They don't necessarily have to trade all the way back to the 2nd. They could trade a few slots back in the 1st and gain a pick. They could potentially use that gained pick to move higher in the 2nd with one of their 2nd picks. Lots of options. Expect the unexpected with Gute.

I want DeJean.
Trading Back might bring me 33 and 101.
But even if your guy is in the top 50.
You Stay put.
Trading Down = Rebuilding.
Trading up = A priority
Staying put = Reloading

I heard a draftnik on the radio a couple weeks ago say he talked to a scout that said his team had 18 players with 1st round grade plus the QBs. Going off of that the Packers would need a few teams to reach to get a 1st round talent.

Barton hasn't tested yet so it remains to be seen if he hits the Packer athletic thresholds but to me he's not worth a 1st round pick. His arm length is a big negative for a T and of he can't play outside do the Packers draft him in the 1st to play G or C? Doesn't seem likely.

Gutey was at Alabama's pro day where Kool Aid tested pretty well. 4.47 40 and has shown fluid hips so he probably would be fine playing press and flipping his hips to run. I could see them being interested in him at 25.

Doesn't it kind of depend what happens in the first round before #25? Just don't reach in the first round because of need.

Also, past performance is no guarantee of future results, especially when comes to the selections of previous regimes.

All depends on how the draft progresses, who’s available, who has GB targeted, etc. The thing I like is their slew of early picks gives them the ammo to slide around pretty much however they want.

John Hadl! The Lawrence Welk draft "and a 1, ana 2, ana 1, 2, 3!"

I always expect the unexpected. Every draft I recall when the Packers drafted Cobb. Before the draft I liked Cobb and thought he was going to be special. I thought how I would like to see him in a Packer uniform. But we did not need a WR so I figured that would not happen. I was ecstatic when the Packers picked him.

Another player I wanted the Packers to pick was Whitney Mercilus and they did not and I had to wait 10 years to see him play for the Packers and then that was cut short. I guess there is a chance I might see Logan Wilson play for Green Bay.

With the most picks in the draft I don’t think there’s a chance in hell BG trades down. The success of this team goes through the OL. I expect BG to trade up and if it doesn’t happen reports will emerge that he tried.

Mark it, dude.

I like Stockholders comment about wanting DeJean who seems to have plenty of talent and could fill needs at both corner back and safety. I have always been a little leary about trading back ever since we bypassed TJ watt and Devin James and wound up with Kevin King after one of those trade backs. I remember watching both of those drafts and hoping no one would pick them only to have our draft team pass them by. I realize they are the experts and are on target most of the time, but losing those two players were a real disappointment to this Monday Morning quarterback, er general manager.

Not that I want this to happen but if the Packers decided to do a Mike Ditka they would only get to pick 4.

On the subject of the true number of "first round talents" Let's recall that around 50% of the first round picks are busts.

There is no formula for success in the draft, just number of bites at the apple and positioning yourself (through trades) to bite the apple where the wormhole is NOT!

According to some reports, this year the new Name\Image\Likeness (NIL) college football rules have caused some underclassmen to stay in college (who would otherwise declare for the draft and be those day 3 gems),

The effect of this is, reportedly, is the weakening of the overall day 3 group.

As you can see Ken, one could easily miss the big picture by consternating on fringe variables.

The only way that I'd consider trading down over BPA is if the trade offered is far and away better than my evaluation of the player.

Assuming they like somebody, moving down out of the 1st round is not worth just a 4th round pick. I'd be more open to jumping ahead of a couple of teams for a position we really need filled.

The Packers might want to trade down but they need a trade partner. Logically, if no one excites you at 25 then trading down is possible as long as it nets another 2 or 3. The other part of it is, is there a player at 25 that excites some other team?
One of the things about trading out of the first round contracts are for four years with an option for a fifth. If drafted in the second round the contract is different(and lower).

The risk is the player you might want might be gone but if that player is gone, trading back is a good idea.

Think of having three two's and two thirds. That means there's a good chance of filling some holes.

Ken,

Ask Gute (or his asst Me) that very question when we (da Pack) are on the clock.

Thanks in advance,

Pantz

The Packers already have 11 picks in the draft, why trade down and get more picks? How many are going to make the final roster anyway?

Of course the real answer to "should they trade down ?" is it depends on who is there at #25 and how much the Packers like one or more prospects available. In general though, I'd say 'YES'.

I've mentioned here before about the great value in this draft in round two (and also I believe, in round three). Furthermore, most of the positions the Packers need to upgrade are not premium pick positions like LT, WR, QB, CB. I mean they could use another OT or CB, but the positions of most need are ILB, S, IOL, RB, slot corner, and very good ones can be found in rounds 2-3.

If the Packers traded back into the top of round two. For example they could swap #25 and their #91 for Houston's #42 and #49 and #123 That gives the Packers FOUR picks in round 2 (41, 42, 58, 59) and they still have pick 88 in round 3 and two 4th rounders.

Depending on what happens prior to the Packers turn to select at #25 I would say yes to a trade down assuming the Packers find a willing trade partner. There is no guarantee that it will happen even if Gute wants to trade down. I would prefer to get more value in the 2nd round then take a reach in the 1st.

Bottom line trade down if the value is not there at the 25th pick. Thanks, Since '61

No. In this shallow draft trade all those late picks for whatever you can get.

I was just thinking about Gutey's track record of trading up vs trading down. He traded up for Darnell Savage, Oren Burks, and Amari Rodgers, all of whom were busts. He also traded up for Jaire but only after trading down first and receiving a 1st from the Saints. I can only recall that in this past draft he traded down twice which netted us a huge haul of Jaden Reed, D. Wicks, and Karl Brooks.
Although a small sample size trading back has worked out much better than trading up. I am also hoping that he trades some later round picks for 2025 draft capitol since we won't be getting comp picks plus the draft will be in Green Bay. I want the chance to cheer as much as possible our picks in person.

Obviously the correct answer is it depends on what is there at 25. We do have 5 picks in the top 91 picks. We have the quantity. We do NOT want to sacrifice quality. If the season starts tomorrow we have a major hole at ILB. Also if a premier OT or a top 10 player suddenly falls it would be worth considering. So we have to wait and see. If by chance Cooper and Wilson are both gone at ILB It would then make sense to trade down and then address ILB with the next tier of two or three ILBs. Other than ILB we have the luxury of simply taking the best available at any position other than WR or QB for our top five picks. I am leery about trading down. Did we forget we already have a very good playoff team?

Fully expect Gute to go up and get whoever he's targeting such as a top three CB or OT or Edge (sorry not DeJean). If that fails I expect him to trade down and pick up some picks for next year. Don't expect us to take a RB before round 5, they just aren't that good this year. He also won't use a pick on safety until the 3rd because they aren't that good either. He'll take several swings at LB on day three but none will be the top guys we're reading about. Expect a minimum of 4 offensive lineman and possibly a surprise DT. In other words, a typical Packer draft full of surprises and frustration as we watch our favorite draft crushes slide on bye!

Let me apologize in advance. Long winded and yes, I do expect down votes.
Trading down depends on the board, needs, and who they think may swoop in and take someone they like. I've compiled a list of players mentioned here of big board ranking averages from 5 sites.
Cooper DeJean - range from 8 to 26 - avg DP - 19
Troy Fautaunu - 13 to 34 - avg DP - 23
Tyler Nubin - 25 to 49 - avg DP - 38
Graham Barton - 25 to 47 - avg DP - 31
Edge Cooper - 44 to 62 - avg DP - 50
Zack Fraizer - 31 to 62 - avg DP - 47
Payton Wilson - 26 to 60 - avg DP - 47
Junior Colson - 52 to 87 - avg DP - 67
Cooper Beebe - 47 to 73 - avg DP - 61
Kingsley Suamataia - 43 to 61 - avg DP - 50
Zack Zinter - 95 to 157 - avg DP - 113
Jordan Morgan - 33 to 41 - avg DP - 36
Kris Jenkins - 48 to 60 - avg DP - 54
Darius Robinson - 32 - 44 - avg DP - 39
Kool Aid McKinstry - 23 to 34 - avg DP - 27
TJ Tampa - 35 - 58 - avg DP - 48

Personally, with all the picks at Gutey's disposal, I would expect him to move all over. Up as well as back.
For the hell of it, I did 2 mock drafts at Mock draft database. No trades. See below for your amusement. Players fell differently each time.

1) #25 - J.C. Latham OT - Cooper Dejean CB/S
2) #41 - Payton Wilson LB - Jackson Powers Johnson C
2) #58 - Tyler Nubin S - Edge Cooper LB
3) #88 - Jaylen Wright RB - Javon Bullard S
3) #91 - Marshawn Kneeland DE - Javon Foster OT
4) #125 - Elijah Jones CB - Zack Zinter G
5) #169 - Tanor Bortolini G - Jarrion Jones CB
6) #202 - Gabe Hall DT - Tyrone Tracy RB
6) #219 - Garrett Greenfield OT - Kristian Boyd DT
7) #245 - Kenny Logan S - Nathaniel Watson LB
7) #255 - Dwight McGlothern CB - Josh Karty K

Sorry for the jumbled up mess,

That is actually very informative gsd3. Thanks for the extra work. I think this year's draft for the Packers is unique because the position groups of players at positions we need the most fall very favorably in the range of our first 5 picks.

GB could easily stay where they are at and pick #25 Best OL, #41 Best Safety, #58 Best LB (4 of the top 5 should be available), #88 a Top 10 CB, and a TOP 5 RB @ #91. Or even with a trade back from #25 or #91 we still could cash in on those much-needed position groups and add another OL, Edge, or whatever. A crapload of upgrade/good players @ PON will be sitting there in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds. This draft is going to be a gamechanger that propels the Packers to Super Bowl contender for longer than a couple years.

GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KC had been rumored to be in love with Jordan Morgan OT and a possible trade up team to secure him. Add CB to their biggest needs after they traded L'Jarius Sneed yesterday. If a Top 5 CB falls to #25, they could be forced to give up their 1st and 2nd round picks for the honor of picking one. Let's fleece someone similar to the Saints trade.

In keeping with the question. I did 2 mocks on PFF. One without trading at all, the other with trading if it appeared to make sense. Passed on many more offers than accepted. Both graded out as A-. For your amusement.
No trades:
25) Troy Fautauna OL
41) Zach Fraizer C
58) Junior Colson LB
88) Jaylen Wright RB
91) Cole Bishop S
126) Cooper Beebe G
169) Tyrone Tracy RB
202) Dwight McGlothern CB
219) Joshua Cephus WR
245) Dallas Gant LB
255) Kenny Logan S

Trades:
41) Zach Fraizer C
50) Tyler Nubin S
58) Kris Jenkins DT
66) Junior Colson LB
91) Brandon Dorlus DL
96) Jarrian Jones CB
126) Braelon Allen RB
128) Christian Jones OT
133) Chau Wade Smith CB
148) Javon Foster OT
169) Tyrone Tracy RB
202) Solomon Byrd Edge
219) Tanor Bortolini G
220) Tyler Owens S
223) Nataniel Watson LB
229) Joshua Karty K
2025 Draft picks - Rd 4 (2) Rd 6 (1) Rd 7 (2)