Packers vs. Panthers: Game Balls & Lame Calls

Game balls and lame calls are handed out after the Packers 37-29 loss to the Carolina Panthers on Sunday

The Green Bay Packers are officially facing adversity.  That they're 6-2 makes that an interesting fact.  Green Bay has now lost two-straight games, both of which came on the road against teams who were unbeaten coming into the game.  The Carolina Panthers handed the Pack a 37-29 loss and searching for more answers as to how to get back on track.  Unfortunately, the Packers weren't able to get a big, quality win on the road against a good team, but the schedule appears to be on their side next week as they return home to host the Detroit Lions.

This game started out as poorly and looked to be a repeat of last week.  A late third and fourth quarter charge helped the Packers make the final score look respectable and they had a legitimate chance to tie the game in regulation, despite having dug a huge hole to start the game.  The surge showed some fight in this dog and despite the loss, Green Bay should be able to feed on it as they move forward and stay in the chase to win the NFC.

On to the best and worst from today's game!

Game Balls

Aaron Rodgers

Some will say we're always looking for an excuse to put Rodgers in this category, but hear me out.  I liked Rodgers' resolve today.  After the Cobb touchdown pass/run, Rodgers turned to his sideline, fist pumped and showed some life.  We saw no such thing last week against the Denver Broncos.  For those who were clamoring for Rodgers to take some more chances, he did in this game.  He threw into tighter coverage and while it nearly led to two interceptions (the first was dropped by the defensive back), it looks like he's willing to start letting his receivers try and make some plays.  He faced a ton of pressure on the interception but was at least able to get a throw off.  Rodgers missed on a few occasions, but those types of plays will come in handy against good defenses.  His accuracy hasn't been as good this season as what we're used to seeing, but he's still putting the ball in better spots than not.

Expect to see a very motivated Rodgers who will put up one of his best games of the season next week.

James Starks

Much like in the game against the San Diego Chargers, Starks was the Packers' top back.  He got the start and added in a nice catch and run for a 30-yard touchdown.  Starks ran hard and also showed some emotion.  I realize that emotion has never scored a point in a NFL game, but this team needs guys who are still trying and fighting.  Starks looks as good as he has since 2010 and he should continue to be the Packers featured back.  Starks also threw a big block that saved Rodgers from losing his head and this type of intangible can't be overlooked.  

Damarious Randall

Randall had his struggles today, including a poorly played deep ball in which he had no choice but to interfere with Panthers tight end Greg Olsen.  It's the type of play Randall has been making all season long but he was beaten on this particular snap.  However, once again, Randall came through with a big interception of Cam Newton late in the fourth quarter to give the Packers the ball and a chance to tie the game.  Randall has such good ball skills and continues to be more of an asset than not.  With Sam Shields out, Randall became the Packers' best cornerback on the field today.  That's pretty decent praise for a rookie and considering that Casey Hayward, who was once a top defensive back for this defense, was also out there.

Randall Cobb

Cobb continues to fight double teams and heavy coverage and made a huge play with a 53-yard catch and run for a score along with a few key catches late in the game.  He had just four catches in 11 targets, further proof that Cobb is blanketed most all the time.  The one time Cobb managed to get wide open, Rodgers was under heavy pressure and wasn't able to see or get the ball to him on the Packers' fourth down try near the goal line.  

Davante Adams

Adams had seven catches for 90 yards and a 40-yard reception.  This is the type of day we've been waiting for from Adams all season long.  Hopefully it's a sign that he's healthy and will continue to provide some good production for the Packers offense.  I talk about confidence and how important it is in football.  A game like this could become a nice turning point for Adams this season.  

Lame Calls

Corey Linsley

Earth to Corey!  There was a football game in Carolina that your team played in.  Did you know that?  Possibly Linsley's worst game as a pro.  If he wasn't snapping the ball at Rodgers' ankles, he was asleep at the wheel, unaware that there's this thing called a play clock.  One delay of game penalty and nearly another before Rodgers had to call timeout when the Packers really needed them all to make a late run.  After a stellar rookie season, Linsley has been just average this season.  No reason he can't turn it around and use this game as motivation in moving forward, but he's best to try and block today out.  

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

I'm not even addressing the incident between Clinton-Dix, Julius Peppers and B.J. Raji on the sideline.  That's just guys being frustrated and at least they care enough to expect more out of each other.  This is about Clinton-Dix just looking lost most of the day.  He failed to provide help over the top on a few of the Panthers' long pass plays and, of course, those ended up being costly and leading to scores for the bad guys.  Ha Ha has been on the other side of this piece in a few past weeks but today, he hurt his team.  A performance like this later in the season will only help end the Packers' season.

Eddie Lacy

No more excuses.  Lacy officially needs to be sat until he can prove his way back on the field.  After two seasons in which Lacy played well and was a strength of this offense, he finally faces some adversity.  He had another lost fumble today after being so sure-handed in his first two seasons.  His ankle may still be bothering him, but he isn't running well at all.  It's the same offensive line that allowed James Starks to have a respectable day.  They're two different runners, but Lacy just isn't right and I don't trust him with the ball right now and the Packers are likely growing weary.  That's not a good thing for #27.

Dom Capers/Mike McCarthy

Capers is the scapegoat every time this defense struggles, but today, he deserves blame.  The Packers went without a sack for the second-straight game and Capers didn't dial up any legitimate pressure until the fourth quarter.  I understand needing to put your personnel, who aren't known for their speed, in position to succeed against Cam Newton and the read option, but you have to take some chances.  Clay Matthews got into the backfield nearly ahead of the ball on a snap late in the game when he came on a blitz.  Where was that earlier when Cam was sitting way too cozy in the pocket?  Capers notoriously takes way too long to make adjustments in-game and creates the proverbial fire drill late in close games.  Carolina had three pass plays of over 40 yards and those types of plays don't happen on three-step drops.  The Packers and Capers need to find ways to get to the quarterback and make life miserable for them. 

McCarthy makes this list because he's supposedly given up the play calling so he can be more involved in all aspects of the game.  The lack of adjustments and the very slow start a second week in a row falls squarely on McCarthy and his staff.  It starts at the top and up there, you'll find MM.  This team is playing way too soft and while the players are who they are, they need to find the "nasty" gear sooner than later.  Go find it, Mike!

 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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marpag1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:10 am

Linsley was bad, but give a lame (kick in the) balls to the whole O-line. In my opinion they have been the main problem throughout. They are waaaaaaaay underachieving, and I have absolutely no idea why.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:45 am

That is what I was saying already 3 weeks in the row. OL is playing like they never played together!

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zoellner25's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:46 am

agreed. something is wrong. of all our units, this one should be the best and most consistent. not this year.

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murph27's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:52 am

Agreed. When Rodgers got hurt last year, they stepped up and gave him unbelieveable amounts of time. There were times when he would get 7-8 seconds in the pocket. Same guys, but the protection is a whole different story now.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:15 am

" The lack of adjustments and the very slow start a second week in a row falls squarely on McCarthy and his staff."

Absolutely, seeing them roll out the same plan on offense that failed miserably a week ago is beyond frustrating. I can not possibly understand how they thought it would work. Did they think the Panthers wouldn't watch that tape.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:16 am

Especially with all the reports before the game how they completely reworked their offense after Denver.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:53 am

I saw on twitter yesterday from Ian Rapoport. 'last week was a wakeup for #Packers passing offense & they've retooled things: Expect fewer vertical routes, more quick hitters and crossers.'

Hearing that got me excited, and expecting to see a big change. While I did see a few different things yesterday, I saw a lot of the same stuff... Especially from the 2nd quarter - 4th quarter.

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sugarbair's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:29 am

I agree, That coaching staff has to be called out.

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porupack's picture

November 09, 2015 at 02:01 pm

Totally agree jeremyjjbrown; total whiff by coaches.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:15 am

Not only were Linsley's snaps low, but they seemed awfully slow. No idea what's up with that.

And Lacy needs to be inactive for a couple weeks. Get him healthy. Get him in shape. Whatever is wrong with him, he's not helping the team right now.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:24 am

'And Lacy needs to be inactive for a couple weeks. Get him healthy. Get him in shape. Whatever is wrong with him, he's not helping the team right now'

YES... I thought the exact same thing. Sit him down and get it figured out. We will still need him when the weather turns bad. He is the physical RB we need when winter hits. But to get him right, set him down.

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Mojo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 02:54 pm

Yeah the snap thing was weird. Just about every snap was at Rodgers knees. At first I thought that might have been Rodgers preference, but who would want them that low?

I know Randall got the INT at the end, but I thought he generally sucked throughout the game. Not only did he get burned, but he got away with a couple other blatant plays where they should have called PI. He doesn't belong in the "Game balls" category.

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mrtundra's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:16 am

Starks can make a quick cut and be gone. Lacy runs into his blockers on the O Line. The O Line doesn't seem to consistently make holes for Lacy to run through, so he gets stacked up behind the linemen for next to no gain. I like to see Lacy in the screen pass play where he can build up a little momentum before he hits the defenders. Trouble is, Clements only began to call screen plays in the 4th quarter and by that time Lacy was out of the game.

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ollie418's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:23 am

Game Balls:

No Packer gets one. To a man bad performances all the way.

Lame Calls:

Dom Capers for his horrible defense all day. A Gold Star Lame Call for the 3 man rush on 3rd and 16 after the Packers went ahead 7-3. That, believe it or not, was THE game changer.

Aaron Rodgers for wasting two time outs in the second half because the play clock was running out. When that second one, on the last drive, was called I told my friend that will come back to haunt them. Of, course it did. When are the players, and coaches, going to realize that time outs, especially in the second half, are precious?

Please fire Capers next year. The Packers D will never be any good with him.

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zoellner25's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:28 am

I'm just disappointed that it takes our offense soooooo long to go no-huddle with crossing routes, screens, and slants. They work! You are right, they don't adjust and then finally react when trailing by 14+. Start that out sooner MM!

Defensively, can we call Patrick Willis?

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ollie418's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:34 am

What happened to the hurry up offense? Need it against good defenses the last two weeks. They are slow and lethargic.

Rodgers is under center more also. What is that about? Heck last year when it was 3rd or 4th and short I would scream that they were in shotgun and there was no threat of a run.

It looks like the whole team, including the coaches, are asleep.

Time to wake up please!

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Razor's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:34 am

I'm feeling the same frustration this year as I did last year and the year before. I thought this team was better than they appear to be. Waiting for the coaches and players to turn it around seems like something lesser teams do. I understand having a plan and sticking to it but making adjustments seems like a reasonable thing to do.

During the first six games, I started to wonder why almost every pass play turned out to be scramble by Rodgers. But I ignored it because they were winning. Now I realize that the plays aren't working and the scramble is a necessity. Hmmm.

Two main issues I have with this team. Coaches slow to change. Not sure about the team's intensity.

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ollie418's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:36 am

Right on Razor!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:36 am

Game Balls.

I get your point on Rodgers. What I like about it is that he seemed to come awake in the 4th quarter.

On offense, to me Adams, Cobb both deserve game balls. That catch by Jones on the 4th down play deserves a lot of credit.

On Defense I would say Randall's interception gave them life when the odds were stacked against them. Jake Ryan came in a played pretty well. I hope to see him start next week.

Lame Calls.

I don't want to just put it on Linsley. He wasn't good, but was anyone on the OL? They whole OL consistently allowed pressured and just haven't played well.
That being said that holding penalty called against Bakhtiari was brutal. That used to be called a pancake block.

The coaches. I keep bringing it up, but play calling and game management are horrendous. They came out on fire on offense. Running play action bootlegs, and hit Ripkowski for a huge gain. Its a play that seemed like it would work all game with the over aggressive defense. So we saw another play like that when?
It took until the 4th quarter to run a screen pass? Why?

Also, the offense seems to be breaking huddle around 8-9 seconds way to much and are forced to hurry up. The one time they broke huddle at 8 seconds they had to burn a timeout. They need to do a better job of getting guys in and out. They look lost and confused. That is on the coaches.

On defense I just would like to know why we don't see Elliott anymore rushing the QB? Also why wasn't Gunter moved in ahead of Goodson? What were they afraid he would get a holding penalty and get burned by 10 yards on the same play to give up a TD? Well too late Goodson already did that.

Coaches have to get better, or else a change needs to happen.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 09, 2015 at 03:01 pm

All true. Why do we always go away from a play that worked . Why.? Drives me crazy

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 05:49 pm

We don't know why and they won't tell us why. Instead they give answers like they're running for public office. This is were the small market ass kissing reporters don't ask the tough questions in a press con.

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Oppy's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:49 pm

You could bring in tough, big city ass-kicking reporters, and the Packers wouldn't give you any more satisfactory answers.

Quite frankly, they shouldn't feel the need to answer those questions, anyways. Yeah, I know that's an unpopular sentiment, but answering questions the media poses doesn't help win games, and sometimes, it can actually help your opponents.

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mrj007's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:40 pm

I would run a screen every play until it was stopped. I counted 4 and all went for big gains. If you run a play and it works, why ever stop? And why is GB like the only team not to take advantage of pick routes (Except the LAST play off the game - which isn't even close if Carolina punches in a TD ones of 3 FG).

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sub_zero_pr's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:50 am

Yes, Fire Capers! It is unacceptable that of the Packers first 7 offensive drives we got three 3&outs, a FUMBLE after 2 plays, a TD drive and a drive that ended the first half.

Our Defense works when the offense gets the early lead. It has always been like that. They feed on turnovers of other teams trying to keep up with Rodgers and Co. If the O does not deliver, it is highly improbable that the Defense can win us a game, especially against good teams.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:59 am

"...especially against good teams."

And without their top two CBs...?

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Grandfathered's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:02 pm

Can't count on offense getting the early lead. Good teams need an all game defense. I was at the game and thought that Perry and Peppers were trying to play with spark. Secondary looked lackluster.

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MarkinMadison's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:52 am

So I was scouting my deer spot and shooting some targets yesterday. Tuned into the radio quite a bit while driving. From the number of comments on "Gut Reactions" sounds like I spent my day wisely. I'm a lot less frustrated than everyone else.

Randall is the best D-back on the field? Okay, this is a rebuilding year for the secondary. Safety takes 3-4 years to develop, so I love Peppers getting after HaHa, but it doesn't mean the rest of us should. Shields is out injured. Tramon is suffering in Cleveland. Yeah. DQ is the future, but the future is not now. Maybe by playoff time DQ and HaHa will be better and Shields will be healthier, and they'll be ready to roll. They need Shields though, he is the only one with elite speed. Cross your fingers.

I heard Jeff Janis get some snaps. Lets check the box score and see how that worked out. Yeah, not so much. Still 4 TDs, 1 INT and 369 yards from Rodgers and the WRs + Starks is not a bad day. Just not enough.

The next four weeks are Lions, Vikings, Bears, and Lions. Can you say 10-2? I can. Can you see Cam Newton having a season where he stays healthy all the way through the playoffs? I can see it, but I wouldn't bet on it. Do you believe in a Cardinals team that lost to the Rams and the Steelers? I don't. The NFC is still wide open folks. Home field is not out of the question.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:05 am

I don't miss Packers games for anything (if I can help it). But yesterdays game definitely would have been one to miss. The only good part about the game was seeing them trying to make a big come back. Unfortunately they dug themselves in to big of a hole that they couldn't.

Randall made rookie mistakes but at the end of the game made a huge play that the defense needed. Got the Offense the ball inside the 30 yard line.

I think the defense would have fared better yesterday if they had Shields and Rollins. But are a lot better then Goodson.

I saw Janis got snaps. The 2 snaps I saw him in on, he stayed in to block. Thats really putting good use to a WR. Having him stay back and block, while they spread Perillo out wide.

They could very well be 10-2 in the next 4 games. They could go 4-0 or also could go 3-1. Hopefully in this next stretch they get things figured out and win their division games.

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Archie's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:25 am

You seem to be overlooking the Vikings. These are not the Vikings of old. Their defense is for real. AP = AD. Teddy is getting the job done. New WR is the real deal. They look like an up and coming SEA/CAR. It's not out of the question for the Vikes to snatch two wins vs GB. Just saying.

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 05:55 pm

We all knew the Vikes would be a good team this year. Maybe the Packers got used to being really good and expect to win just by showing up. I don't see the hunger like the young and hungry teams. They've been humbled, time to swallow hard and start playing like they can.

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MarkinMadison's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:22 pm

Not buying the Vikings yet. Not buying into Teddy B.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:56 am

I wouldn't put Randall in the game ball category. A coach also needs to tell him the rules on pass interference. I think every replay of Randall shown on TV either was or arguably could have been flagged. A late interception after getting torched all game does not equate to a game ball. I like Randall, and realize that I have to accept some rookie mistakes to get some ball skills.

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marpag1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:17 am

Totally agree. He had a bad game, and getting an interception at the end doesn't make up for that.

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zoellner25's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:08 am

That PI on his coverage on Olsen was not his fault. He was inside, had great coverage, and the ball was under thrown by at least 5 yards, Olsen stopped, Randall ran into him. He's far better than Casey Hayward. But he's a rookie. Remember Sam Shields as a rookie?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:18 am

I thought it looked like Olsen was trying to call for a PI penalty before he even contacted Randall.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:22 am

Either Larivee or Max credited Olsen with veteran savvy in creating the PI by slowing down. Randall has to look for the ball and be trying to make a play on it before he can run into Olsen. Some have suggested on another site that Randall did make a play on the ball. I don't remember seeing him do that, but I didn't argue since I'd need a replay to be sure.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:58 am

it was a very savvy move. I thought it was a good play by him. I would like to see our WR's do that more.
That is something that Randall will learn on.

At the last second he tried to turn his head, but it wasn't until after he was contacted by Olsen. It was a penalty.

But a great move by Olsen.

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WinUSA's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:54 am

It was a discussion in our group... Randall definitely had his head turned and had as much right to the ball as the receiver...should have been a non call.

I felt that the refs were very favorable to the Panthers all game long.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 10, 2015 at 12:49 am

Very common for the fans to think their team got jobbed by the refs. Go to catscratchreader and there is a long thread by Carolina fans about how their team gets no respect from refs to conspiracy theories about how the NFL doesn't want Carolina to win. Frankly, a few calls on GB were bad, but overall we have nothing to complain about. The Randall INT easily could have been ruled INC as he may have been bobbling the ball. Randall could have had at least 3 PI flags.

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marpag1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:11 am

I agree with everything you're saying, Zoellner, except for the part that it was not his fault. You don't have a license to interfere if the ball is underthrown, and he did run into Olsen without really turning and looking for the ball. And whether he got beat by veteran savvy (which is what happened, I think) or by raw athletic ability, he still got beat.

On a lot of other plays, it looked like Randall was trying to ride the receiver like a pogo stick. The positive is that on most plays he was *right there* just like you say ... but the negative is that he's got to learn not to drape himself all over the guy and to play the ball in the air.

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Mojo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 03:00 pm

Agree TGR. He was lucky not to have gotten a couple more PI calls. Goes to show how bad we were when his performance is included as a positive.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:00 am

The sideline reporter said it best. NO EMOTION!!!! It was only after the players started fighting among themselves that any emotion was created and that is when they actually started to play. Let's call John Elway in for a consultation on how to reorganize the coaching staff and management. John Fox was one game away from the Super Bowl and he got booted. Seems to me it worked in Denver and is long overdue in Green Bay. Mark Murphy and the coaches are all friends (even vacation together) and cannot be objective in their decision making. In addition to that, they all have one common characteristic. STUBBORN. We need some new blood before all of Aaron Rodgers' years are wasted in mediocrity.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:06 am

"... Seems to me it worked in Denver"

Based on what? It's week 8.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:27 am

Watch and see. I'm so not a Denver fan but I like that they are willing to try something different when the same old shit isn't working. I am so tired of MM and his same old "we will get better from this" but we never do. He has to have some fire in him if he expects to fire up his team. Whining really isn't a very effective way to motivate young players.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:33 am

"Watch and see."

Yea, that was kind of my point.

You declared the move a success in week 8. If they get bounced in the first round of the playoffs, will it still have been a good move?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:59 am

What to see? How they lost from horrible Colts? They are not unbeaten any more. Do you know why? Because Broncos made same mistake as Packers going to the Denver. They had full mouth of Peyton and Denver D, but really they underestimate Broncos. They did not learned nothing, and came with the same attitude to Carolina. They lost the both games... Broncos was tellling stories how good Colts are. But thery underestimate them and they lost! So, do not jump the conclusion!

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:10 am

You're missing my point, guys. I was just using Elway's willingness to do something different as an example. I don't really care what happens in Denver. Just tired of Green Bay's unwillingness to make changes in a outdated and inflexible coaching staff. Come on!!! Dom Capers is still here after that Seattle game and McCarthy has made it perfectly clear he is here to stay. I'm surprised Rodgers doesn't ask to be traded. We are wasting him.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:15 am

You said firing Fox worked out well...all I'm saying is that it's incredibly premature to declare that bold move a success. Maybe it will be, maybe it won't be. But we sure don't know for sure in week 8.

The most successful franchises have one thing in common - continuity. Look at the Pats or Steelers or Packers. Some of the best teams of the last decade+ and they all have stable coaching situations. I think that's more than a coincidence.

And what about the Seattle meltdown was Capers' fault?!

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:44 am

Yup! Let's keep continuity in our coaching staff and we will keep continuity in continuously falling just short. Capers does just enough to keep his job. I believe it was the defense that melted down in the Seattle game. Guess Dom went home early. The Patriots and Steelers have coaches who know how to motivate and change things up when necessary. I think you need to have a little more personality to be able to coach these young guys. The sideline disruption yesterday was our guys begging for some fire in the game and it worked. They started to play. But I doubt if Capers noticed that. He was probably napping. Don't tell me what it takes to motivate young people. That's what I do for a living.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:05 am

" I think you need to have a little more personality to be able to coach these young guys."

Lol. I know when I think of Bill Belichick I think of his infectious personality.

Meanwhile, Rex Ryan has "personality" dripping out of every orifice in his body...and look at all his rings.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:42 am

Don't like Belichick either but he sure gets the job done year after year. I didn't say they had to have a good personality, just a personality. Milk toast on the sideline sure isn't working for us. I'm done arguing about the coaching staff. We'll keep them all anyhow so what's the point?

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:49 am

"I didn't say they had to have a good personality, just a personality."

Again...Bill Belichick has a personality? Dude is a robot.

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 06:04 pm

2 losses and fire everyone,lmfao! If they were 2-6 I'd say yes, someones gotta go. Atlanta lost to the friggin 49ers, fire their new coach? They know how bad they played, I see 6-2 the rest of the way. Book it.

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Oppy's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:58 pm

"(MM) has to have some fire in him if he expects to fire up his team."

Geri, if you think the Mike McCarthy you see in press conferences is the same Mike McCarthy the team sees behind closed doors, you are either ill-informed or willfully fooling yourself.

McCarthy was in ownership of a legendary temper for much of his coaching career, everyone in the league knew Mike was a hot head who was prone to flying off the handle. It's really only been the last 10 or so years he has committed to dialing it down.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:25 pm

Maybe he needs to dial it up again.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:00 am

I swear some folks would be thrilled with an 0-16 record as long as the Packers played with EMOTION!! Forget abouts hours of practice, conditioning, film study, game planning, etc. Even if the team is totally unprepared, at least they are playing with EMOTION! We'd all feel better then.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:51 am

Who said they only needed emotion? It is however part of it. Why do you think depressed people can't motivate themselves? Not saying the Packers are depressed. Just making a point about the part emotion plays. I'm new to this site but I see one has to be very careful about expressing themselves. I thought this was going to be a place where I could converse openly with fellow Packer fans since I'm no longer in WI and in a hostile enviornment every day. Guess not, huh!

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:54 am

I thought we were having a perfectly pleasant discussion...

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:07 am

Guess I'm a little raw and sensitive after yesterday's game. Sorry. The discussion is fine.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:14 am

ha. Understandable.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 03:17 pm

Thanks for understanding. Guess I just wanted somebody to bitch with me. I love my Packers and to watch them play like that puts me in a real funk for a day or two.

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 06:06 pm

The funk gets less with age. It last about 2 hours with me these days.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:51 pm

I have a 6 month old baby. The funk is gone in 15 minutes now. No time or energy to dwell.

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Geri's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:28 pm

Glad your energy goes to the baby. That's the important stuff in life.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 10, 2015 at 01:13 am

Dear Geri,

Welcome to Cheeseheadtv. This is a site where you can express your opinion, even if it is a minority opinion. As long as you sound like an actual fan of the Packers, you will have no problems. That doesn't mean that someone won't disagree, perhaps pointedly, but almost all of us will address the substance of your argument and won't be dismissive or resort to ad hominem attacks.

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Evan's picture

November 10, 2015 at 06:54 am

Shut up, troll.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 10, 2015 at 09:25 am

Thanks for the back up gentlemen! I'm trying to dial back the rhetoric. Unfortunately, I get a little worked up when Archie or Big T hit the board.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 10, 2015 at 09:22 am

Hi Geri! I apologize, did not mean to call you out specificaly. The emotion discussion had been ongoing in the "Gut Reactions" thread and I got a little frustrated. Please continue posting!

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egbertsouse's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:09 am

Even after 3 horrendous defensive games the Dum Capers apologists still come up with their ludicrous excuses. Now it's the offense's fault that the defense sucks. Wow!

I think that MM needs to get Dum out of his luxury box and get him down on the field to do some real coaching. Let him sweat or freeze his ass off, depending on the weather, for the rest of the season. If he doesn't like it, he can retire and sit on the beach in Hawaii with the rest of the seniors and the Pack can get a d-coach with some knowledge of the modern game.

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ollie418's picture

November 09, 2015 at 04:21 pm

Right On! Capers must go!

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croatpackfan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:51 am

Interesting view, Jason. So, basically, you wanted Dom Capers to go on the field and made some pass rush by himself? I watched game twice... Defensive players was slow like turtle or snail... There was no pressure to Cam Newton at all. If there was blitz, blitz stopped at LOS and waiting what? Coffee? Tea? I'm sure that one of the schemas made by Dom Capers is that 3 man rush then 50 yards there is nobody and the rest of 8 players waiting deep at own 10 yards if someone will come and visit them. I'm confident that was the scheme for that play! And players were kept at the 10 yards line not allowing them to run towards receiver of the 40 yards bomb. I'm sure...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:29 am

What is clear is that Newton was not sacked, and was only hit twice. Carolina's O Line isn't supposed to be great. Rodgers was sacked 5 times and hit 14 times (that is, he was hit on 29% of his pass attempts - I don't have the % he was pressured - it is probably astronomical), and he was hit from the left, from the right, and from up the gut. And I thought Rodgers avoided a few more hits/sacks. Yeah, that will prevent a QB from looking downfield for very long. I thought Rodgers had a pretty good game, all things considered.

Croat, I agree that Ryan might have earned a game ball; at least he should be in the rising category of the next article that does those.

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 06:08 pm

Yes but will Ryan see the field more or disappear like Elliot? WTF is up with that?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:54 am

I will give Game Ball to Jake Ryan, roookie who was leader of the D by sacks, 6 solo and 4 combined. Also, there was stellar play of Aaron Ripkowski, who catch the ball and made 18 yards through Panthers D. That was good showing what he is capable of.

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

November 09, 2015 at 12:38 pm

Jake Ryan had 6 solo, 4 combined tackles, 0 sacks. I wonder how many snaps he had? Not a bad line for how little he played.

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 06:10 pm

Maybe we should call Ryan the water boy, 10 sacks?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:55 am

I'd give game balls to Rodgers, Adams, Cobb, and Starks. On defense maybe to hmmmm Daniels, I saw at least a couple of disruptive plays from him. Special teams were okay.

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zoellner25's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:10 am

Masthay had a 26-yard punt. My 11 year old can punt 26 yards. Cow chip.

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

November 09, 2015 at 12:40 pm

No accountability. He's a punter! Is it that hard to find a better one available, right now? Seriously, I have no idea.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:16 am

Lame Call - Jared Allen. After stealing millions for years from the Vikings and Bears (which I don't fault him for) pass rushing past the QB, he is out there gyrating like he's done something. Meanwhile, Luke Kuechly quietly goes about the business of actually playing well.

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Since'61's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:22 am

Game Balls: Aaron Rodgers and James Starks
Lame calls: OL and the entire defense

The play of Lacy, Hayward, and HHCD has been a big disappointment so far this season.

I look at it this way. We're 6-2 which is one game better than last season when we were 5-3 after 8 games. We're 4-0 at home and 2-2 on the road, which is the formula for reaching the playoffs in the NFL. Win at home, split on the road. I'm not excusing the last 2 games because they were both terrible, no excuse. But if we go 7-1 over the last 8 like we did last year we will be 13-3 and probably earn a first round bye.

Having said that this team has a lot of work to do to go 7-1 over the second half of the season. Fortunately, we get a much needed home game this week against a Lion team with nothing to play for.
Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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Archie's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:31 am

This looks like a 9 or 10 win team to me. They still need to get past the Vikings before they can assume they have a postseason.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:07 am

Teddy has a concussion. The Vikings were already offensively challenged, Diggs and CJ are the only decent WRs they have. Their next 5 games: @Raiders; Green Bay; @Falcons; Seahawks; and @Arizona. 0-5 is totally conceivable

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:21 am

Yep - they're certainly no cake walk, but OT wins over the Rams and short-staffed Bears aren't the most impressive victories. Better than losses, of course.

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Oppy's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:02 pm

Yeah.. you know what?

The Vikings still need to get past the Packers before they can assume a god damned thing.

Call me old school, but to be the man, you gotta beat the man. Dig?

Packers own this division. They're the big dogs until proven otherwise... NOT the other way around.

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dobber's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:33 am

From RC earlier: "They could very well be 10-2 in the next 4 games. They could go 4-0 or also could go 3-1. Hopefully in this next stretch they get things figured out and win their division games."

The Packers seem to annually have a stretch where they play bad football...usually at the start of the season. It's unsettling that it's happening at this stage, but the competition has been very good the last couple weeks. None of us expected them to look this lethargic.

The schedule down the stretch is pretty favorable and you're right: the next 4 will be a litmus test. If they can't win at least 3 of these 4 (there really wouldn't be any shame in losing at Minnesota), that's 9-3. I think most of us, if told at the start of the season that the Packers would be 9-3 at the 3/4 pole would say that's about right...and could probably point to the games they likely would have lost. I'm not going to use the "R" word because this is a talented team with significant flaws that's going to have to re-learn how to claw and scratch for everything it gets.

Detroit coming off the bye will be a litmus test. They have played the Packers better in recent years, but they're a dumpster fire right now. Even a dumpster fire coming off a bye is dangerous. The Packers need to show they can impose their will on another team at Lambeau to start the process of righting the ship. If they can't do this, these last 8 games are going to be hard to watch.

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brewers_rule's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:38 am

The trouble is, 9-3 isn't the end of it. We still have to play Minnesota AGAIN in Week 17. That's preceded by a trip to the desert and a VERY hot Cardinals team we've lost to in a big game there before (remember the OT fumble TD by A-Rod?). That's preceded by a trip to face a very underrated Raiders team AND a visit by the Cowboys right about the time Romo's returned to health along with Dez & fighting for their own playoff lives. If we go 9-3 heading into the Dallas game and even split those 4 games, we go 11-5. The way GB's playing right now makes me think we're going to go 1-3 in those games. That means no bye for the playoffs and likely have to host a team like Seattle in the first round limping into the postseason. A Seattle team we barely got by previously and has a history of getting hot as the season goes, mind you.

Mike McCarthy's showing no will to run the ball despite the signs telling him we need to so the defense backs off & the passing game opens up. That's who he's been for years now. Late last season I thought he was showing signs of turning that around heading into the playoffs but I don't know if it's Clements or him but someone's back to abandoning the run game before it even starts. There IS no imposing our will on anyone if that doesn't happen.

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Evan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:47 am

Predicting how teams are going to play week to week is hard enough, but you're predicting hot streaks/performances 5-6 weeks down the line. Take a breath and let the season play out.

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dobber's picture

November 09, 2015 at 01:49 pm

"Mike McCarthy's showing no will to run the ball despite the signs telling him we need to so the defense backs off & the passing game opens up."

Given game flow the last two weeks, I thought 19 runs against Carolina and 22 against Denver was pretty remarkable.

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JRome Coaxum's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:37 am

The Game Ball should go to the fans. We showed up and showed out. It looked like it was 60/40 to me. At one point we were chanting GO PACK GO! at the entrance. However I am disappointed that we lost and look unprepared again. To bad we showed up but the team did not once again.

We have been bamboozled by TT about the quality of talent we have on our roster...

No matter what we stick by the team #GreenBayAllDay

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:41 am

"Unfortunately, the Packers weren't able to get a big, quality win on the road against a good team, but the schedule appears to be on their side next week as they return home to host the Detroit Lions."

Four Division games in 19 days for this team....the perfect prescription any good Doctor would write for the ailing elements of the Packers or is it.

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brewers_rule's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:18 am

Given how this team's playing right now, what to you suggests that we'll just roll on through the Vikings games this season? They have a good DL, a better run game than the Panthers or Broncos, and have WR's that I'd say rival the Panthers right now.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:25 am

What part of my reply to the quoted part has you thinking I offered such thinking about the Vikings getting rolled on?

Please read again.

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dobber's picture

November 09, 2015 at 01:50 pm

Everything definitely needs to be earned from here on...

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WinUSA's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:02 am

I am definitely disappointed with the results of this game. I can't say I agree about Randall. The guy pretty much covered as good as a guy can on man to man on the deep ball that went for a TD.

I guess what surprised me most was the cannon arm of Newton. I haven't seen some ropes that he threw since Favre to Kidrick Taylor. Don't much like the guy at all but have to admit that he brought his A game.

Randall was just the unfortunate one that had balls place absolutely perfectly to his receivers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 10, 2015 at 01:28 am

I cannot disagree more strongly. The long gain was caught by the receiver, but it could have been flagged. I like Randall, but he did not have a good day in coverage.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 10, 2015 at 09:30 am

Absolutely correct tgr! That's the same coverage we've complained about for years against the Packers WRs. However, if the referees let Randall play that way he's going to get a lot more INTs.

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D Ernesto's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:10 am

Hate to disagree with you but but Ha Ha Clinton Dix has shown nothing for two years now. Watch game footage and he stands in center field and watches the action. Funny he has never been injured because he is never contending for the balls. He once in a while jumps on a pile of people on running attempts but otherwise is a worthless piece of ____________

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PDR_TEX's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:55 am

yes i totally agree about Clinton Dix now he got his money he doesnt want to get hurt he ever goes after the ball or a player he watches im seeing this games after game. Plz get Clinton Dix off the field .

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 10, 2015 at 01:31 am

Clinton Dix hasn't gotten the big money yet. If you mean he got first round money, then I suppose. The real money gets earned on the 2nd contract.

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brewers_rule's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:15 am

I guess I'll let the #intedwetrust folks to convince me of the positivity of the last 2 games and/or excuses that make sense.

I listened to Sigmund Bloom on The Audible Podcast from yesterday continue the narrative of this team being soft and a finesse team. Something we've heard for years now in various media outlets. Personally, I'm tired of it but I'm not going to say anything because I've already had too many arguments with a brother of mine about how TT refuses to fix problems on this team no matter how bad his recent drafts have been overall & the low cost of trades. In that vein, I further listened to Packer Transplant podcast member Aaron Nagler talk about how Richard Rodgers stinks as I watch Vernon Davis go to Denver for a song.

Last offseason, I was hoping they would jettison Capers for Wade Phillips and they didn't do it yet again. Half a season in, he has the Broncos playing like the 2000 Ravens while we're STILL floundering weekly. Meanwhile on offense, McCarthy still refuses to pound the football & back defenses off at a time when his QB desperately needs it as does the OL. But I'll let the ITWT folks explain to me how we will easily beat a 6-2 Vikings team TWICE, a dangerous Raiders team on the road, a healthy Cowboys team at home, and a place we've failed before in at Arizona & go on to the top seed somehow to cruise through the playoffs despite no bye to fix these recurring issues that have been going on in some form or another for a few years now. Please, I beg of you ITWT people, explain to me how all this is rosey and I, as my brother says, am just being yet another 'Negative Nilly' on this team whose regular season record is so awesome & any change could just send us back to the annual losing ways of the 80's again? Please, I need the Kool-Aid NOW.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:37 am

Stay away from the Kool-Aid....remain rational no matter the number against you.

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brewers_rule's picture

November 09, 2015 at 10:46 am

I don't know. It's possible my brother's an anomaly but seems to me, the InTedWeTrust crowd sees good things no matter what's going on.

I remember Thompson saying he wanted to model GB after the Patriots and I laugh because if those guys have a clear problem, they fix it with at least B level free agents that fit the system. I'd say if they didn't have Gronk THEY would have gotten Davis for the song Denver did. They don't tolerate repetitive problems and they draft/sign to fix them. TT & MM keep going along with the same mantra of 'We feel good about the guys we have' and we have the same problems over and over that result in us coming up short in the big games. The longer this goes on, the more 2010 feels like a total fluke to me & I keep asking the ITWT folks what separates this regime from being the same 'fart in the wind' Ron Wolf said the Favre era was?

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:19 am

"...the InTedWeTrust crowd sees good things no matter what's going on."

There is no problem with that except when they fail to recognize the bad things going on.Can't have one without the other and creating/looking for excuses to deny the bad in the name of the good is a losing proposition.To win any battle know your enemy...the enemy for the Packers is themselves and their play or replay of prior week implies denial.
Don't be easily swayed by the late rd flurry of punches like the boxer behind on points in rd 12(Kool-Aid)...crowd gets to cheer but the result was already determined.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 10, 2015 at 09:36 am

Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with Sigmund Bloom (sounds like a TV psychologist) and his podcast. What are his qualifications for determining a team is soft? RR caught two TDs. With all due respect to Mr. Nagler, that doesn't stink to me.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

November 09, 2015 at 01:38 pm

Which side of the ball has the reigning MVP? Does that player touch the ball on every single play when he is on the field?

The Packers have the best player in the league at the controls yet I'm hearing the lamentation of losing Jordy Nelson as the reason the offense hasn't been efficient. If this is the case then, using logic, Nelson is more important than Rodgers. This, of course, is utter nonsense. Cam Newton loses his top receiver and yet he operates a functioning offense with cast off receivers no better than the Packer receivers. They've done it for 8 games. No one is calling for a trade of Cotchery for Adams or Philly Brown for Cobb. These are offenses that have lost their "deep" threats yet the Panthers have no problem getting deep. What's the common denominator? Scheme. Mike Shula schemes to get his receivers open, either short or deep. Mike McCarthy does not.

Rob Chudzinski, was able to get a struggling Indy offense with a horrible offensive line to move the ball and put up 27 points on the mighty Broncos defense. How? Ball control passing mixed with timely deep shots. Luck was blitzed 64% of his snaps. He went 16 of 20 for 190 yards and two TDs all with shallow crossers, quick checkdowns and scat releases vs blitz. Scheme put the Colt players in a position to be successful. The results are indisputable.

Chudzinski replaced Hamilton. The calls to replace Clements are ridiculous. It will change nothing because this is McCarthy's offense and his philosophy. It doesn't matter that he isn't calling plays anymore. The schematics are what's important and that comes from him. Unless McCarthy changes his approach you can expect the ineptitude on offense to continue. Competent offensive schemes and staff who design said schemes make adjustments to suit the players at their disposal. Carolina has done that. The Patriots have always done that on offense. McCarthy has adjusted before. We saw it in weeks 2 and 3 this year. We saw it in 2010 mid-year. Throwing up your hands and simply saying "the receivers can't get separation" or "we need to throw deep but we can't get deep because we lost Jordy" does nothing and shows absolutely no depth of understanding for offensive football.

It's quite fine to keep doing what you do when it works. The Packers may beat the Lions, Bears and other less talented defensive teams doing it as they have always done and Packer nation will think all is right again when in fact it is but a mere facade. Even the worst teams can catch up to you on any given Sunday.

Unless tactical adjustments are made expect the ineptitude to continue on offense. Not even the MVP will be able to overcome it.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 02:15 pm

Well written.

I have been saying that their game plan, game management and play calling have been bad all year. The in game adjustments seem to have been non existent of late.

Now obviously a lot of it comes down to execution. But when teams are attacking offenses in certain ways there are things offenses can do to adjust to that. It doesn't seem like the Packers have been able to do that.

Like this week. The Panthers were an attacking defense who has a very good pass rush. One way to help slow down that pass rush is to use the screen pass. Packers finally did that in the 4th quarter. Had they done that earlier in the game, they might have slowed down the rush. That to me is more of the play calling and in game adjustments that is more of the problem then it is a schematic problem.

One thing that the Packers can do against bad teams coming up is start to find their identity more and make adjustments. Problem right now is they are still trying to find themselves offensively.

They need to adjust what they have been doing on offense. and try to get back to more of the West Coast basics. Shorter, quicker passes. More screen passes, and continue to do different things to get WR's open.

I thought in this game though the WR's were open more then they were in Denver, but Rodgers didn't have a lot of time to throw and when he did, his throws were off target.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

November 09, 2015 at 02:20 pm

Well, I'm giving out 2 Game Balls. One goes to my friend JAMES JONES, for making the Best catch of the game, & the only one Catchable that was thrown his way. It gave us a chance to tie the game. He may not be getting separation, but he's playing with a Hamstring that isn't 100%. He's still twice the Receiver Adams is.

The second Game Ball goes to the Odds maker that made GB 2 1/2 - 3 pt Favorites again. Las Vegas isn't paying this guy enough. Oh by the way, he had Denver Favored as well. I didn't check the other games.

This was a Rerun of the Denver Game. GB had No Business being favored in this game. Guess which way the money went. I tried to tell you last week, but Nobody cares. It's not always easy to see, but if you were paying attention, you should have seen this one. The last 2 were easy. I wish there were other betters on his site, but there aren't. No more gambling from me

This is what you want. You want GB to make it into the playoffs with NO GAMES at Lambeau. If were at home, we want to be a double digit Favorite. Just like the year we won. The #6 seed, on the road, & dogs all the way to the SB.

Out here it's not who wins. All that matters is who Covers. GB Will Not cover until the Money gets off their backs. They will cover when you don't expect them to. I know, You Don't Believe That, that's fine with me. I feel both losses have helped GB, more than hurt them in the long run.

Now you can all cut me down for talking foolish. LVT

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4thand1's picture

November 09, 2015 at 06:29 pm

You'e spot on Tom. The Packers are favored by 11 against the lolions.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:07 pm

4thand1, Not sure 11 is enough yet, but those are the ones they normally cover.LVT

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 02:20 pm

"Some will say we're always looking for an excuse to put Rodgers in this category, but hear me out."

No!

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 07:45 pm

Lol, I know a certain someone doesn't want to hear/see this but ....

2nd Quarter

8:10 minutes left

3rd and 11

As Rodgers scrambled to his right #84 broke loose from his defender. Ignored?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:15 pm

2nd quarter

17 seconds left

1st and 10

Look at James Starks...

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 08:27 pm

3rd quarter

13:03

1st and 10

Cobb...can't get more open than that, but for some reason Rodgers scrambled right and threw a low pass which was saved by Adams.

WRs can't get open. Tuh.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:36 pm

4th Quarter

2:30

1st and Goal

James Jones on a slant. Easier pass than that attempted fade.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:46 pm

Final play, there were 2 WRs open before Rodgers decided to dance around...

DaVante Adams on
&
Of course Cobb

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mrj007's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:53 pm

And one big d lineman in Rodgers lap trying to plant him because Lindsey and Sitton blocked like a revolving door...

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:08 pm

That was a second or so after Rodgers began dancing in the pocket. Hitting DaVante probably should've been his first read since it developed much quicker than the rub route ran by Jones and Cobb.

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Mojo's picture

November 10, 2015 at 06:44 pm

Yeah, I noticed the same thing Drealyn. Adams would have (and should) have been the target on the fourth and four. The Carolina safety was too far off to contest a quick pass and the CB covering Adams was already screened off. Only way from him to stop it (without PI) is to try knock Adams arms down.

Really if Adams does his job right the percentage of completion on that play has to be around 90%.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 09, 2015 at 11:46 pm

I want to watch it back again, but I saw a quite a few open Receivers. Now my angle is obviously different then his, but even from my angle you can see guys are open.

Rodgers was off on a number of throws. This has happened since the Chiefs game. I question whether or not he may have gotten hurt and we don't know about it.

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mrj007's picture

November 09, 2015 at 09:51 pm

How many 3rd down conversions can this defense allow? I am going to puke next time this team puts 3 down linemen on 3rd and long. And 5 straight 3 and out on offense after falling behind by 20? 3rd down performance gets my double platinum plated LAME CALL.

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