Identifying Perfect Packers First Round Fits

These 10 players could be in play for Green Bay at pick 25.

As the 2024 NFL Draft draws closer, talk of who the Packers might take with pick 25 is starting to heat up.

With an absolute minimum of four quarterbacks expected to go in the first round, and maybe as many as six, Green Bay should still be in range to select a strong prospect at the back end of the first round, but who are they likely to be interested in?

Unfortunately there is a real lack of players who have completed all the athletic testing this year, and this is something the Packers have traditionally valued highly in the Ted Thompson/Brian Gutekunst era.

Of the 20 first round picks the two GMs have made, every player but one completed all the athletic testing, with Kenny Clark the only exception, skipping only the 3-cone drill.

With almost every pro day wrapped up, the list of players who Green Bay is likely to be interested in at 25 is nearly complete. For this exercise, the parameters to make a prospect a ‘perfect Packers type’ in round one will be:

  • They skipped one athletic test at most
  • Their Relative Athletic Score (RAS) is at least 8.37 (the lowest RAS drafted in round one by Gutekunst)
  • They are a consensus top 60 prospect (the lowest consensus-ranked player Gutekunst has drafted in round one is Eric Stokes, who was 56th)
  • They adhere (or are close) to the athletic thresholds Packers seem to prefer at each given position

This method gives us the following prospects, broken down into tiers as follows:

No chance

Rome Odunze - The Washington wide receiver is not making it out of the top ten, and the Packers are not moving all the way up to draft him.

Will they fall?

Every year, a player or two falls further than anyone thinks they will, allowing a team picking lower in the draft to take advantage. These three players are ranked between 12 and 17 on the consensus big board, but could one of them fall to Green Bay?

Terrion Arnold - He may well be the top corner drafted, but the rise of Quinyon Mitchell could change that. He is a touch lighter than the cornerbacks Green Bay usually likes at 189 lbs, but has a 9.25 RAS.

Jared Verse - The Packers may not be interested in an edge rusher in the first round after taking Lukas Van Ness 13th overall last year, but Verse is a freaky athlete and an explosive pass rusher. You can never have enough.

Laiatu Latu - See above. Latu shocked some people with elite athletic testing at the combine, running a 4.64 40 at over 6'4” and nearly 260 lbs. A serious neck issue in his injury history could put the Packers off, and his arms are a little shorter than they like, but Latu is a stud.

The right range

Chop Robinson - Another super athletic EDGE, Robinson blew up the combine with an insane workout which featured a 4.48 40. He is a young, toolsy pass rusher with a lack of college production. Sound familiar, Packers fans?

Chop is ranked 28th on the consensus board, so would appear to fall into the right range for Green Bay, and although he is not their type in terms of size, at least recently, at 6’2.7”, he is still bigger than Nick Perry who they drafted in the first round.

“Reach!”

These players are all ranked between 44 and 54 on the consensus big board, and their selection would elicit plenty of accusations of reaching on Green Bay’s part. But between Eric Stokes, Quay Walker or Darnell Savage, the Packers have done this before.

Edgerrin Cooper - There has been plenty of buzz linking the Packers with Cooper, and it is clear to see why. They have a need at linebacker and Cooper is a great athlete with the size and length they look for.

Braden Fiske - The Packers really have no business taking another defensive lineman who is primarily a pass rusher, based on the current construction of their roster, but there is no denying Fiske’s explosiveness and relentlessness.

Ricky Pearsall - A wide receiver in the first round? With the strength Green Bay already has at the position? This probably will not happen, but Pearsall’s tape is great and he stunned everyone with elite athletic testing across the board at the combine.

Kris Jenkins - The former Michigan man is much more run stopper than pass rusher from the interior, and that is something Green Bay needs more of on their D-line. He tested excellently and has ties to the Packers via his uncle Cullen.

The one hope?

There is one prospect who has yet to do any athletic testing due to an injury, and that of course, is Cooper DeJean.

DeJean just screams “Packer”. He is a big, fast, versatile defensive back from Iowa who is expected to perform extremely well when he finally tests on April 8. Currently ranked 21st on the consensus big board, DeJean has been mocked to Green Bay countless times already.

The former Hawkeye has announced he will do all athletic testing at his workout, and as long as he shows out in the way most people think he will, DeJean may simply be the obvious pick for the Packers in the first round if he is available when they are on the clock.

 

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @MarkOldacres

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Cheezehead72's picture

April 02, 2024 at 12:31 pm

All I care about is to do the right thing for the Packers if that is trade up, trade down or pick at 25. Make the team better. I can make a guess (yes and that is all we are doing) right now but until the draft starts it is hard to say what they should do or will do. Shoot Gute does not even know what he is going to do. Even after the first round we will not know if it is the right thing to do. I recommend reading about it and then enjoying the show when it happens.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 02, 2024 at 12:32 pm

Three edges and two receivers? Seriously?

FAR more likely that we pick one of the top tackles.

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Cheezehead72's picture

April 02, 2024 at 12:40 pm

I still lean towards trading down if we get a good deal.

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golfpacker1's picture

April 02, 2024 at 02:27 pm

PackEyedO, some of these articles are just hilarious. I understand this is their job creating draft filler, but to keep suggesting players that are so far from Green Bays needs is laughable.

The idea of let's keep adding premium pick players @ position groups that are already a team strength is ridiculous. And keeps us from picking from the TOP 3 players at each position group we have big holes in. Real, Actual Needs. I like that, add RAN to BPA, RAS, PON.

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 02, 2024 at 12:55 pm

Ruke Orhorhoro had the same RAS score as Fiske, has 3" longer arms and has more upside.

https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1770482934694420681?t=jlxpogM0X-bLHN...

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dobber's picture

April 02, 2024 at 12:59 pm

"Ruke Orhorhoro"

Go home, Scooby Doo, you're drunk!

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 02, 2024 at 01:07 pm

Scooby wasn't a drinker, just liked to puff the cheeba a bit too much. I said awhile ago if you wanted to know how to pronounce Orhorhoro just imagine Scooby took one puff too many!

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 02, 2024 at 01:03 pm

Orhorhoro is also a year and 10 months younger than Fiske, something the Packers will notice. From PFF:

"Orhorhoro weighed just 265 pounds as an edge defender when he joined the Tigers but has since bulked up to around 290 to play inside, as well. His body type makes him a tweener on the defensive line, but he is strong for his frame, and that gives him a ton of versatility. He has played everything from zero-technique to five-technique. He is a reliable player in run defense, consistently staying square with the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage, and is not one to whiff on tackles. As a pass rusher, he wins with speed and power, but his profile outside of his athleticism is lacking — something that could develop during his NFL career."

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splitpea1's picture

April 02, 2024 at 01:15 pm

Come on, this is just mental masturbation. These parameters for the "perfect Packers type" are nothing more than self-imposed limiting factors. There are plenty of players to be very interested at #25, and I guarantee there is more than one OL that fits the bill here regardless of any historical tendencies with Gute.

One of the best ways to avoid first-round reaches is to not be so seduced by some of these glitzy athletic numbers that it clouds overall judgment.

I would agree about DeJean, though, pending his workout (which everybody is waiting for). In addition to a number of OLs that may be available, the intersection of BPA and need corresponds very nicely for the Packers.

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nagawicka's picture

April 02, 2024 at 06:06 pm

The author stated he was self-imposing parameters at the outset: "For this exercise, the parameters to make a prospect a ‘perfect Packers type’ in round one will be: . . . ". It's understood; and it's a given there are a mass of prospects we don't know about, all fitting Gutekunst's reqs, metrics we're not entirely aware of

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golfpacker1's picture

April 02, 2024 at 02:34 pm

I wish Orhorhoro, Fiske, or Sweat were available in 2025 when we will need to draft Clark's eventual replacement. Luckily, Kenny will sign an extention soon and so we don't need DT this draft, we can concentrate on our actual needs. OL, LB, S, RB, CB.

By the way, the 2025 draft looks really strong and deep @ DT and Edge, which will be our biggest needs then.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 02, 2024 at 03:09 pm

Thinking, it is more likely that the KC extension rumors came from his agent than the F.O. While Clark is still playing at a high level - he is approaching 30 - with many miles on his odometer. Plus it will be his 3rd contract - which the Packers typically avoid. Still I would welcome an extension - if it was a team-friendly one.

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Coldworld's picture

April 02, 2024 at 07:28 pm

Dejean, if he tests and tests well, is an interesting player. But where would you suggest he plays for us?

He is not expected from film to profile well as an outside corner. His speed is a question. Possibly a pro day could answer that, but there’s still the film. He’s probably not physical enough for a Hafley box safety either. We aren’t going to pick in the first round for a 4th corner.

He’s essentially not played safety anyway, so he’d be a conversion project there at best. I’m not convinced that qualifies as a perfect fit in a first rounder.

So slot? We have just signed Nixon. I think he might be an upgrade there, but I don’t see us spending our first pick to do that now.

This is an odd selection of players and an odder rationale.

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GregC's picture

April 02, 2024 at 09:20 pm

Most people project DeJean as a safety in the NFL, and I think he may be physical enough for a box safety. He is quite strong and is considered to be a good tackler. He was recruited to Iowa as a safety but ended up playing corner. Of course there is still the question of how quickly he could learn to play safety in the NFL. He does seem to be a good football player rather than just a good athlete, so maybe he is the type that could learn fast. Ideally he and McKinney could be interchangeable as post safety and box safety, but it might be expecting too much for that to work with DeJean as a rookie. He's such an intriguing player, but yes, he is far from a sure thing to make a big impact immediately.

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April 02, 2024 at 11:55 pm

I’m aware of the widespread assumption that he can play Safety. That’s a supposition not a certainty. He’d be smaller at SS than our projected slot let alone Hafley’s college recruits to the position. Just seems like a poor fit to me.

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stockholder's picture

April 03, 2024 at 06:48 am

He's above 6 foot.
Smaller ? Punt returner?
I See Versatility and game changing ability.
That isn't a poor fit.

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Coldworld's picture

April 03, 2024 at 08:09 am

I like the player, that doesn’t mean I think he fits our current roster and likely D type. He may be a good safety with time, he might well be a better slot than Nixon, but we aren’t likely to draft in the first for competition there and shouldn’t for a speculative transition to S, especially where he profiles best to the role now filled by McKinney.

There is a difference between liking a player and seeing him as a wise or likely investment for us. Context is everything, not the individual in isolation.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 03, 2024 at 01:32 pm

If he wants a guy like Harrison Smith to control the inside/middle, then bag DeJean. He should be there at #25. The OTs will be in demand this draft. A coin flip between him and McKinstry, if he is looking DB.

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mrtundra's picture

April 03, 2024 at 08:01 am

Playing for Iowa, didn't DeJean play more zone than man coverage? I have all sorts of bad vibes about drafting DeJean with our 1st pick. I feel we should draft the best OL guy at #25. I think that may be Graham Barton, who can play all positions on the OL. It would not surprise me to see Gute go OL for at least 3 picks, this draft, and maybe only OL in the first 2 rounds.

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Chuck C's picture

April 02, 2024 at 08:55 pm

OL first, unless DeJean is available. LB next? OL or CB, whichever we didn’t pick in the first. 3rd round? Best available but hoping for DL and Safety.. maybe B. Allen (RB-UW) last 3rd round pick?

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golfpacker1's picture

April 03, 2024 at 08:59 am

Just curious Chuck, if we draft a D-lineman in the 3rd round, where and when is he going to play? Who will he take the place of? Picking one that late @ E or DT we aren't even choosing a Top 10 player @ those positions. Backup is what they would be, and we need backups a lot more @ OL and LB.

Instead of DeJean in the first, it makes more sense to trade back for an extra Day 2 pick. I vote for drafting a player @ Safety who has starred @ Safety. And we can get that @ #58. We don't need a project @ Safety.

Drafting Cooper is like drafting Walker all over again. Colson is the best overall of the top 3 LBs. Pick him @ #41 and don't look back.

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GregC's picture

April 02, 2024 at 09:28 pm

In the first round, they have to choose between picking a player of need at a non-premium position (LB, safety, IOL) or a player at a premium position (CB, OT, DE, DT) who may not even start as a rookie. It's quite a dilemma. After the first round, things should become much more straightforward as they get into a big sweet spot of the talent matching their needs at non-premium positions. What a luxury to have five picks in the first three rounds.

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gsd3's picture

April 03, 2024 at 05:47 am

References to nick perry or Cullen Jenkins are irrelevant. Previous regime.

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April 03, 2024 at 06:43 am

One drift I've picked up from Gute's drafts is he likes to draft for one year ahead. Last year there were a bunch of players who played right away which went against the trend. Jordan Love will get paid this off-season, but Kenny Clark, Josh Myers and I. McDuffie are all free agents next year. There will certainly be selections for safety, offensive tackle and linebacker this year but it wouldn't surprise me to see a defensive tackle, center/guard and a couple other spots to fill potential holes next year. Clark could get an enormous contract, something the Packers might not want to pay for a guy entering the back half of his career.

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golfpacker1's picture

April 03, 2024 at 09:06 am

Offer Clark a fair but not over the top contract. Or if we don't, then put a 2nd round tender on him. Some team will bite because he is still Top 5-8 @ his position. Let's just not strike out by not getting anything like with Bakh. If he does sign we can always trade him in a year.

If I was GB I would quietly contact the Rams and offer Clark for their first rounder. They have a huge hole to fill with Donald retiring. If that trade works, then use that pick on Byron Murphy.

Clark does have a $15 million dead cap hit in 2025.

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golfpacker1's picture

April 03, 2024 at 03:09 pm

Newest Mock-What do you think
31. Cooper Beebe-G Kansas State

41. Edgerrin Cooper-LB Texas A&M

58. Ruke Orhorhoro-DT Clemson

89. Jaylen Wright-RB Tennessee

91. Jaden Hicks-S Washington State

107. Cam Hart-CB Notre Dame

126. Zak Zinter-OG Michigan

135. Garret Greenfield-OT South Dakota State

166. Isaac Guerendo-RB Louisville

169. Myles Cole-EDGE Texas Tech

202. DeCamerion Richardson-CB Mississippi State

219. Nathaniel Watson-LB Mississippi State

220. Frank Crum-OT Wyoming

245. Tyler Owens-S Texas Tech

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