No surprise. Let's the kids grow up togethor. Plus it saves cap space.
IMO - o 'Donnel stayed this long, as a contingency in sase they needed to xall back Mason Crosby. Now with O'Donnell gone - door is closed in Mason's possible return.

It was the safe option. However, when LaFleur said that the competition was real at the end of last week and then Whelan’s performance as a holder, punter and kick off guy on Saturday, I thought this might turn out as it did. I think we know who our emergency kicker is now too.

O’Connell wasn’t all that good by League standards, particularly later in the year. He was a big improvement on what went before though.

Bakh remains the lone security blanket big ticket player, despite the emergence of Walker and Jones and Nijman still being here. I can see why that “not trading” signal led people to see us sticking with the remaining older guard. Now, however, Carlson and Whelan could be a long lasting partnership.

I don’t see P Smith going anywhere. So I’m not sure how much that means for the rest of the cuts.

Sign a veteran G and/or a S?

Gary

Extra cap space can carry over to next season. We need it both years.

I would say low-risk, high reward. Gute was clear in the direction he was going.

So, (briefly!😉) how does the cap look this year and next?
Thank you in advance, Gr8 one!

O’Donnell was better than what went before, but he wasn’t particularly good in league terms. He’s older, was the 10th highest paid punter and on the last year of his contract. In kicking terms, Whelan was not obviously outplayed by him in camp in terms of leg or directional ability and it seems was seen as equivalent as a holder. It seems to me a perfectly reasonable choice to go with youth given that. I don’t say it was completely obvious, but on a young team it hardly seems unjustified.

Yes, but, what is there to lose? I don’t see Ray Stachowicz’s name listed!

Whelan has more upside potential, but O'Donnell is more consistent. I'm surprised to see the riskier option taken at both K and P. If Carlson is better with Whelan holding, that could be the biggest part of the decision.

Dobber, I certainly hope the plan is to get Orzech back after no one claims him. Are they really intending to go with #43 Hatcher?

Orzech is a vested vet. He doesn’t go through waivers and can sign with any team he likes. That’s probably why they chose to work with him him. I’m sure there will be a little something in his new contract in terms of cash now or other benefit. It may be they were working on a new deal anyway. He’s 28 and was signed through next year.

Will be curious to see how they address the TE position in the next day or two. There's nothing behind Kraft and Musgrave at this point.

Wood reported that Allen has been told that they want him back.

Add Nate McCray

Thomas flashes at times but then has bad plays. I’m not really surprised. I’m not sure they will bring him back on the PS, they may go younger.

I had him as a cut later.
Especially if they carry a 3rd Rb

SJC made himself expendable. He never got better. He was well down the list in the perimeter and had fallen in the slot behind Gaines as well as Nixon, who also may be waived today or in future. SJC dropped down the depth chart during last season. I was mildly surprised that they kept him this long. I suspect it was a last chance that he really hasn’t grasped. Just not good enough.

P.S. Gaines is indeed waived as well. I’m not surprised.

Wood suggesting that Thomas will be offered a PS spot.

The moves are always announced in seemingly random order. There could be a run of WR waivers at any time, including right before the deadline.

They’ve got a way to go yet. So far the only mild surprises were O’Donnell and Allen.

Telfort waived, Tyrell Ford, Sapp. Again, no surprises. They could all be PS invites.

Exactly reason I said they should have kept Lewis. Reliable older experience, catch passes when thrown too, and excellent blocker! Yes older and slow but reliable! Maybe Bears will cut him!

When I've looked I don't recognize a single name at any position.

I do. There's some players we could use. Can already see about 5-6 players who could help improve this team. One in particular that I find to be really intriguing, but will save commenting further until this fray is over.

Blacklock took a pay cut to stay in Minnesota and didn’t make it. He’s not been good at all. He was outplayed by a UDFA, Day, who also didn’t make it.

Denver cut TE Albert Okwuegbunam, despite a greatly improved pre season offensively. He actually blocked this summer too, but more in the move sense than as a true blocking TE. .

They should...!!! 5 with Gary coming back from the knee? I like Hollins' play. Productive.

I thought his was the nearest thing to a competent S performance we saw this year. If we don’t bring in new blood then I think we are deluded. At the moment we are just bad with worse depth and one rookie with one season at S.,

Valentine> Ballentine. She-mar never should have made his first cut. Moore was probably playing hurt from the start of Camp. Get Better.

He's one helluva poker player.

Savage can play the slot. Get another veteran safety, asap.

Ballentine just got picked up by the Lions so no sneaking him onto PS. Good for him but would like to see more depth as those guys tend to get dinged up.

I’m with you greengold. What you see now is not the end. Maybe a small trade or a waiver pickup or two coming. Sit tight.

Cox and Wilson were the ones I was hoping would be protected on the roster, so I'm happy. They cut Grant Dubose, but he should be safe.

Other bubble players who have been cut: Patrick Taylor and Bo Melton, although it could be an injury settlement with Melton. It will be interesting to see if they elevate Taylor from the practice squad a few times to play on special teams and make Wilson a healthy scratch on game days. But they can only do that a few times. Maybe they are giving up on Taylor.

Do you think the need for ILB is due to Campbell's injury? To add to your list, I hope DuBose makes the PS as well.