Free Agency Opens: Packers Options
By Ross Uglem
Free agency, well the "legal tampering" portion of free agency has officially opened. Green Bay has something in the area of $21 million in cap space after the Randall / Kizer trade. If you believe recent reports (and the earlier comments of Packers GM Brian Gutekunst) they're going to be aggressive. There are also multiple avenues for Green Bay to create cap space without releasing key players so they do have a multitude of options.
According to @Jason_OTC, the #Packers can save...
$15.4M by extending Aaron Rodgers
$7.9M by extending Clay Matthews
$13.3M by extending both Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.— Zachary Jacobson (@ZachAJacobson) March 6, 2018
So let's kick things off by ranking a few of Green Bay's best fits in free agency. I'll take into consideration not only the quality of the player, but their age and Just for fun we'll rank the top 13 options. One for each World Championship. Maybe with the right mix of free agent additions, the Packers can capture number 14.
1. Aaron Colvin
Colvin is incredibly underrated. Think of Colvin as Al Harris, just over a decade later. Harris was the third cornerback on an Eagles team that had the legendary cornerback tandem of Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent. AJ Bouye and Jalen Ramsey are probably even more talented than those two, and may get a ton of credit for Jacksonville's success. That credit may depress the market value for Colvin, even if just a little. Given a starting job opposite Kevin King, Colvin could flourish. Colvin's biggest detraction is his size (5'11"), but King (6'3") can easily be asked to match up with taller receivers if Pettine sees fit. He's my top fit for the Packers Market Value / Years Expected: 4 years, ~$9.5M per
I can't get excited about any of these young cornerbacks on the market other than Aaron Colvin.
— Legal Tampering Justo (@JuMosq) March 10, 2018
2. Muhammad Wilkerson
Wilkerson is the ultimate risk/reward package. As long as we're doing comparisons to great signings of Packers past, think of Charles Woodson. Woodson was considered a malcontent in Oakland but it was clear that he had All Pro talent. Wilkerson has been second team All Pro twice already in his career and is just 28 years old. A three or four year deal woudl get Green Bay all the way through his athletic prime as a defensive lineman. Because of the way Wilkerson left New York (and the way played last year), he will not command what a 28 year old player with his talent level should. Reuniting with Mike Pettine could ressurect his career at a cap number that provides incredible value. 3 years, ~$10.5M per
Really like the job here Wilkerson does of playing the run. Under control, good separation and finds the ball. Really good base as well pic.twitter.com/TheKL1cbq9
— Packers Film Room (@PTTF_ChalkTalk) March 6, 2018
3. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
DRC has depressed value. There's no question about it. He's been released from the Giants and is 32 years old. His play dipped a bit last season, but was still likely better than anything put on film by the cornerback group in Green Bay. The last deal he signed was 5/$35 in 2014. That $7M AAV in today's market is requisite of a starting cornerback. If Green Bay can do better than that on a one or two year deal because of his age and the way that he left the Giants, they'll potentially capture a market inefficiency. He shouldn't be GB's only CB signing though, just a complementary one. 2 years, $6M per
4. EJ Gaines
Gaines isn't as well known as the higher end of the cornerbacks group in free agency, but he's a high quality player. Gaines ranked 13th in Pro Football Focus' player grades at the CB position out of 121 qualified cornerbacks. A lot of that has to do with his .82 yards per coverage snap and his passer rating against of 74.8. He's not real big, or a great athlete, but he's an excellent football player. His low-ish profile should help him be relativley affordable to the Packers. He's 26, too so they should feel comfortable with a long term deal. 4 years, $9M per
1v2 & EJ Gaines wins this battle on the WR screen. #Bills #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/nupzFFAtCh
— Nick Wojton (@Nick_Wojton) November 26, 2017
5. Allen Robinson
I just happen to think that Robinson is "that dude". Not all Packers signings have to be based on a "bargain". I would certainly hope that Green Bay would be careful and considerate of the numbers that they committed to him, but he's a true #1 wide receiver and has the ability to stretch the field. He was one of my favorite receivers in that class and would mesh with Davante Adams flawlessly. He's arguably the top receiver in this class and won't come cheap, but if Gutekunst wants to make the Packers offense "unfair" Robinson would be that guy. Just be prepared to pay and then immediatley deal with the Cobb/Nelson situation. 5 years, $13M per
More Allen Robinson from ‘16 — Pivot route. That’s pretty nasty. pic.twitter.com/TUS5KDS2L2
— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) March 10, 2018
6. Terrelle Pryor
Pryor suffered a terrible injury, and went from awful QB play in Cleveland to very average QB play in Kirk Cousins and Washington. Pryor's value is likely never going to be lower. He is a perfect fit as a red zone threat, outside receiver and player that has shown flashes of ability. On a one year, prove-it style deal Pryor could come into Green Bay, succeed, and then evaluate whether he wants to succeed Nelson and or Cobb as they come off the books in 2019. Low risk and high upside for both sides. 1 year, $4M
7. Jimmy Graham
Graham is an enigma. Clearly one of the most talented tight ends whoever lived, Graham has had very real fluctuations in production ever since leaving the Saints. Russell Wilson is an excellent QB so the question has to be asked.... why? Rodgers might be the only QB in the league with more ability than Drew Brees, but can he form the connection with Graham that Brees did and revive his career? That's the big question. Graham offers basically nothing in the running game (part of the reason he didn't make a ton of sense in Seattle) and is likely headed back to New Orleans, but Green Bay has at least reached out. 2 years, $6.5M
League source: Jimmy Graham expected to sign with either Saints, in a reunion, or the Packers. Either way, long gone from #Seahawks. Too expensive for SEA.
— Gregg Bell (@gbellseattle) March 12, 2018
8. Justin Pugh
I like Pugh quite a bit, especially for the Packers. He's been reliable and versatile, which is key for a team that right now needs a starter at right guard (actually maybe not I think Kyle Murphy would be just fine) and a fill in guy at right tackle. I'm not convinced he's going to cost a ton of money. At 27 he's in his prime and could easily be offered a multi year deal with no problem at all. 4 years, $6M
9. Trey Burton
This is the one that all of the Packers fans are excited about. People love signing guys off the Super Bowl Champs. Burton is an effective tight end but was overshadowed by Zach Ertz in Philadelphia. He certainly has the ability to be a TE1. The problem is that the Packers aren't the only ones that are going to be looking at Burton. I think he is going to reach flavor of the week status and likely sign an inflated contract. That still doesn't mean he's not an excellent fit for the Packers and their offense. 4 years, $7.5M
#Eagles TE Trey Burton is pretty athletic and could be an affordable option for the #Panthers in free agency... pic.twitter.com/KVO7s6BNpU
— Panthers Source (@PanthersSource) March 1, 2018
10. Malcom Butler
Butler is potentially the top available cornerback in this class, and has served the New England Patriots as such ever since the departure of Darrelle Revis. Whatever in the world happened before the Super Bowl has to be vetted. There's no question about that. Still, at the end of the day, Butler is an elite player at a position the Packers are desperately in need of players. If Butler wants to continue winning, Rodgers and the Packers are an ideal place for that to happen. Cost will be an issue, but Butler can play. 4 years, $13M
11. Tyler Eifert
Eifert is potentially the most talented tight end in this entire group of free agents. When he's at his best he's a more talented version of Kyle Rudolph, and Packers fans have seen plenty of him. The issue has always been, and continues to be health. Eifert just can't stay on the field. Can you imagine, though, going from Andy Dalton to Aaron Rodgers? Maybe the Packers could keep him on a snap count. Anything to get him through a season in one piece. 1 year, $6M
12. Orlando Scandrick
Just released by the Cowboys, Scandrick is a nickel corner who would excel in Damarious Randall's old role. It's also possible that he would come in at a bargain. 2 years, $5M
13. Trumaine Johnson
Often the player most linked to the Packers, Johnson is not my favorite. He was exceptional as a rookie, had a few down years, was better in 2015, then pretty average over the course of the next two seasons. Don't get me wrong, average is better than what Green Bay has had at the CB position for the last few years. Even though, that's true I don't need the Packers to pay $13M a season for average. Now if Pettine can squeeze better out of him, great. I believe that's a thing that can happen. His QB rating against in 2015 of 55.0 was second best in the league, to just Josh Norman and he's only 28. I just don't know how excited I can get about a player whose current team worked so very hard to replace. 4 years, $13M
@Trujohnson2 come to GB and you get the opportunity to pick this dude off twice a year pic.twitter.com/yFrIqdI5Xk
— (@TrashLikeCapers) March 11, 2018
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Ross Uglem is a staff writer for Cheesehead TV. He can be found on Twitter @RossUglem
Comments (99)
Ryan Graham
March 12, 2018 at 02:09 pm
A lot of talent and opportunity to pick from. Need to make cap room...Need to address both talent and depth on both sides of the ball....but even more so importantly bringing in a defensive leader. I don't see what defensive leadership they had in Burnett returning, I think it would have been done by now. Defense needs someone to take accountability for the entire defensive unit.
Ross Uglem
March 12, 2018 at 02:41 pm
probably gonna be Mike Pettine, TBH.
jeremyjjbrown
March 12, 2018 at 05:12 pm
Nice writeup Ross!
I really like the ideas of Colvin and Pryor. I think they will be good values. What about Tramon Williams for depth though? he graded well last season and would be a great backup and true pro to provide and example to the young guys.
croatpackfan
March 13, 2018 at 03:10 am
Tramon is washed. He played well for Packers and I want to rtemember him by that. From NFCCG when he was responsible for that OT TD, his play is at quick down spiral...
jh9
March 12, 2018 at 02:38 pm
I got my popcorn!
Ryan Graham
March 12, 2018 at 02:52 pm
Honestly I think he's gonna be a huge part of that and I'm tired up over what he brings. I still feel like they need a guy in the game to do that. Mike Daniels needs to be apart of that, Matthews has never been that guy I don't see that changing. If Blake Martinez wants to step his game up he will not only take that next step forward, he will hold everyone else to that same standard. They need a dog out there that not only carries a big stick but expects everyone else to bring it too and will call out those who don't.
EdsLaces
March 12, 2018 at 02:45 pm
Don't forget about Breeland.
Ross Uglem
March 12, 2018 at 04:11 pm
meh.
EdsLaces
March 12, 2018 at 05:00 pm
Meh? Is that code for younger than DRC and more talented than Gaines?
HankScorpio
March 12, 2018 at 02:50 pm
Now that the legal "tampering" period has opened, the Packers have been linked to Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins (by Ian Rapoport) and Jimmy Graham (by Mike Garafolo) so far.
Interesting to see offense first. I wonder if the Robinson and Watkins thing is real or just an attempt to squeeze Nelson and/or Cobb in extension talks.
John Ramble Kirk
March 12, 2018 at 05:32 pm
I was thinking about this. Perhaps, they decided Aaron needed VETERAN help on offense. We know he hasn't clicked with a lot of young guys. So, adding 3 guys who know how to play and Aaron won't have problems with makes some sense.
Sadly, Ha Ha spoke to veteran void on the defense but it sounds like they have decided to handle the O via FA and the D in the draft, IF the rumors are true.
EDIT: I wish we could know what's going on with the guys with the bloat. I don't believe we want to extend Nelson, Cobb or Matthews, as they aren't in long term plans. I don't believe Brian wants to cut any of them. I believe the players want their money as it looks now for next year. An impasse that will keep things as is and then they'll all be off the books after 2018.
If we can get AROB and or Sammy, then Brian will be forced to cut Cobb and Nelson. Who would you rather have? AROB off ACL and Sammy or Nelson and Cobb? I'll take the first pairing. What would Aaron think? I can't imagine the cost would be all that different for either pair.
EDIT: It's pretty funny, at least to me, that the 4 guys I've heard us linked to from national voices, not home media, were: Richard Sherman, Jimmy Graham, Allen Robinson, and Sammy Watkins. What do all 4 have in common? They're either currently injured or have lengthy injury histories. Sniffing for those deals. I picture Brian pressed up against the window in his office, just like the Badger car salesman... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPigcNxXVog
dobber
March 12, 2018 at 06:37 pm
" What would Aaron think?"
If you like theories, what if the ARod/BG conversation has included a line where ARod says: I'll give you a cut rate if you get me some high-end pass-catchers to throw at?
Let's be honest...if they sign one of those guys (Robinson or Watkins), either Nelson or Cobb is immediately on the street, so how much cap (at least for 2018) would would he really be taking up?
"What do all 4 have in common? They're either currently injured or have lengthy injury histories."
There's a reason why they're on the street...
John Ramble Kirk
March 12, 2018 at 07:40 pm
I like it dobber. I like it uh lot. Perhaps, it's true. A commitment to the offense is as important as it is to the defense. TE is as bad as CB. WR's are not good. We need a true #1. Robinson would help. I like Watkins speed element for big plays that have been missing. How could Aaron not like having that pair?
croatpackfan
March 13, 2018 at 03:13 am
dobber, there is no discussion between Aaron and Gutekunst. Aaron is not even sitting at meeting. His agent negotiate with Packers, so, nice wishes, but with no reality there...
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 07:56 am
It's fun to imagine it, though, eh?
croatpackfan
March 13, 2018 at 09:26 am
Yeah, it might be more easier for teams...
Johnblood27
March 13, 2018 at 10:35 am
If Aaron really fells like your post states, his words would be brought to BG by his agent.
That is what agents are for.
That line of communication keeps bad feelings from developing between star player and management . That is the role lawyers take, they are called advocates for a reason.
HankScorpio
March 12, 2018 at 06:50 pm
I have been wondering if they want to stand pat with their pass catchers or revamp things a little bit. I've said it before a lot and I don't want to sound like a broken record, but their offensive output in most of their playoff losses have been less than optimal. The Packers have scored 24+ and lost just twice in the playoffs with Rodgers-. Neither are real recent-in 2012 & 2009. Why not give Rodgers every bit of help you can?
Bert
March 12, 2018 at 04:43 pm
I would like either Watkins or Robinson for sure. No thanks on Graham though. He was very good with the Saints but pretty much a JAG with Seattle. Let's not overpay for a guy who hasn't played good football for a few years regardless of his reputation.
kevgk
March 12, 2018 at 02:50 pm
A number 1 CB does nothing against a number 2 receiver. I rather see a good trio of corners with depth and some coverage LBs than one big splash signing. Colvin or Gaines plus a cheap veteran like williams will be better for the team than Butler or Johnson. Especially with a high DB draft pick.
I also thing a TE will make a bigger difference to the team than another WR of similar talent. They could cut Cobb and sign Burton and save money.
jh9
March 13, 2018 at 08:06 am
If BG can sign E.J. Gaines, Mo Wilkerson, and Sammy Watkins, draft an edge rusher in the 1st round (like Landry or Davenport), a TE in the 2nd Round (like Goedert, Hurst, or Gesicki), and a slot CB with the first pick in the 4th round, he'll be my hero.
Can you imagine Aaron Rodgers having Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, and Sammy Watkins running down the field as targets? Throw in a rookie TE like Goedert, Hurst, or Gesicki, with Montgomery coming out of the backfield, and you'd have defensive coordinators changing their Pampers. It would be the NFL equivalent of Phi Slamma Jamma.
That would be fun to watch.
Update... Nagler reports the Chiefs have signed Watkins. Pretend this post never happened.
Royalty Free GM
March 12, 2018 at 03:02 pm
Johnson, Wilkerson and Graham/Richardson for 26-28M?, yes please.
croatpackfan
March 13, 2018 at 03:14 am
No Jimmy Graham. Noooooooooo
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 04:48 am
You’re right.
Doug Niemczynski
March 12, 2018 at 03:15 pm
Dreamer your just a little dreamer. Can you put your hand inside your head oh no...
JerseyAl
March 13, 2018 at 10:45 am
You can go dream your manic dreams somewhere else, Doug, because your ass is out of here. Door. Ass. Out.
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 01:47 pm
While hardly a Jerry Maguire moment, I'll take my ball and leave with Doug but not because Doug has been banned.
I asked Ross for a little more as to why he liked Colvin so much and brought up some points that indicated he was actually not a good fit. (zone CB vs. press man that Pettine prefers, and Al Harris was) No interceptions in 4 seasons. That post is gone. I understand Doug is gone for his contentious interaction with a writer, but asking simple questions shouldn't cause censorship. Doug was wrong in his presentation but right at the heart on some of the things he said here in this thread. No fan will ever be banned for drinking too much koolaid but one will who is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Doug is no less a fan than anyone here. We all express in our own ways. Shoot, Spock just ripped Corey for being the worst writer here which is fair. We have a poster who goes by "jerseyalisavirgin" spelled backward. Nothing done to that constant disrespectful poster who is rude and uncalled for with his personal attacks on others.
Outside of spammers and the occasional rival fan looking to cause dissension EVERYONE here loves the Packers. Being challenged is fine and fair especially for the writers here. Personal attacks are not. This site got that backward. The "fan friendly" feature shows exactly who this site is tailored and catered to.
JerseyAl
March 13, 2018 at 01:56 pm
Doug has a long history of yelling and screaming and disrespecting people on here. All I ask for is RESPECTFUL and sane discussion, I don't care if you are a Kool-Aid drinker or a constant critic. Consistently calling others stupid for their opinions will get you booted. I don't have the time to monitor every comment on here - I'm sure there is plenty I miss. If your comment is gone, it's only because it was part of Doug's thread and the system deletes the whole thread. Doug is gone. The virgin guy is gone too. If you feel you need to leave in protest, that's up to you.
jh9
March 13, 2018 at 03:49 pm
Al, you run a great site. You have my support and gratitude.
John, don't leave. You're one of the few posters who has original thoughts and can write. We need more posters like you.
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 04:04 pm
Thank you for taking the time to give me an explanation even though I didn't deserve one. I understand this is a site owned by you, and you're free to do as you please, as I am in the case of wanting to leave over perceived censorship. I'm glad to read my post was not removed for censorship purposes, because I wouldn't want to be part of a site that operated that way.
jh9...thank you for the kind words. As long as I can be me there's no reason to go. If I feel I have to tiptoe around to play the game, I just couldn't do it.
Lare
March 12, 2018 at 04:35 pm
I don't care who they sign or re-sign as long as they aren't overpaid, they are productive and they aren't another slow, often-injured player on the downside of their career.
That's the main reason I don't want them to extend Nelson, Cobb, Matthews and Bulaga. All that does is dump more money for less production in the future.
Listen to Vince.
Royalty Free GM
March 12, 2018 at 05:28 pm
I’m sticking with Trumaine, Wilkerson and Ridley. That is so achievable and makes team more competitive in all levels.
I’m afraid all we get is old, slow, often injured Graham and 35-40M Rodgers.
stockholder
March 12, 2018 at 07:48 pm
I think Colvin is an excellent choice. He would free up the #14 pick. The Packers could Pass on House then. Pay him! Not a Graham fan. WERE NOT AN OLD MANS GRAVE YARD. I like Wilson at TE as a bargain, over the others. Then they could gamble on Wilkerson.
worztik
March 13, 2018 at 10:32 am
I like Colvin too, from what I’ve heard!!!
worztik
March 12, 2018 at 08:24 pm
Ya wanna know my idea and suggestion for getting us some more cap space and lots more cash to compete with the “Billionaires” that backload contracts and tilt the field in favor of their teams...??? We sue TT for embezzling talent from our team for over seven years, which when added up should actually fall into the Grand Larceny realm of the law and require him to pay us back by working the concession stands during our two home playoff games this year and every home game from this point onward! How’s that for a 2 sentence rant that at least comes up with a viable plan to help our team beat these big city bullies like Dallas and NE. Make that 2 1/2 rambling sentences... John, this rants for you, buddy! ;~€)
Handsback
March 12, 2018 at 09:20 pm
I think all Packer fans should not look for any signings until 2 weeks. Don't get all worked up and then be disappointed, understand it will be a process.
Spock
March 12, 2018 at 10:01 pm
Handsback,
A voice of reason. Thank you. "It will be a process". Two thumbs up for that. :)
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 05:34 am
I agree. There are seven NFL teams with over $60 million in available cap space at the start of free agency. You have to wait until after they throw a lot of money at a few players.
$14 million per year for a WR (Robinson) coming off a torn ACL ? I'm fine with the Packers passing on that deal.
Since'61
March 12, 2018 at 10:24 pm
Sign Allen Robinson, Jimmy Graham and Sammy Watkins. Offense done!
If there is any money left sign Wilkerson and DRC.
Draft for depth at OL, LB and DBs.
Thanks, Since '61
Chuck Farley
March 12, 2018 at 10:47 pm
Wouldn't the irony in all this speculation end up with Murphy giving marching orders: no big money for fa, extend Cobb, Mathews, beluga and Nelson cause Mike hates change, put our faith in the draft and find some developmental to fill cb.
In other words nothing is changing and those so called fa`s is fantasy.
All I know is this team needs a lot thanks to Ted`s incompetance.
Thegreatreynoldo
March 13, 2018 at 02:47 am
I spent several hours on a spreadsheet trying to devise a contract extension for CM3. Obviously, I made assumptions that could be wrong about what is good for the Packers and what CM3 might be induced to accept. Never found a win-win. I was always about $10M apart over 3 or 4 years.
I just don't see why CM3 would accept the 3-year, $24M type deal many suggest GB should offer. I think he can get that anywhere. If your employer said he is going to pay you an amount that every competitor would immediately offer, if not a lot more, would you take it? Maybe if you've got family or love it in GB and have to move for the other offer.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 04:55 am
It might be interesting to see what Pettine could do with Matthews.
But what about his groin and hamstring injuries? How many games he will be able to play? -> paycut?
Thegreatreynoldo
March 13, 2018 at 06:53 am
I guess I think your reply sums it up: intrigued by what your own DC (for us Pettine provides the new scheme) could do with a versatile guy like CM3, yet there are durability concerns. I ran numbers assuming that GB and CM3 had agreed that he is worth $7M AAV as well (a little less than what say Whitney Mercilus might get) and still had issues. That $11.368M is tough for CM3 to pass on if he can induce Gute not to cut him.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 03:08 am
I was hoping for this: It seems Bears will sign WR Robinson, which means they are probably not going to draft WR at #8.
It gives us better change to get Ridley.
Miami or Washington might be looking for WR too, so moving up couple spots might be necessary to get Ridley for sure.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 03:34 am
But moving up might not be an option when Bills moved to #12. They probably don’t want to move down after that move. And #10 spot may be too high(pricey) to make move.
We probably have to wait at #14...
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 08:03 am
It also appears that the Broncos are going to sign Keenum, which means...
1) they won't be a player for Cousins.
2) they likely won't be taking a QB ahead of the Packers.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 04:39 am
Sammy Watkins... injury proven player with not very good stats either.
http://m.espn.com/nfl/playerstats?playerId=16725
Let’s pass these injury proven players. We have had enough injuries already in the past years.
Bure9620
March 13, 2018 at 05:38 am
Robinson to the Bears, would Sammy Watkins be worth the money?? He'd be really dangerous with Rodgers.
NickPerry
March 13, 2018 at 06:09 am
I'd love Watkins in GB. Now if Graham didn't cost too much I'd be in favor of adding him but I think he wants to go to NO as long as Brees stays there. Matter of fact my favorite scenario would be restructuring Cobb and Nelson, signing Watson, and then adding a player or two on defense.
Signing Watkins would most likely mean the end of Randall Cobb unless both Nelson and himself renegotiated which would kinda suck. I LIKE Cobb, just not at the cap hit he'll cost the Packers this season.
Now what would be awesome would be while Minnesota is screwing around trying to sign Brees is the Jets swoop in and sign Cousins, Brees stays in NO and Minnesota once again is screwed and looking at Bridgewater as a best option.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 06:26 am
I think Watkins will be too expensive (with his injury history). Robinson went for 14M, so how much Watkins will be?
With drafting Ridley we get a fresh, better player with less money for many years to come. ARod will make this guy a star player.
Ps. I think Watkins just went to Chiefs for 16M?
Thegreatreynoldo
March 13, 2018 at 06:59 am
Rapoport: 3 yrs, $48M, $30M guaranteed at signing!!!!
Absolutely massive. And ridiculous. Sportrac estimated $9.2M and I thought that a trifle high.
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 08:05 am
Weren't the Chiefs already pretty tight up against their cap? I understand wanting to have weapons for their young QB, but wow. I'll be curious to see how they structured that deal, but if he's not much more than what he has been in his career, that's a tough one to swallow.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 05:57 am
Do we have any good alternatives for Wilkerson type of player(pass rush)? Inside or outside pass rush.
Without his previous connection to Pettine, I would not be sure about this guy. Is he going to act as a child or as a man? With Pettine I think he will act mature and would be a difference maker for the team.
Bure9620
March 13, 2018 at 06:33 am
Moncreif??
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 07:44 am
...or Jordan Matthews.
Donster
March 13, 2018 at 06:40 am
Looks like the Gute is having trouble signing any FA's. Allen Robinson is going to sign with the Bears. Sammy Watkins is signing with the Chiefs. Graham will most likely sign with the Saints. Suh will be overpriced. Money is speaking much louder than the chance to play with Aaron Rodgers. Gute will end up signing a few low cost FA's that no one else really wants. He is going to have to build up the team from the draft, just like TT. So we will be looking at another two years down the road for the chance to compete for a championship. Rodgers will want to be the highest paid QB in the league, which will further cash strap the Packers in the coming years.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 07:04 am
Too pricey. We need veteran CB more.
carlos
March 13, 2018 at 07:27 am
I agree with you Thegreat...All this will shake out in time and some of this excess money is mind boggling. There’s plenty of talent out there yet.
Thegreatreynoldo
March 13, 2018 at 07:06 am
Since I've yet to read about a Free Agent signing that hasn't struck me as about 50% too much money, I am fine with the current inactivity. If that 50% premium applies to Trumaine Johnson, we should pass on him too.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 07:14 am
Reynoldo, How much would you pay for Johnson, max?
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 07:40 am
"Looks like the Gute is having trouble signing any FA's."
Nobody has signed any of these FAs, yet. Until their name goes on the dotted line tomorrow, nothing's set. Still, for the silly money Watkins and Robinson are getting, they're doing the Packers a favor. I'll give Gutekunst credit for not blowing his wad.
carlos
March 13, 2018 at 07:07 am
Watkins going to Chiefs.
HankScorpio
March 13, 2018 at 07:15 am
3 yrs, $16 mil/yr for Watkins.
It's hard for a WR to play good enough to justify that kind of money.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 07:22 am
We have our own 15M guy, so we can compare in coming years...
carlos
March 13, 2018 at 07:30 am
Maybe Paul Richardson from Seattle would consider Green Bay? Haven’t heard anything on him yet.
pooch
March 13, 2018 at 02:48 pm
Signed
carlos
March 13, 2018 at 03:01 pm
Thanks Pooch
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 12:58 pm
Actually, Davante will be in the 16.6 range in a couple of years. Way too much for him but Watkins makes it a little easier to swallow.
Bure9620
March 13, 2018 at 07:21 am
Watkins is fast, but not a large catch radiius and does not catch that many balls for his targets. Not a $16 mil receiver. Robinson is a loss however......
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 07:28 am
that torn ACL? It is a big question mark.
If he is healthy... who will cover him twice a year?
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 07:35 am
Has never really lived up to his hype. Sure, he's had to deal with QBs like Tyrod Taylor and Jared Goff, and that gave optimism that he could flourish with a QB like ARod. For that kind of money, I'm not sad to see him go elsewhere.
Johnblood27
March 13, 2018 at 10:54 am
Hey!
If Arod has to "make him a star", why pay him all that?
Just get a fast, skilled young draftee and let Arod make HIM a star.
I just dont understand what in the heck some of you are trying to say...
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 07:39 am
This is good so far. If we would have overpaid Watkins or Robinson, we would not have change to sign Johnson AND Wilkerson.
They both are still available.
Don’t sign Graham.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 08:48 am
We should stay away from 8M-16M FA WRs.
If we really want to sign some FA WR (No need if we draft Ridley)... It should be in the range what Cobb’s real worth is now: 4-5M and replace him.
Donte Moncrief
Paul Richardson
Terrelle Pryor
Marqise Lee
Taylor Gabriel
If we don’t get any WR cheaply, it’s totally ok.
Lets put our FA money on defensive players Trumaine and Wilkerson if we can get them with reasonable money, about 25M total. And draft no1 receiver, Ridley.
Plus cut/restructure our overpaid quartet to free up FA money.
snowdog
March 13, 2018 at 11:06 am
Ridley Please
Chuck Farley
March 13, 2018 at 08:46 am
Looks like a lot of the guys of the list are already gone this morning. No word on any packer deals, seems like old times just new boss is all.
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 09:02 am
If "a lot" of the guys on that list is 3-4 of them, then maybe you're right. If the scuttlebutt we're hearing so far on contracts is right, the best values might not be on that list...
Marklindy62
March 13, 2018 at 08:52 am
So far the new GM has done little to nothing, lots of talk but no action - I hope that changes otherwise he is a younger version of TT.
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 10:07 am
This is the talk, and FA hasn't even really opened yet. Talk about short honeymoons...
Spock
March 13, 2018 at 09:36 am
As usual the early FA deals (when signed) are for huge sums of $$. People lamenting the Packers' signing of Davante Adams may not be the "ridiculous money" some people were lamenting. I'm glad Gute isn't going crazy in the early bidding; better value deals will be later as is typical for beginning FA days.
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 09:48 am
Packers linked to a lower-end TE:
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/03/falcons-packers-interested-in-...
Delvin Breaux also not tendered by Saints.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 10:26 am
C’mon Packers and Rodgers.
Let’s make history...
5 year / 100M FULLY GUARANTEED deal NBA style!
-> multiple Superbowls
Johnblood27
March 13, 2018 at 10:57 am
Richard Rodgers is not worth $100 million.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 11:17 am
Oh, I forgot Aaron. 101M FULLY GUARANTEED deal includes both.
Oz40
March 13, 2018 at 10:47 am
Bears signing Robinson and Burton.....so you are telling me the Bears are a more attractive free agent destination than Green Bay. Wow. Ted did more damage to the Packers brand than originally thought. Sad
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 11:28 am
Before today... almost every post here was about that we should aim for defensive FA!?
Today, it sounds like we should forget D# and get another 14M WR?!
We have to have some kind of vision of what we want.
dobber
March 13, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Window shopping is easy...
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 11:45 am
The Bears came into free agency with almost $63 million in available cap space, Green Bay is around $16 million.
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 01:03 pm
Yup...and why is there that disparity? We have 36 mil tied up in 18, 52 and 87. We could be as active but have chosen to remain the same. Brian has been anything but bold and more of the same old same old.
Bears have rookie deal QB for 4 more years. Vikings had the space to absorb Cousins 27 or 28 whichever it actually is over the next 3.
We're not the favorites in the NFCN anymore. I'm curious to see what Vegas does with the SB odds when Cousins becomes official.
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 11:49 am
Brees is signed, Cousins agrees to sign with Vikings- $84 million for 3 years which is around $28 million per year.
Everything is set up for Aaron to sign for $30 million per year.
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 01:07 pm
...and the worst part of that 30 mil will be the FULLY GUARANTEED part. Thanks Minnesota for that little poison pill.
Do we really want to pay 30 million guaranteed to Aaron IF we're just going to hold onto the status quo? It makes some sense if you're clearing dead weight but that doesn't appear, now, to be our plan. We seem to want to make a last hurrah with the old guard who we fell short with year after year.
It's time to decide... 30 million fully guaranteed to Aaron Rodgers given our overall status?
egbertsouse
March 13, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Who says Gutey isn’t doing anything? He just tendered Joe Callahan. Now we will never run low on bad back-up QBs.
John Ramble Kirk
March 13, 2018 at 01:10 pm
Thank you for a moment of levity in this all too familiar depressing time of the year for us Packers fans.
Wonder what MM thinks of this bold new FA approach?
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 02:42 pm
The scary part of re-signing Joe Callahan is that he isn't even good enough to replace Hundley. That's pretty bad.
Royalty Free GM
March 13, 2018 at 02:51 pm
goo.gl/rGqvBY
This site has a great list of FAs (bottom of the page) and it is updated regularly. Check it out.
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 03:19 pm
Colvin signing with Houston.
Lare
March 13, 2018 at 03:30 pm
Packers sign Jimmy Graham.
Ryan Graham
March 13, 2018 at 03:45 pm
At the expense of Jordy Nelson? does he resign?
TXCHEESE
March 13, 2018 at 03:55 pm
Jordy is a very good player, but let's face it, he is no longer the threat he was, especially at his current cap hit. Graham, when he's healthy is a very dominate TE, and a huge matchup problem for defenses. He's 31, but lot's of TE's play well into their mid to late 30's (Gonzales, Gates, Witten). If I'm Jordy, I take a pay cut, maybe with some incentives built in. He could see his production really rise with Graham and Adams taking attention off him.