How inspiring is MLF when he time and time again looks like a lost puppy on the sidelines...like he's gonna cry...I know my wish that he would be fired wont come true for a year or two but im confident that it will one day...he dont have it as a head coach...plus his play calling sucks...I guess it wasn't all whipping boy AR...

At least we get to look forward to a top five draft pick. Lots of good QB picks coming up.

These kids do not quit. I respect that. Still 13 games left. Everyone knows we're not going to the Super Bowl this year. I can live with being 2-2.

I'm enjoying watching this young team grow.

Another first 3 quarter shit show.
20 total yards at the half! Wait, What ????
Total agreement about Romeo, a rising star for sure.
I like Mr Reed too but sometimes he scares me.
Jones 18 yards and Dillon 11 yards? Wait.... WHAT ???
I so wish I could "un-see" this game......

The MLF play calling and line play is going to get Love injured.

I guess Aaron Jones should have sat out,as MLF seemed to have no use for him.
Where is the Top 5 Defense, another 200+ yard game.
Love had some slow reactions. Luckily, the Game Clock guy dozed off at the end of the 3rd quarter and saved a play.
The Lions are biting kneecaps, and it isn't a joke anymore.
The faith that I thought had grown was tossed into the crapper this week.
Love played a shit game, though excuses will be bountiful.
The coaching staff needs to put themselves on notice.
The Raiders aren't looking so easy now.

I was expecting a hot and cold offense that shows promise and also some maddening inexperience and a mediocre defense. That's what we're getting. It's going to be an up and down season.

I am still stoked being a Packer fan. I like the players on this team and they will only grow from this and get better.

I hope the coaches do the same...what surprised me the most is the special teams miscues and the slow starts in the first half recently. I wasn't able to watch the game so I couldn't rely on anything I saw personally.

Injuries suck but all teams experience them and have to persevere. This will all play out and I am excited that Love is our QB.

I am happy that Gutey has a vision and is able to construct a team that will bring prominence back to Titletown, at some point.

GPG,

burp

Boy do we need some offensive line help and fast. Better think aboút trading for Bak's replacement. At least the offense showed some life in the second half. Give credit to the Lions whose toughness the Packers should try to emulate. It's a long season folks..

Totally agree with so many comments, Aaron, except one! Don't burn the tape! In fact, keep playing it over and over again for the players...especially the lack of effort at times. It's a young team and they have to learn. LaFleur and Barry have to take a lot of blame too. As I stated previously, it's insane to believe you will have linebackers bite hard on play action when you do not run the ball....hence the interception. That route has to be ran deeper in that situation, otherwise. Also there was a ton of ONE-man short routes. Jordan didn't have a chance when that person was covered. MLF you need to do your part too!

Last, the Lions really game-taped Douglas, taking advantage of his aggression. Douglas played hard though and I would not want to take away that aggressive style...just be smart.

Dan Campbell didn't play.
The comparison in Qbs is obvious.
And so is the Trench.
You were looking for a comeback.
And that wasn't going to happen.
The Lions own the packers.
And until you get rid of Gutey.
The best you can hope for is a play-off birth.
So blame MLF and Barry all you want.
He drafted for scheme instead of greatness.
The 3-4-4 is a dinosaur.
The only way you beat a top QB now.
Is playing the 4 -2- 5.
The only way you win the trench is with Tackles.
The Lions are what they are.
A better team than the Packers.

Detroit’’s for real. The Packers are’nt. I was amazed that the spread was 1 and most if not all the writers were predicting a Detroit win (well yeah), but in a close game. The Packers, from the front office to the coaches to the players, are what they are (mediocre), and all the hope and happy thoughts won’t change that. But it’s still football, and you gotta love that. Just bring more beer to the next game and start working on your mock drafts. GPG!!!

I never bet but I will now when the Packer have short week. MLF never has his team prepared on a short week off.

Last time we saw the fun side of rebuilding when it came up roses. This time we saw the trying side of rebuilding with a weak offensive line that was embarrassed.

I'm sure blame can be assessed to the coaching staff as usual, but the Packers are lacking physicality and stoutness on both sides of the trenches. All the athleticism doesn't really mean much when you can't run or stop it.

Lions: 43 carries, 211 yards; Packers: 12 carries, 27 yards. TOP: Won by Lions 38-22. Rushing first downs: Lions 13, Packers 2.... Obviously not a winning formula here.

I'm disappointed by the loss, but the truth is that Detroit is further ahead of us in their rebuilding efforts and right now they're a better team with a better coaching staff and a more experienced QB.

Debacle, disaster whatever you want to call it. Out coached and out played again. Physically lost the LOS on both sides of the ball.

It was good to see the Packers come out with some fight left after halftime and after they had been pulverized in the first half. However the backwards pass and another stupid penalty by Walker killed any chances for a late rally by the Packers.

Love, Rodgers, Montana, Unitas or any QB could not have been effective behind the Packers OL the way they played tonight. They were totally manhandled again. Where was the run game? Was there even a game plan?

A terrible job of preparation by the coaching staff. I realize it was a short week but the Lions were clearly ready to play.

The Packers just were not ready for prime time. That’s part of having a young team and numerous injuries.

Burn the tape enjoy the mini bye and move on. MLF has tons of work to do. The Packers were badly exposed on both sides of the ball. STs had their moments also. Why is Nixon returning kicks from 5+ yards deep in the end zone??? What was Reed thinking on that punt return? WTF??? Where’s Bisaccia?

Tough night. Moving on from here but to where or what? At least we have the Titletown District. Thanks, Since ‘61

Love is fair. Not totally lost out there but certainly not heir apparent yet. Just not sure he has the passing skills. One long pass to Reed doesn't make up for the misses.
I'm staying with my call that MLF is the problem. Yes, there have been a lot of injuries but 2 weeks in a row of getting embarrased (last week's win was a lucky bad kick). Yet another "burn the tape" week?
Young receivers looking better and better.

A young team that needs this early bye to regroup and recover after college life. Two games in October to learn and heal must set the tone for another year of Packers football. The next CEO is crucial to this organization.

Play calls, trickery, schemes, and illusions of complexity are just no substitute for physical toughness. We don’t have it and haven’t had it much under MLF. Now, the former can win games but when going against physical teams that can exert their will on you it doesn’t usually end well. Maybe we can out-execute our way to a wild card slot, but defense and ass-kicking wins championships and

"Out-coached" - Sure seems like it.
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"Barry is happy to let teams march" - So is MLF.
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"special teams got worse" - Reed giving his Amari Rodgers impression. Who is in charge?
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"no way Sean Rhyan is worse" - But he was sitting the pine.
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"surprised they didn't pull Walker" - Really? Do you expect in-game adjustments?
= See a pattern? Time for a new coaching staff? We have too much talent to be playing so poorly. Yes, we are young, but that poorly? Come on!!!

It's amazing that after all this time, all of the first round defensive draft picks, we still can't stop the run. This team is undisciplined and can do little right at this moment.

The special teams have been more harm than good this season as there is a penalty on every other kick/punt return and Nixon, while I appreciate his tenacity, is doing this team no favors with his returns. He's cost the team well over 100 yards of field position this season and is constantly taking 6-9 yards deep and ending up short of the 25 instead of just taking the touchback. The one bright spot is Carlson, who has been absolutely lights out through 4 games.

The passing game is extremely erratic and it's either firing on all cylinders or it's nothing but incomplete passes for entire quarters on end. Love is throwing contested balls on almost every pass attempts early in games and has the most defended passes in the NFL by far. He misses open wide open guys and when they're not open, they can't make the contested catches like other teams seem to do to us on a weekly basis. The offensive line has been very good pass blocking for the most part but has been horrendous in the run blocking aspect for the entire season. Today, the dam finally broke. Love was under constant pressure and Lefleur couldn't figure out how to stop it until the game was 20 points out of reach. Not to mention they didn't even attempt to TRY running the ball on the first two drives and they got themselves in a hole really quick because of it. This team NEEDS to stay ahead of the chains because it seems as if any play goes backwards, it spells doom for the offense. I thought that was going to come to an end when Rodgers left, but I guess I was wrong.

Don't even get me started on the defense. I get it, it's hard to tackle often and it's even more difficult when your offense doesn't perform well. BUT, every single year we dump loads of money and draft picks into the defense and there are never any results. Pass rush, better than last year and having Gary back is a huge boost, but it's nowhere near where it should be.
I also get that the guys are young and there are going to be growing pains, but giving up 40+ carries and 200+ yards on the ground every week is a great recipe for a losing record. Walker almost tied the NFL record for tackles in a single game today for crying out loud. The amount of missed tackles as a whole is absolutely atrocious as well, as every single play it looks like it will be a stop for a minimal gain, only to watch the RB slide through a hole and get 6 yards before he's touched.

There are a lot of things to look forward to, but this team has a lot of growing to do before they are actually contenders.

? Why was A Jones activated and so little touches?? Saw the same in Game 1 vs Bears?? until 2nd half? He was a non factor Y????

In this game everything Wahle said might be a problem was a ding ding ding what do we have for our winner.

https://youtu.be/vc-Q8EExxaY?si=ajmf9h6ZlNW9Yyro

Exposed! - Like I said, the OLine isn't near what everyone thought it was. Bakh was never going to play much. 2+ years people. Now...Probably last time as a GBP. Great career, but done. I also understand Jenkins was disappointing loss that effects the whole line, but ... The rest, average at best. Time to stop expecting the Packers to develop 4th+ rounders to play above expected. Offensive coaches, I believe, have known this, but flat out refuse to draft better or try better options at positions. It's either arrogance or ignorance. Next year has to be high round draft choices for Oline and running game scheme changes. The obviousness of this is truly astounding.

Stop the Barry excuses. D wasn't gassed by the 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th Defensive series. I don't care what the O did. No way the Defensive struggles are on the Offense not getting off the field that early. Why would they not be in shape by now? Get real apologists. Terrible positional football. Real Defenses don't get run over like that continually from the get go. Try your best to effort at statistical gymnastics. Outside the 1st series...dominated.

Watson and Jones were not full strength. This was pretty obvious from the start. Re-watch. Watson wasn't even running, but jogging routes at the beginning. Packers were not able to stretch the field at the start. Although, It wouldn't really even have mattered. The Oline can't pass block a better pass rush or run block anyone. Again, don't mistake this for excusing the Defense. Truly, apologists' apologies fall on deaf ears.

Love was bad. Love was sometimes good, but after Lions went prevent. First year, duh. I put more blame on MLF not getting him outside of a continual collapsing pocket to make some plays on his own. Sometimes scramble plays can create a defeatist attitude on a defense. Let him try.

Don't care about Walker's penalty. I don't care if he knew the rule or not. It was too late. He was about the only defensive player still trying his best all game. He tried to bring intensity all game. Good on him.

Anders...a lone light that was thought to be a probable game loser. So far, a bright spot.

Packers got 4 games that are winnable. LV, Denver, Vikings, and Rams. They could still be 6-2 by then. All is not lost. Still lot of season left.

Such a disappointing effort by the D-Line. It’s big trouble when you can’t stop the run.
I was initially enthused when we hired MLF, but for more than a year, I believed he’s an empty suit. He gave tough guy interview with the sideline reporter after halftime, but he’s not a Billy-Bad-A$$ and it came across as artificial.
I don’t know whether to hug or kick Love.
Dillon, Newman, and Barry—put them on a raft in the Pacific Ocean with a block government cheese.
Better days are coming—I think?
Go Packers!!!

When David Montgomery outrushes Aaron Jones, you know we have the wrong gameplan.

The empty backfield alignment is best used on short-yardage situations because the ball has to come out quickly (reduced QB protection). So, why do we go empty backfield on 3rd-and-long so often? I would like to think MLF has a better football mind than me.

Trading for Jonathan Taylor would be a waste of his talents; even he couldn't do much on 5 touches per game.

Would any Packers beat writer have the guts to ask MLF why, with 8 first round picks on defense, he chooses to play conservative defensive?

However, I will also add that this is what the youngest roster in the NFL with a first year starter at QB and 2 pro bowl offensive linemen out looks like; it's not pretty, but it's also not hopeless.

Its gonna be a long, up and down season folks....

Its a young team with a pretty much a total rebuild on offense. As for defense.... Ford is a 1st time starter, Nixon as well. Nobody on the line has starting experience beside Kenny C. Gary is still on a snap count, Campbell and Alexander out. Lots of inexperience there too.

Also fuck the boo birds at Lambeau....entitled, whiny band wagon riding fucks...4 weeks into a rebuild with the youngest team in the NFL and they are pissed off that we arent dominating the NFL...Do not act like fair weather Vikings fans...we gotta have patience....

Hopefully we see a switch on the Oline. This group is not working. They need to start benching people.

So— a team is a reflection of their coach to some extent. Dan Campbell is a tough SOB. LeFleur is an eyebrow groomer.
Just saying. 

Bottom line. The Packers are softer than a baby's butt compared to the Lions.

This team will not be any better until we have 11 first rounders on defense taking the field at the same time. 2028 should be the mark for Barry to finally get the talent he needs to produce a top 25 defense.

Was at a local packers bar. Holy hell, there are a lot of Lions fans all of a sudden. I guess climate change brought the end of their hibernation.

the Lions were so well prepared that they might as well have been in our huddle. they knew MLFs play sheet and script better than the Packers did. Again we were not ready to play. it took a half to wake up a bit this time, three quarters the game before that. and the person who posted how we can still be playing a 3-4 D or often a 2-5 D is beyond me. the only thing to like is that we might have a very good receiving corps, best in ages.

Calm down everyone.....
There not going to fire Lafleur mid season
There not going to fire Gute mid season
Packers are in the second yr of rebuild ( high draft picks )
Lions are in there 4th year of rebuild year ( top ten draft ) picks
Love is still the future they need to protect him
They will let DC Barry go at the end of year
Offence line will be priority of next draft
The Jets 2nd round pick is rising in the draft
Packers need a good showing vs the Raiders
They still have a favorable schedule
Could finnish above 500
All is not lost

Lions will fold somewhere along the line. Just a matter of time. Last night was their Super Bowl. The Packers and very young and inconsistent. Get used to it, that is what happens with a new team and remember we still have some significant injuries and parts missing due to that. The Packers as they get healthier will win more games. Yup they looked like Jr College team last night!

Wishing And Hoping was a #1 Song by Dusty Springfield in 1964 and has been the Theme Song for the Green Bay Packers Defense since LaFluer and Gutenkunst arrived. Hard to believe per the last paragraph that it took 4 years for the Coach & GM to see reality.

Since LaFleur became head coach, do you know how many teams have a defensive rush EPA per snap above zero? Thirty-one. The one team that doesn’t? The Packers. Dead last in run defense effectiveness since LaFleur became head coach, and dead last since general manager Brian Gutekunst officially became GM in 2018. “We’re going to have to do something different,” LaFleur said Thursday night when told the Packers have allowed more than 200 rushing yards in both losses this season. “Because it’s insane to do the same things over and over again and expect a different result.”

Intensity...Intensity... Intensity
Dan Campbell, that is what he coaches since starting in 2021
He knew he lacked talent but demanded extreme effort ( intensity )
As he added talent the new players bought into the ( intensity of there style )
Detroit has drafted and added players who match Campbells extreme only style
Did you notice the intensity level of play by Aldan Hutchinson, and others
Did GB match there intensity Thurs? Or play with that kind of intensity
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Intensity if not from coaches must come from veteran players
Young unconfident players are more worried about assignments
Rather than gearing up for violent competition
Lack of extreme intensity at the beginning of game means
Poor performance, mental mistakes, lack of aggression
Somehow Confident Intensity coming through veteran leadership must show up
Especially at the beginning of the games

Hey!
Where's the Good, the Bad and the Ugly?
The Good=2nd half comeback. You just can't dig a whole that deep and expect to climb out
The Bad=another bad half. Stat: They had 9 first downs when we had nine yards.
The Ugly=An O-line that went from touted to taunted in a month. Run game gone; pass blocking now totally unpredictable. Effect on Love devastating. More pressure=more sacks=more errant throws=more picks=you-know-what.
The Szotman