Totally.

That truly is remarkable.

My crystal ball says otherwise.

why not?? He led all of college in INT's..

"It's the gift that keeps on giving, Clark." :)

"This just keeps getting better."

Well....lets reserve judgement on that, and wait to see this seasons results.

Vikings fan dude...

I questioned that as well Al. Go figure.

It means you've finally "arrived", Al!

Trolls brother! Thanks, Since '61

A down vote?

Say it isn't so!!

A travesty...my condolences, i hope everyone is ok.

JerseyAl

April 24, 2023 at 05:47 pm
"According to Tom Pellissero, Rodgers' contract will be revised in a way that helps the Packers' salary cap. smiles gleefully...
this got a down vote? lol."

Dear Al,

The down vote could be a system error.

I have found that when I wish to give a thumbs up to certain members' posts, instead the thumbs down count increases by 2!!

I have also found that when I wish to give a thumbs down to certain members' posts, the thumbs down count decreases by 2!!

This only happens with a couple different members posts, don't know why.

Anyone else have that experience?

Al, or the thumbs down vote could be someone that recognized that you got it wrong as to any positive salary cap effect for the Packers of the Jets renegotiation with Aaron regarding his contract - as you misunderstood Rapoport and Pelissero's reporting on the still NOT OFFICIAL, still NOT FINALIZED trade (If you have time, please listen to Brian Gutekunst's 29 minute and 27 second interview on Monday afternoon, April 24, 2023 on the Official Packers website).

Rapoport and Pelessero's reporting on the STILL NOT FINALIZED Rodgers trade could be heard here:

Rapoport, Pelissero: Jets agree to trade to acquire Aaron Rodgers
NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport, Tom Pelissero reports the New York Jets agree to trade for quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

Al, please listen from 51 seconds through 1 minute of the 2 minute and 45 second clip:

Ian Rapoport: "...lot of details to get to including the fact that the New York Jets are expected to redo the contract of Aaron Rodgers to give them some more cap space....."

Al, the bonus payments made by the Packers in 2022 and earlier years are sunk costs in accounting terminology and must be amortized as salary cap usage by the Packers. Those past payments have nothing to do with the Jets.

Any salary cap benefit from renegotiation of future/pending contractual payments - i.e. Aaron agreeing to a lowering of the pending $58.3 million option for the 2025 year of Aaron's 4 year contract, which currently must be exercised by the day before the September 2023 season start by either the Jets (if the trade is finalized) or Packers (if the trade is not completed) - of the contract would go to the Jets if the trade is completed not the Packers.

For those that have listened to all of Aaron's interviews from the January 8th, 2023 Lions post game interview to those in the following weeks, we all heard Aaron say in interviews that he recognized the need to renegotiate and restructure his contract the Packers and Aaron said he was willing to do so to benefit the Packers with Aaron playing at QB, should he decided not to retire after taking a couple months away. Brian in interviews in January and right up through the Combine on March 6, 2023 was on board with Aaron taking the necessary time to rest and think through this decision to retire or to play. Brian suddenly OVER A 2 WEEK PERIOD COMPLETELY changed course - my fellow Packer fans and I - fans of 60 to 80 years have all listened together to these Brian (December 5h, January 13th, February 28th) and Aaron interviews (January 8th,2023, McAfee interviews) from December through March 6th.

In fact, as it stands now, if Aaron plays for the Packers in 2023, his salary cap hit is approximately $31.6 M composed of 4 components, $7.7 M proration of signing bonuses paid before 2022, $1.165M minimum veteran salary, $8.2M amortization of the $40.8 signing bonus paid to Aaron in 2022, and the $14.6 M amortization of the $58.3 M option for Aaron's 2025 contract year which would have to be exercised by the Packers a day before the start of the September 2023 regular season - approximately $31.6 M in total.

If the Packers complete this trade before June 2, 2023 the Packers salary cap hit is $40.3 M, approximately $9M higher than Rodgers the $31.6M salary cap hit when Aaron plays for the Packers in 2023 The $40.3 M cap this is made up of the $7.7 M proration of the signing bonus paid pre 2022 and the remaining unamortized $32.6 of the $40.8 signing bonus paid to Aaron in 2022 and is now amortized fully in 2023.

If the Packers trade was completed on June 2nd, 2023 or thereafter then only the $7.7 M proration of the signing bonus paid pre 2022 is still in the 2023 cap calculation along with approximately $8.2 M (rounded) of the unamortized portion of the $40.8 M signing bonus paid in 2022 for a total 2023 salary cap hit of $15.9M. .

This is not rocket since, just basic mathematics and access to the publicly available contract information for these players - how often is it that fellow employees (and the world) know how much each other is being paid in salary and bonus?

The Packers could have held onto Rodgers to start or as backup insurance for Jordan Love, should Jordan's performance very quickly - less than 7 games - show Packer Management and any knowledgeable football fan that Jordan clearly is not the Packer Franchise QB of the present or future or any other team's present or future Franchise QB.

In the best case, Love performs as well as Rodgers did in 2008, the Packers could save the $9M in cap space for 2022, $31.6 cap hit vs. $40.3 cap hit as noted, and trade Rodgers anytime after the approximate March 13, 2024 opening of the 2024 NFL year and the first September 2024 regular season game. The incremental cost here would be the remaining approximate unamortized $43.5 M salary cap hit from the $58.3 M the Packers would have had to make before the 1st regular season September 2023 game.

In the worst case, Jordan's failure, Rodgers could have remained as the Packers franchise and starting QB until the Packers drafted a TRUE FRANCHISE QB (i.e. Mahomes, Burrow - who dominated Jordan in the LSU Utah State game in October 2019- Herbert, Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Fields, Murray, etc. etc. - or otherwise traded for another veteran while continuing its search for TRUE FRANCHISE QB.

Maybe the Aaron Rodgers proposed trade will be reported as FINALIZED by Brian and on the Packers OFFICIAL website by Tuesday, April 25th or maybe Wednesday April 26th or Thursday April 27th or Friday April 28th or Saturday April 29th or maybe before September 2023 or maybe it may not happen at all.

The only thing OFFICIAL at this moment is that as Brian told the reporters Monday afternoon no trade has been completed::

Brian Gutekunst expects Aaron Rodgers trade to be completed before draft
Green Bay Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst spoke with the media prior to the start of the 2023 NFL Draft.

Interviewer: "When did the trade happen?"

Brian: "The trade is not finalized yet. We were expecting it to be done very quickly, hopefully soon. A lot of things have been agreed upon, but there are things to go through."

Interviewer: "How much did things accelerate in the last 24 to 48 hours? Did things pick up this week?

Brian: "Not really, I would say in the last 5, 6, 7 days we been talking. We been talking you know much longer than that but I think the last 5 or 6 days over the weekend and stuff there has been a lot of conversation that helped us get to this point, but again there is still things that need to be done, IT IS NOT FINALIZED BUT WE DO EXPECT IT TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS."

Interviewer: "Is it just paperwork at this time, at this point?"

(STR Note: What an IGNORANT QUESTION - all business deals are on paper or they ARE NOT DEALS AT ALL. NOTHING. ZERO. )

Brian: "Mostly yeah, BUT THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT, so we're not there yet, but again were expected to have this done before the draft."

Interviewer: "Brian, how important was it to get this done before Friday?"

Brian: "It was very important for us, I think you know it wouldn't have been the end of the world but at the same time I think it would have certainly changed things quite a bit, so getting it done ahead of time is important."

Interviewer: "Why?"

Brian: "I just think certainly the capital for this year you know was very important, certainly more valuable than future stuff, so for our football team. So there was a number of reasons, but that's why."

(STR'S note - yeah BIG DEAL a 2nd round draft choice for the winner or the Passer Rating title and MVP 2 of the last 3 years is SO CRITICAL. WHAT AN EMBARRASMENT. Brian should be ASHAMED at how he continues to destroy the Packers)

Interviewer: "I believe at the Owners meetings we talked about the 13th pick and you said it is not like a must have. How did that swap become involved in it. Was that something that they ."

Brian (interrupting): "Yeah, Rob at some point because I know I am going to be talking a lot over the next 5 of 6 days I could go into some of that, BUT NOTHING HAS REALLY BEEN FINALIZED YET, so until it does just bare with me, I'll go through that stuff with you at a later date, but right now we're still ironing some things out, but I appreciate the question."

(STR NOTE: PREMATURELY celebrating Aaron Rodgers haters, Spoiled Packer Fans, Sycophants of Paid Packer Management propagandists, and Aaron Rodgers Church Lady haters addicted to Aaron Rodger's personal life rumors , Brian is telling you that even the BASIC TERMS OF THE TRADE ITSELF - like what, if any draft choice switches there are and what draft choices the Packers are giving and receiving - have not been agreed upon. AGAIN, there is NO DEAL until it is on paper and signed off on by all authorized or required parties, including Rodgers.)

Interviewer: "How important was it for you to limit some of the conditions on the pick the Jets would include for next year as much as possible"

Brian: "Yeah, I am going to echo that again before I get into any of those kind of things we're going to pause there and we will pick it up at the other times I got to talk. (joking looking to his right) I got to talk again right, yeah, ok, so"

Welcome, my brother. It’s a big club.

Not me on the downvote, but Pelisero is completely wrong. Nothing can be done at this point that would help GB's salary cap. I see Ken Ingalls agrees that there is nothing to be done to help GB's cap. Now, they can help NY's cap.

It’s… ginormous.

Deep cleansing breath. Whewwwwww!

Or even more compensation for a trade down. Personally, I like Isaiah Foskey at #13 but we'll see how Gute plays it.

Moving up from #173 to #171 isn't a big deal, but at the top of the draft it's a big deal. Still, there's going to be two good players available at #13 that won't be there at #15.

We have picks at #13, #43, #45, and #78. A little bit of trading down would give us 5 or 6 picks in the top 78.

"Could be a stud or edge..."

I could win Powerball.

Lets wait till a pick is made and the player proves himself on the field before we crown anyone.

Just sayin.

Suck it, Spawny.

Spawny......you gots to learn how to Carry The G round here partner!!.

Gute does a fan damn tastic job, especially rounds 3-7,

Kool aid?

Don't worry about the thumbs down, it's most likely a system error.

You did not say that. The OL part hasn’t happened yet. Wait for it…

First......I am just damn glad AR is gone & the Jordan Love era has begun.

Second, while I wish we had also had gotten #43 to go with #42 I am content. It went down a little better than most on here was predicting. Now Gutey just has to hit some major home runs. I am leaning to wanting Gutey to trade down to #19, or even #29, or #32, and picking up another pick in round 2. Be nice to take three swings in round 2, and possibly an extra 3rd. There is a lot Gutey can do in this draft to help the team, but the draft has to fall in our favor.

Don’t beat around the bush, my friend. This isn’t over. Not even close. Stay tuned.

Being a Beatles fan, "All you Need is Love" is playing in my head.

The unanticipated downside of a successful J. Love career. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the guy as a person (seems like a solid dude actually) or as a player (optimistically looking forward to this season) but I was sick of the Summer of Love etc. references a year or two ago. Now get off my lawn! :P

ouch

Winner!

The time is now. Agree 100%. Could have really been 3 years ago.

I’m hoping for this scenario, unless a must-have talent is available at #13.

I’m relieved that this is finally done, and I’m looking forward to a successful draft. Go Pack Go!

TAke the Blue chip @ #13.

You don’t pass on Michael Jordan because you have yourself scheduled to choose a center in the first round.

“Here. Please take our fucking migraine…”

Box of cookies for this. I almost spit my beer on my laptop.

I'll second that!!!