Jordan Love Has Proved He's a Franchise Quarterback
QB1 has answered the bell each and every time over the last seven games.
By rex.sheild
With the Green Bay Packers sitting at 2-5, after looking lost against the Minnesota Vikings at Lambeau Field in Week 8, several people outside of the organization, myself included, were already looking to the 2024 season and armed with plenty of ideas on how to improve this team moving forward. Jordan Love appeared to be a pedestrian quarterback. The offensive line was inconsistent. The rushing attack was nonexistent. Receivers were running routes practically on top of each other. And the defense, well, was simply not good enough.
Fast forward in time, after looking dominant against the Vikings on the road, Green Bay has silenced every single doubter as the franchise is one win away from an improbable playoff berth, despite being void of key players on both sides of the ball for various stretches throughout the season. Think about that for a second, especially when it comes to the offense. Quarterback Jordan Love, who produced four total touchdowns in the 33-10 victory on New Year’s Eve, has had very few games, if any, where he has had his full arsenal of weapons.
That was the case yet again Sunday as wide receivers Christian Watson and Dontayvion Wicks were both inactive. However, there has been a consistent theme in terms of responding to the litany of injuries, particularly among the skill position players: next man up. And that next man against the Vikings was wide receiver Bo Melton. The 2022 seventh-round draft selection by the Seattle Seahawks was elevated from the practice squad ahead of the Week 17 contest, and in a must-win game, delivered a gem. He finished with six receptions (nine targets) for 105 yards and one touchdown. It was the first 100-yard receiving performance for the Packers this season. Mind you, Sunday night was only Melton’s third career game in the NFL.
The Packers have now scored more than 30 points in back-to-back weeks for the first time this season. One reason for that? The return of running back Aaron Jones. He carried the rock more than 20 times in each contest while averaging 123.5 rushing yards. When healthy, Jones is still one of the multi-purpose backs in the league and is beyond critical to the Packers’ offensive success going forward.
So while Jones’ presence has elevated the offense at the most important part of the season, it is Love’s play that has not only elevated the offense at the most important part of the season, but it is the reason why the Packers are in the spot that they're in.
There were moments early on this season when many legitimately wondered whether general manager Brian Gutekunst swung and missed with his selection of Love in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft. Any qualms should be put to bed at this point in time. Do I think Love is going to be a Hall of Famer like his predecessors? It’s a bit too early to make such a projection, but Love has shown over the second half of the season that, at worst, he’s a top-15 quarterback and, at best, he’s easily a top-8 quarterback.
In the first nine games of the 2023 season, QB1 had 16 total touchdowns and 11 interceptions, with an average passer rating of 83.9. In the last seven games, he has 18 total touchdowns and one interception, with an averaging passer rating of 110.7. A clear night-and-day difference. To no surprise, Green Bay is 5-2 over that stretch.
For the entire 2023 season, Love sits third in touchdown passes (30), 10th in passing yards (3,843), and 11th in Adjusted Net Yards per Pass Attempt, a stat that accounts for interceptions and sacks.
It is almost incomprehensible to write that the Packers are on the doorstep of a playoff berth, but having a franchise quarterback navigate the team through treacherous waters and elevate the players around him makes all the difference.
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Comments (63)
vin0770
January 01, 2024 at 12:14 pm
Best game Love has played 👍🏼 I was really concerned Flores was going to throw some really confusing stuff at him and he tried, but JL had all the answers and his post snap anticipation under pressure was incredible! I didn’t think that anticipation was in his wheelhouse but he’s really taken that next step. I think they can win a shootout with the Bears if necessary when he plays like that, exciting!
ricky
January 01, 2024 at 04:59 pm
Flores threw a lot of confusing looks at Love in the first game, and it worked. He tried the same thing the second game, and it failed. Why? Because Love has the ability to learn and adjust. Now, if we could get the coaches to do the same thing....
calabasa
January 01, 2024 at 12:22 pm
Agreed. While Love has some footwork and accuracy to improve, that’s to be expected. I would say his decision-making and calm demeanor are elite and Clements can work on the tangibles in coming seasons.
We have another good one. I would like to invite the football franchises in MN, MI and IL to SUCK IT!
GO PACK GO!!!
dblbogey
January 01, 2024 at 02:27 pm
Love has shown more than enough. Love his poise and demeaner. Now, let's replace Myers and Runyan in the draft.
Guam
January 01, 2024 at 04:05 pm
Rhyan may already be replacing Runyon. He is a sturdy run blocker and is getting better in his pass pro sets. If he continues to develop, he may turn into a good RG and the road grader the Packers need in their IOL.
JDH1313
January 01, 2024 at 12:40 pm
Yes, he has proven he's the future QB of the Packers but he isn't #4 or #12 he's #10 and has his own story to be written. The future is bright and what a story it will be.
dobber
January 01, 2024 at 01:23 pm
I like that characterization.
croatpackfan
January 02, 2024 at 04:29 am
JDH1313, I agree completely.
I said a year ago that Jordan Love has to be Jordan Love, not Brett Favre or FPQB. Both of his predecessors was uniqe and so he should be. Copy is never that good as original - always not that good!
Leatherhead
January 01, 2024 at 12:47 pm
Oh yeah. He's our guy. Put a team around him before he gets too expensive.
The people who have insisted since the beginning that drafting him was a mistake, or that he wouldn't be very good, are wrong. That's the story. They drafted him, they developed him, and now he's ready to do the job.
Don't underestimate the value of our organization.
Untylu1968
January 01, 2024 at 01:05 pm
It almost feels like this story is repeating itself? Deja vu all over again! Probably the same people that had a shit fit over Rodgers taking over for Favre, will have to accept the same fate with Love..
Thegreatreynoldo
January 02, 2024 at 01:45 am
"Put a team around him before he gets too expensive."
Love gets fairly expensive in 2025 and quite expensive in 2026.
splitpea1
January 01, 2024 at 12:50 pm
For the most part, I never really doubted that Jordan Love would eventually become a good quarterback. But I never expected such a meteoric rise in this short period of time. His decision-making has been outstanding and he looks fully in control of the offense.
Getting Jones back has helped immensely, and the play of the offensive line has improved steadily in the second half of the season. You see how good this offense looks with both of these factors at play.
Tucker Kraft: His emergence has been most helpful in moving the sticks.
Bo Melton: Who would have thunk he would be our first 100-yard receiver of the season? Another practice squad signing gem by Gute. He's good at this!
Other game notes: It's nice to see some other secondary guilty of confusion and communication problems. Some of Vikings DBs must have been napping at the game preparation meetings because they certainly weren't anywhere near where they should have been at times...Major blunder by O'Connell starting Hall over Mullens. The Vikings might have had a fighting chance if they had started the latter; by the time the switch was made, the die was already cast.
As enthusiastic as we are right now, remember that the job isn't finished yet. The Bears are also trending upward in winning four out of their last five. They're not the sorry heap they were in the earlier part of the season, so it will take another good effort to keep them from playing spoiler. They've already clinched the number one pick, so they have no reason not to go all out and finish on an extra-high note.
Bure9620
January 01, 2024 at 01:00 pm
Love is currently the best QB in the NFC. There is not other QB I would rather build a team around in the NFC. Some may say Dak, DVOA Love is better with historically young pass catchers. Love is a franchise QB.
Malland56
January 01, 2024 at 01:07 pm
Love is our man. But, what was with the jumping up in the air to throw the ball. He didn't need to do that when he threw the ball. Just set and throw. No one was even close to him on two of those passes. And he over threw one and missed Melton way outside. They both would of had TD's.
Just one other thing he has problem with and that is his accuracy with the long throws. Hope he can get it down cause he really would be dynamite.
dobber
January 01, 2024 at 01:26 pm
I'd say he's on his way...it's always a journey. Consistency and growth over full seasons.
TheVOR
January 01, 2024 at 04:35 pm
Dob, it’s been a while man! Hello from MrT/TheVOR!
dobber
January 01, 2024 at 05:52 pm
Good to see you!
Happy New Year, friend!
canadapacker
January 01, 2024 at 01:37 pm
First off let's not anoint Love as the next great one. But lets also not deny that he has the talent arm strength and mental fortitude and composure to be the next great one. My issue this year is that during the dark days - it wasnt only Love who was playing below par on the offense. My big complaint was that Lafleur was not scheming properly with the talent that he had available. That being said - and we have some pieces on the Oline - but we need to upgrade some back ups and not overpay for guys like Yosh and Newman. But we obviously have little issues on the receiver and tight end group ( Deguara will probably be gone). Only if we want to spend some money on the running back group - if we move on from Jones ( hope not for one more year - salary cap dependent). In order to win - we need to upgrade our back end and our linebacker/ speed Dline group to compete against these running QB's . However decisions need to be made on Nixon and Savage ( probably gone). I just Hope that Barry doesnt throw in the towel against Da BEARS - like last year he did against the Lions.
Wilment
January 01, 2024 at 01:47 pm
For all the "fans" that have hated on this kid all year long, y'all find a pile of sand, a hammer, and start pounding. Love has shown the ability to learn, adjust, and get the respect of the team. Hr has become the general on the field while dealing with the comparisons to Favre and Rodgers. He may not be fill the shoes of those two, but this kid is poised to make some footprints of his own. Sign him to the deal He has surely earned it GOPACKGO!
ChrisD
January 01, 2024 at 02:48 pm
It’s pretty boring reading all the haters in every comments section. And it isn’t just Love. Barry of course deserves his criticism. But Gute, MLF, Bassacia, Steno and even Russ Ball are all the targets of these pretend-fan haters. To these perpetual haters, find another team if you can’t get on board here!! Because this organization is well run and well coached (mostly). I hope we can all give them a strong, healthy 👎 next time we see them here. Accountability is important right?
Johnblood27
January 01, 2024 at 05:11 pm
Did the Packers just win the Super Bowl and I missed it?
They are a .500 team with a chance at the playoffs.
OK, start your parade for every individual associated with the franchise, you cover all costs, ok?
Newsflash spunky... The GB Packers are not perfect and some aspects of the franchise could use a firm upgrade.
Deal with it Homer!
NFLfan
January 01, 2024 at 02:23 pm
I was 50-50 about Love but did not think we could fairly evaluate him until the o-line settled down and receivers stopped running into each other.
Qoojo
January 01, 2024 at 02:36 pm
Read another article today that Love's stats in his first season starting are better than any qb in bears history. I think Eric Kramer was the closest with 10 fewer total yards passing and 29 TDs.
LambeauPlain
January 02, 2024 at 02:17 pm
Amazing, isn't it? That stat alone indicates Love has talent to succeed in the NFL. Will he continue to do so?
I hope he does and expect he will. His character should be a key ally. Playing QB should become easier for him because he works so hard at it on and off the field.
GVPacker
January 01, 2024 at 02:50 pm
Mr Love looks very confident In the pocket. The arm looks good and his mobility Is also Impressive
Did the Packers once again Catch Lightning In A Bottle ? The future looks promising In Packer Land!
Packerpasty
January 01, 2024 at 03:07 pm
Prove it to me one more time...like next Sunday...
13TimeChamps
January 01, 2024 at 03:17 pm
You sure you don't want your boy Clifford to start...or have you finally given up on that nonsense?
Bitternotsour
January 01, 2024 at 06:00 pm
ah yes, institutional memory. so valuable in so many situations.
TheVOR
January 01, 2024 at 04:32 pm
You know who else proved he was a franchise QB? Dante Cullpepper! All those Super Bowl championships!
Green Bay is now officially in a bad place, because they need to base a Franchise QB contract on what will likely be a 9 & 8 season.
I wish I was convinced, I’m not! I think he has improved quite a bit over this Season, but what we’ve seen all years is a tale of two different players, one that performs really well in Big games, and one that drops off in games he should win.
As a long time fan spanning 6 decades of Packers football, I’ve seen some great QBs. I’m still unsure that Jordan Love is one of them. The Packers need to be very careful with this contract. It could as easily be 5 years of Middling Football!
13TimeChamps
January 01, 2024 at 04:49 pm
Just curious...what would you think a reasonable contract extension should look like in todays NFL? Something that both sides would be amenable to.
jont
January 01, 2024 at 06:45 pm
Good question, 13TimeChamp, and one that will be on the front burner soon. Love agreed to a nice, 2-year deal. It took the pressure off and let him focus on his play to show what he could do in a full season, and it laid down a second year to work out a long term deal. He's shown well, and it's time for that good contract.
How does this sound? 5 years, starting base salary about, say, the average of the top 10 QBs with escalators that could take it to the $45-50 mill range with a Super Bowl or MVP but also with more achievable escalators that would put him at the average of the top five QBs.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 02, 2024 at 01:50 am
4/$168M with $60M to $85M fully guaranteed at signing?
croatpackfan
January 02, 2024 at 04:34 am
I'm with you TGR. As always good at numbers!
Coldworld
January 02, 2024 at 11:25 am
That’s high. It may be reasonable, but the tag amount last year was 32.5million for a QB and is speculatively estimated at around 36 million for 2024. You seem to propose an average of 42 million a year.
That would be reasonable if he were indeed a consensus top 5 QB. The tag is averaged from the top 5 over the past 5 years. So clearly a little behind the theoretical true top 5 price, but you’ve just finished telling us that he’s not that yet and we don’t know if he will be. Now you want to pay him 16 percent more than the probable top 5 average? It would almost be cheaper to tag him for a couple of years (not that I recommend that).
Seems like an unnecessarily negative take on our negotiating position and skills as well as self-contradicting. Love is not going to be cheap but there’s a great deal of opportunity to tie that to performance personnel AND team precisely because he’s not yet a proven top 5 QB.
If Love leads the team to success then we will undoubtedly be happy and he will undoubtedly get richer. No need to start treating him like he’s already a Super Bowl MVP.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 03, 2024 at 02:13 am
That's a good observation. I was using the Giants 4/160M offer to Daniel Jones after he managed to play pretty well for most of a season. Jones' stats were not as good as Love's. Jones had 15 TDs and 5 INTs with a 92.5 passer rating, but went 1-5 in 2023 with 2 touchdowns vs. 6 INTs for a 70 passer rating.
I overlooked the fact that Jones would be a UFA if not signed. Still, Jones got $81M fully guaranteed, $23M injury guaranteed for 2025, and $35M in incentives (which aren't described by OTC or spotrac).
If Love were viewed as a top 5 QB (and since week 9 or so he has those kind of stats - read huber's overreaction article), Love's fuully guaranteed money would jump to $110M at 4/$190M.
The Packers can't pay Love next May much more than $35m - or perhaps $50m to stretch a point- as a signing bonus without major work on existing player contracts. It could be an interesting contract structure.
$40M/year was what it cost NYG to find out about Jones. Is that the going rate? Stay tuned.
21Savage
January 02, 2024 at 08:45 am
Daunte Culpepper was a great QB when he was on the field, but his career is a big "what-if". What if the Vikings sold to an owner who didn't actively hate him? What if he didn't shred his knee while in his prime? What if the love boat scandal never happens? He was on a HOF trajectory until all that stuff happened. Other than the possibility of injury, I don't see Jordan running into any of those problems.
Coldworld
January 02, 2024 at 10:29 am
Culpepper relied more on his athleticism. Losing that was a huge factor. That’s the problem with QBs that aren’t pocket first types: it’s lethal potentially at times and especially young, but very hard to sustain and it’s rare that one successfully transitions as it declines.
The other aspect that Love has that Culpepper perhaps was not as blessed with appears to be his temperament. That calmness, unflappability, could be the differentiator. Rodgers’ laser focus, Favre’s attitude if not caring about the last snap all played a role in their ascendancy.
That’s not to say that was present in every game, but their success stemmed as much from that as their physical talents. When combined with an ability to process, that’s a huge advantage. It’s also one many athletic types don’t have as ingrained. Love remains a work in progress, but there are signs of differentiation visible that are very similar to one’s Rodgers exhibited.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
January 01, 2024 at 06:28 pm
More Jordan Love doubters than there were believers. Many doubters have gone quiet but most haven't acknowledged they were wrong.
Regardless, Gutey has done an amazing job! Love the fact that Jordan is surrounded by young talented offensive players and they are all growing together. The next 3 years is going to be fun watching them develop together.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 02, 2024 at 03:37 am
I hated the Love pick. I think my analysis was sound. We here at CHTV rated Love as a first round pick in the draft guide, 15th best prospect, though many had him as late first rounder. I did not think Love's talent was unworthy of a first.
I thought the timing w as all wrong for GB. In 2020 I thought GB needed defense, blocking OL and a WR. Got Love who didn't play for 3 years at all. Got Dillon to replace Jamaal Williams. [Don't use a 2nd round pick to replace a $3M/year player!] Got Deguara who can't block, isn't a dynamic route runner, doesn't offer YAC, just average hands. Kamal Martin lasted a year. Runyan had one year and otherwise has looked like the 6th rounder he was. [When the options are Hanson and Newman, Runyan only looks bad. When hanson/newman whiff and get your expensive/promising QB's collarbone broken, fans notice. When Runyan whiffs on the 350 pound NT who crushes Dillon or Jones, fans don't notice.
So, would it be fair to say that the supporters of Love cost GB a trip to a super bowl? Would it be fair to think those who liked Love/Dillon/Deguara cost GB a trip to 2 super bowls? 😇😇 Round 1, 2, 3 often help their team in year one or two. I think that's kinda fair, at worst. That shit show of a 2020 draft doomed GB's chances.
Had we tried to be the best in 2020-2022, sucked in 2023, would we be better off? Would 2024 look good with drafting Caleb Williams? More realistically, how about with Daniels, Nix, or Penix?
I will concede (though I never said/wrote that Love would be a bust) that Love looks like Goff or Derek Carr. Maybe he looks better if he takes a 2nd year jump in year 5. You can focus on the future (as will I) but I will blame the 2020 draft for not winning or appearing in another super bowl. I will blame STs as well.
croatpackfan
January 02, 2024 at 04:39 am
And here we don't agree.
The only reason why Packers was not in SB from 2019 to 2021 was FPQB, his whining and tunnel vision, his "his majesty" behaviour and his inner need to not allow INT or low QBR. His goals were MVPs, not SB.
jannesbjornson
January 02, 2024 at 09:26 am
Concise and accurate. I was just going to answer another poster, regarding the drafter's dilemma. If Penix,or Nix are at 18-20 in round one would you bag them? Year Seven of the Gute approaching and still no gold in the fancy cupboard. Personnel answered the bell this past draft, but crashed cars litter the ledger of year's 1-5. 2024 should be his make,or break year. After all, Ted and Wolf had secured championships by year six.
Bitternotsour
January 02, 2024 at 10:57 am
Take your L and move on. You were wrong. Hindsight in rounds 2-5 in 2020 is revisionist and foolish. The draft is about 4 years, not one. The draft of a quarterback is about a franchise future, not a 4 year window.
Did you know that 33 was going to be re-signed? Did you have some sort of crystal ball that said he wouldn't get hurt? LaFleur wanted a hybrid fullback/tight end. It was a specific request. How did Deguara not check that box? I hate revisionism. The draft is a crapshoot. The Packers are better at it than most. If you look at this years draft the first 7 rounds of picks have contributed already, and in significant ways. Amortize that, and it wipes your criticism of the 2020 draft. Except, and it's a HUGE except - we got a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
JJB
January 01, 2024 at 08:10 pm
Gute hasn't done a great job. Watson is a injury waiting to happen. He has taken over fir Clay and the new chinadoll. Also the reason we are in this cap problem is gute. He had also.wasted all of the 3rd round picks he's ever drafted. Maybe not Kraft.
As for Love I need to see another yr like this numbers wise to.say we have our qb.
PackLife23
January 01, 2024 at 09:31 pm
Even if he continues to exceed the stats of Favre and Rodgers, and leads the Packers to playoffs under nearly impossible circumstances, there is still an underbelly of this fan base who will seek to criticize him. They simply need to be right in their own minds that drafting him was a mistake and that Rodgers was going to take us to the Super Bowl if he just had one more receiver
Thegreatreynoldo
January 02, 2024 at 04:05 am
Wait for Love to approach AR's stats in a good year. Love's floor is pretty good. I don't know what his ceiling is.
We had plenty of fans criticize AR and Favre even during their MVP seasons.
Coldworld
January 02, 2024 at 10:59 am
Rodgers continued to ascend after his first season. Love must to be considered in the same league. However, by the end of year one, 80% of the doubters had seen enough to back Rodgers. For some it took a Super Bowl. I don’t pay too much heed to them now either.
As to your theory that the Love pick cost is a Super Boel. It’s interesting that the most vociferous supporters are the ones that think Gute can’t make a good pick anyway, hated the Garry pick and almost every subsequent first rounder.
In 2020 & 2021 we had a roster that never progressed as far as we and neutrals expected. 2019 is more debatable. In each of those three cases poor preparation and in game decisions cost us.
Some, like Croat, primarily blame Rodgers. I personally think it’s been shown to be mostly LaFleur with hindsight. Going away from the run game, Drayton, the OL switcheroo, Barry playing soft D and a hobbled King … coaching undid us every time. One can certainly argue about the play calling ruts and Adams, and who forced that, but ultimately got me, that too is on the head coach. Coaching decisions not roster strength killed us, and thus not the Love pick.
I didn’t like picking a QB either, but as you’ve frequently said previously, if Love works out, then picking a starting QB when he comes within reach is a win. We’ve yet to see if he’s a true franchise QB, but if he grows into one, it’s a vast win. Taking that talent when available made TT. It’s that big.
A little odd to see you backsliding when Love is looking like he might have a genuine chance to be just that after a full season starting. At worst, over this year, with neophyte receivers and TEs, Jones injured mostly and a poor OL, he’s statistically put up a top half, maybe top third season as a QB in his first year starting. A 26th pick for that would be something most teams would rejoice in, even if that’s his plateau.
Personally I’m quite happy to loudly admit that I was wrong at the time and that Love has far surpassed my season expectations as well. I think his development has been a big factor in that of those around him and he’s lifted this team and thus coaching once he settled in and got over the scripted disasters and built on the more improvised and less cautious second halves of the opening half of the season. If anything he showed LaFleur how he and we needed to play, not the other way around. Talent and roster over coaching again.
LambeauPlain
January 02, 2024 at 02:48 pm
I liked the Love pick. Great story. Seems to have solid character and off the charts work ethic. Losing his Dad/mentor/coach when he was in Junior High was an obstacle he overcame. Did well in High School, better in college...and by all accounts worked long hours to finally start as an NFL QB.
He's surprising many fans as he directs the Offense and carries the youngest NFL team to 8 wins. Give Jordan solid blocking, a healthy Aaron Jones and Musgrave, Watson, Wicks back...look out!
Starr, Favre, Rodgers. The three best Packer QBs of all time. Will there soon be "the four best"?
21Savage
January 02, 2024 at 08:48 am
Those fans are all engaging in revisionist history saying they wanted a receiver with that pick. I was around for all the chatter during that draft. Everyone wanted Patrick Queen, who has been a decent at best MLB for the Ravens in his career so far. But since Queen hasn't exactly lived all the way up to his first round billing, everyone has retconned their pick to saying they wanted Higgins, even though I never heard his name out of a single Packer fans' mouth until he started breaking out in Cincinnati.
Coldworld
January 02, 2024 at 11:04 am
Very true. Part of my anger at the Love pick was being still pissed that we couldn’t snag Jefferson and the Vikings had, to compound that. The only solace was that we did avoid the popular pick of Queen.
Yes, some of the loudest Gute decryers for “undermining Rodgers” by picking Love were the most strident Queen partisans. The missing piece on O? Obviously not, but even on D, that would be a ridiculous stretch with hindsight.
21Savage
January 02, 2024 at 11:37 am
Yeah, getting Jefferson would have been amazing, even moreso with the hindsight we have today. Not being privy to any of the conversations, I have to wonder what the cost would have been to leapfrog that far? Getting Love at Miami's #26 overall took the #30 overall and a 4th rounder. In order to have gotten JJ, we likely would have had to either have swung a deal for Miami's #18 instead, and that's assuming they were even interested in trading that one. And the price to move up 12 spots would have been a lot higher than moving up 4 spots.
Obviously with 20/20 hindsight, anyone would give up two first rounders to get Jefferson if you knew what he'd become today. But something like that would be a lot of risk for a guy who hasn't played a single down in the NFL before. And there were serious questions at the time whether or not he was just a product of playing WR2 behind Jamarr Chase.
coolhand
January 02, 2024 at 09:58 am
Yes, ARod only needed 1 more rookie receiver that he would not throw the ball to, that would have won us a SB!
Tundraboy
January 01, 2024 at 11:55 pm
Smiles everywhere. Who ever thought a year ago, about this time, we would be here!
Thegreatreynoldo
January 02, 2024 at 04:06 am
This is the best comment on this thread!
Tundraboy
January 02, 2024 at 05:03 pm
I am honored!
coolhand
January 02, 2024 at 10:00 am
A year ago? How about 2 months ago? I though Love would surprise people but I wasn't sure the rest of the team would progress as much as they have.
stockholder
January 02, 2024 at 07:14 am
Franchise QB. or Franchise TAG.
Love isn't Tom Brady.
I get you want to replace Rodgers as the face.
But there is still a lot of Loves game, that must improve.
Bitternotsour
January 02, 2024 at 11:02 am
i refer you back to your comments on Rodgers first year of play. there is a digital trail.
do you ever tire of being wrong about just about everything?
stockholder
January 02, 2024 at 03:55 pm
No I'm never wrong. - per #12
The problem is you think I am.
There is No wrong opinion on here.
It's talk, share, and enlighten people.
JordyWoodson
January 02, 2024 at 08:43 am
3 items for consideration.
A. Feels more like a team effort than when Rodgers ran the show. Drop a pass? Hit the showers... you're hurting my stat line.
2. He continues to grow and learn. He is 3 -0 on teams seen twice (Det, KC, Min).
And D. He is coming in on the heels of two HOF QBs but it feels like he wants to carve his own path with his team.
Addendum: Nagler hasn't had to say "Chuck it up for Jesus" ball and for that, we are all thankful. Go Pack Go!
Houndog
January 02, 2024 at 09:43 am
Jordy,
"A. Feels more like a team effort than when Rodgers ran the show. Drop a pass? Hit the showers... you're hurting my stat line."
No Kidding!
How many times when someone dropped a pass did we see that "stare at LaFleur and roll your eyes" look over the years?
Houndog
January 02, 2024 at 09:31 am
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou,
"More Jordan Love doubters than there were believers. Many doubters have gone quiet but most haven't acknowledged they were wrong."
You're right on the doubters, and I was one of them. But you've got to admit that his limited appearances during the first few years were not that good. Even his up-n-down roller-coaster performances earlier in this season were not all that reassuring, but I now think, and am hoping that I was wrong.
I'm not ready to put him in the HOF just yet, but I've watched him improve throughout the season, and Sunday night was amazing. He was masterful in the pocket and despite a couple easy misses he made some really great throws. It kinda' seems that 'touch' is not his best game as of now, but when he just 'Rips It' he looks pretty damned good. He's seeing his progressions well, and seems to be reading defenses pretty well. (it's highly unlikely that Bo Melton was the designed target on any of those plays, and yet Love continued to find him when open).
If he can improve on his touch passing over the off-season, 2024 could be fun to watch.
I'm not ready to put him in a category of Favre or Rodgers just yet, but he ain't David Whitehurst or Randy Wright either.
Bitternotsour
January 02, 2024 at 11:06 am
he is the best quarterback in the NFC North. he is a franchise QB. and yes, you were wrong about him. he needs to stay free from injury, but he is a thoroughbred, and we are lucky that Brian Gutekunst has balls of steel.
4thand10
January 02, 2024 at 10:12 pm
I made it known, I had the stones….once i watched the philly game and the game he started against SF ( which was close) …I said he looked like and nfl qb and book it. Nobody knows where it’s going…but as far as I know he is on a 2 yr prove it deal for 20 million This being yr 1 of the deal. So we get to watch him play all of 24 and maybe into 25 before contract talk time. I like watching good teams with non greedy QBs….instead of HOFers handicapping the whole teams cap.It takes all 53.