the preseason, both of which will only make the "trust" issues greater. I don't know, but I am concerned how this will work out.

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Coldworld's picture

April 04, 2022 at 10:03 am

Just reading the contortions of logic and probability indulged in by many in recent threads ought to give pause to many. It just seems that anything that can cobble together a mirage of a coherent strategy and positive outcome, however contorted, will be latched onto. Ignore the weight of history of both league and individuals in favor of outliers and faith in order to get oneself to a happy place built on thin air.

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Swisch's picture

April 04, 2022 at 10:08 am

If the Packers continue to keep Rodgers at the helm, I hope and pray that he steps up to make the most of this upcoming season.
It's not going to be a perfect team for the Packers, but there's a lot of talent on offense and defense to contend for a Super Bowl.
It seems the most important piece of just about any team is the quarterback to not only require high standards, but to work with guys so as to encourage them and bring out their best.
With Rodgers in the last years of his career, it's a great opportunity for him to elevate his stature by being an example of coachability and agreeability that infuses the whole team with enthusiasm and camaraderie and a will to win.
May the captain at the helm steer the ship and relate with the crew in ways the put the wind in the sails of the Packers.

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Guam's picture

April 04, 2022 at 04:18 pm

You are a true optimist Swisch. I am afraid I belong more in ColdWorld's camp of cynics. I doubt this is all going to work out well. I will happily munch a full portion of crow if it does come together, but I just can't convince myself that will happen.

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Swisch's picture

April 04, 2022 at 08:01 pm

I've been actually quite cynical myself, Guam, though in this case I was trying a different tack (another sailing reference that I hope works with my above analogy).
It seems to me the Packers are doomed with such an arrogant quarterback, but I'm trying find a way out.
One way is to trade Rodgers after June 1st, if that's really possible and plausible; another way is for Rodgers to have an epiphany of coachability and agreeability in which he gets out of himself and reaches out to others.
Wouldn't it be great if Rodgers took up the challenge of personal growth in relating to his coaches and teammates with the Packers, as well as the fans?
How much happier we all would be!
Not likely to happen, I agree, but I hope and pray . . .

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 04, 2022 at 07:58 am

I really think the #1 WR on the Packers Big Board is Jameson Williams...but that's a hard pick to make when he might not play this entire year, yet if he didn't blow out the knee, he'd be gone well before #22. It is going to be interesting.

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PatrickGB's picture

April 04, 2022 at 08:59 am

Perhaps, with more opportunities, the WR’s on the roster will elevate their play. Maybe there are more INT’s and dropped balls but as long as the rest of the team does well then it might not matter. Also, Matt will probably tweak the offense to fit the skills of the players we have.

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PatrickGB's picture

April 04, 2022 at 10:23 am

NE has picked up Parker. So the might release this guy. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/n%27keal-harry/32004841-5265-4593-d716-d97...
I am unsure if he is worth much. He is kinda a Lazard clone but he was a high draft pick and might be affordable.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 04, 2022 at 01:18 pm

There are so many outstanding prospects to be drafted at WR and T in the first two rounds, I would be shocked if Gutey did not draft either until the 3rd or later.

The Packers fame besides top QB play, has been branded by stellar OL play. When you have a top QB, I would be drafting OL every year during the first two days of the draft.

And on the OL, quality depth is a must because your starters usually play every O snap...until an injury keeps them off the field. Next man up has to be a man who would start for many other NFL teams. Nijman and Runyan, for example.

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croatpackfan's picture

April 05, 2022 at 04:40 am

"It would help if Matt LaFleur sticks with the run a little more consistently than he has in the past. This year he may have little choice."

Ken, it is not on who call plays, it is on who executing called play. Packers Choker Diva is responsible for many choices to go through air, rather than go on ground, by refusing to play what is called.

You can preach whatever you want, but there is Divine Person who will do whatever he want, otherwise he will be at least "underestimated"...

Also, I believe that you are right. There is no need for top players on every position. You need at least average groups on some position on O and on D, while need few top 10 players on both side of the ball to win SB. But if you have choker, you are doomed...

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