Do the Packers Need a Veteran Receiver?
By jasonperone
The Green Bay Packers will enter training camp next month with a depth chart full of wide receivers. That has long been the story in Green Bay with many successful receivers coming and going over the last 30 years. But will it be enough this time around?
After Jordy Nelson departed in free agency, the Packers are left with Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, Geronimo Allison, Trevor Davis, Michael Clark and rookies J'mon Moore, Marques Valdes-Scantling and Equanimeous St. Brown.
Tight end Jimmy Graham will essentially be a receiver in the offense and may be the reason why the answer to the question is "yes". But opposite Adams on the outside, there is no clear favorite right now. and there isn't a lot of experience. Clark was given significant playing time in the season finale last year and could emerge with a solid camp.
The Packers are banking on at least one if not all of the rookie wide outs to crack the roster and give the position a huge boost. That would be the best case scenario. That would likely mean that they all performed well in camp and the preseason and are in sync with quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
But if any of them struggle or aren't ready for the big show, might the Packers need to consider adding a veteran wide out?
Among those currently available are Dez Bryant, Jeremy Maclin, Eric Decker, Harry Douglas and Dontrelle Inman to name a few. Bryant has already been widely discussed as a possibility to land in Green Bay. He turned down a multi-year deal with the Baltimore Ravens to wait it out and see if other options emerge for him.
Maclin, Decker and Inman have plenty of experience on the outside and likely could pick up the offense and contribute if needed. As time moves along, their price tags remain relatively low until a team suffers an injury. They could all provice decent value at this moment.
In order to add another receiver to the mix, the Packers would then have to stash at least one or two of those young receivers on the practice squad or let a few go. If rookie first rounder Jaire Alexander secures the punt return duties, Davis could become expendable.
If Clark isn't ready, he could end up back on the practice squad. St. Brown could also land there if he proves not quite ready to contribute this season. It's hard to determine if another NFL team would claim either of those two but it's always a risk to leave a player out there.
The other scenario is that the Packers try to keep all of the young receivers one way or another, add a veteran and short another position group to carry six or seven receivers. In order to do that, the young receivers would all likely need to contribute on special teams.
We'll have to wait and see how the preseason games turn out before we can really determine if the Packers need a veteran receiver, but how are you feeling about who they currently have? Would you be content if they went with who they have and didn't add any other pass catchers?
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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts. You can follow him on Twitter here
Comments (59)
PackEyedOptimist
July 02, 2018 at 06:06 am
First of all, Adams, Cobb, Graham, Allison and Davis already ARE "veterans." Those WRs also have at least two years of experience in the Packers' offensive system; they should be ahead of any of the options you'd get from other teams. Secondly, there is NO way I'm cutting Jordy and bringing in some other old receiver, NO way.
RCPackerFan
July 02, 2018 at 08:15 am
I would like more information. Please tell us more.
Bearmeat
July 02, 2018 at 08:23 am
Has anyone actually gone to their website? lol.
WinUSA
July 05, 2018 at 10:49 am
WTF is this doing on CheeseheadTV.....isn't there a screening process to get rid of spam like this.....and I am being polite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bearmeat
July 02, 2018 at 08:22 am
Jordy couldn't run anymore. It's just a fact. And I don't think that Allison or Davis are the answers. I don't think any of them can contribute at a WR3 level. And depending on late round rooks to contribute is foolish.
Jordy doesn't come into it. He's gone. I am of the opinion that we absolutely DO need a veteran WR. And a veteran OLB while we're at it. ;)
Tundraboy
July 02, 2018 at 08:39 am
It would be nice.
Johnblood27
July 02, 2018 at 10:40 am
not couldn't... he wouldn't... for hundley.
He gave up last year.
He didnt go full speed, when he made a catch he looked for a place to fall down.
He flat out quit on hundley and the team.
He will have a good year in Oakland and the second guesses will fly, but the fact that he flat out quit on the team made it imperative he leave GB.
His departure circumstances remind me of Gabe Wilkins and how the Pack jetisoned him to SF after he quit in the SB vs the broncos. He just quit due to the cut blocking he was receiving. His teammates saw that and he just had to go. Just like Jordy last year.
Since'61
July 02, 2018 at 10:41 am
Bearmeat - Excellent point about a veteran OLB. IMO that is a more important need than a veteran WR at this point. We have very little quality depth behind both our OLB and ILB starters. Maybe we can pick up at least a vet OLB during the preseason cuts. We'll see, but our LB depth is a concern. Thanks, Since '61
TarynsEyes
July 02, 2018 at 12:36 pm
" We have very little quality depth behind both our OLB ".....
Let me fix this for you....
" We have very limited quality in our two starters at OLB."
: )
Since'61
July 02, 2018 at 04:00 pm
Taryn - can't really disagree with your point. Although I would say that "our starting OLBs are limited due to their injury history and unlikely to make it through the season, therefore the question of our depth behind them is an area of concern". I don't think that CM3 and Perry are bad players (I don't think they are great either) they are just unreliable because they get injured. Thanks, Since '61
TarynsEyes
July 02, 2018 at 05:41 pm
Exactly why I put...limited quality....emphasis on both words separate or together. : )
Gianich
July 02, 2018 at 03:16 pm
Maclin. 1 year $3mill. Always productive, but always hurt. I'd be ok with that cept the hurt part...
Hawg Hanner
July 02, 2018 at 09:21 pm
Couldn't agree more. Randall Cobb still has to play up to his contract. If he can't separate any longer and starts to look a step slower he could be a surprise cut. I hope he has a pro bowl season but...……….
TKWorldWide
July 02, 2018 at 07:22 pm
The short answer is ‘no’.
stockholder
July 02, 2018 at 06:36 am
Why do we need another WR? We have the next Hall of Famer in Adams. He surly will be a 1000 yard WR this year. No one can catch him. He's going to make Arron Rodgers a MVP again. Cobb lost his razzle dazzle. But his salary is are only concern. Graham is are ace in the hole. His hands are the glue that will keep the chains moving. Monty will play everywhere. He's our next Iron man. And we have Allison and Davis ready to have a break out year. Then there's the rookies. Draft status only matters here. But a year on the PS can't hurt. No Panic or chaos at this position. So I think MM can come up with another surprise this year. I love pre-season!
Turophile
July 02, 2018 at 10:07 am
I'd argue that we need one or even two receivers capable of playing at the starter level. One outside receiver to play opposite Adams, and possibly a slot receiver to replace Cobb, after this season. Guys like Graham are a short term fix only.
The likes of Moore, Yancey, Clark, Valdez-Scantling, St.Brown, are all middle to long shots, to step up to one of the top three positions. I hope at least one of them makes it, I really do, but there needs to a plan for succession. That probably means a WR pick in the first two rounds next year, unless one of this/last years gambles pays off big time.
Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
Demon
July 02, 2018 at 10:09 am
Its one thing to be optimistic another thing entirely to be realistic. Your whole post was nothing more than wishful thinking.
Monty will play everywhere! I'd be satisfied if he was healthy enough to play MOST games. Contribute a few runs, a few catches, some blocking. History hss shown us that he cant stay healthy. Keep his snaps under 10 per game. Maybe, just MAYBE he could make it through the season.
Oppy
July 02, 2018 at 12:42 pm
His post was shrewd sarcasm, pointing out that preseason is the time of wishful thinking.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
July 02, 2018 at 05:56 pm
Fun to speculate on and discuss during this slow time, however there is NO WAY GBP signs an experienced WR now after drafting 3 WR's and picking up Graham. Zero!
Savage57
July 02, 2018 at 06:41 am
Which Randall Cobb we see in 2018 is the answer to this question. Will Packers fans see @2014 Randall Cobb, given this is a contract year? Or will they see @2015-16 Randall Cobb?
If you consider Adams, Cobb, Graham, Lewis Kendricks, Ty Monty, Allisavis as your viable veteran pass catching options, you pick the best 2-3 youngsters from camp bodies, put 'em on the 53 and coach the heck out of them.
It worked in the Driver, Jenning, Jones, Jordy era and should be tried again. If this idea of developing chemistry with Rodgers has legs, why not get a jump start on the process?
4thand10
July 03, 2018 at 05:54 pm
Jennings was a #2 pick, Jones was a #3 pic and Nelson was a #2 pic. If we had another Driver type coming out of camp it would be a Christmas miracle.
PAPackerbacker
July 02, 2018 at 07:09 am
The Packers have a pretty good receiving group. And they have 2 veteran TE's in Graham and Lewis who can contribute to the passing attack. And Ty Montgomery is a veteran who can contribute as a receiver. With Adams, Cobb, Allison, Davis, Clark, and the talented rookies that were drafted I think the Packers will be just fine at WR, especially with the best QB in the NFL leading the team. I don't think signing a veteran receiver is necessary when the Packers have a solid group of receivers. For sure the young receivers will have to contribute but they are a talented group and Allison, Davis, Clark, and Montgomery already know the system. The rookies will have to step up and contribute as well and they are talented. The Packers will be fine at the receiver position.
Rak43
July 02, 2018 at 01:23 pm
I agree PA, my only concern is Adams getting injured because while I believe Allison can step up and be a 3rd WR and possibly a 2nd I don't believe either he or Cobb could be their number 1 or any teams for that matter. If Adams gets hurt does the passing game stall as it did in 2015? Would they move Graham out wide to compensate? A lot of question marks should Davante get injured.
PAPackerbacker
July 02, 2018 at 03:27 pm
I see your point but Rodgers is the best in the NFL for spreading the wealth. He has done it so many times. For sure Adams must stay healthy throughout the season. But games have been won with Rodgers spreading the wealth and the Packers are one of the best teams in the NFL that can do exactly that. I believe in the younger players, and our coaches to bring out the best in them, but for sure nothing can replace experience. If the Packers have to rotate WR's because of injuries I think they have the depth to do it. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Go! Pack! Go!
Rak43
July 03, 2018 at 01:11 am
I believe in the younger players and coaches to develop them also. Although WR is a much harder position to learn in the NFL. Most fans don't understand that a college WR may only have to learn 5-10 route variations on plays for their playbook then get to the pro's and now they have to learn 150. It can be mind blowing for a lot of these kids coming out and that's why you don't see many rookie WR's have big seasons. Personally I think J'mon Moore has the best shot of seeing the field early if he can hold onto the ball in camp and earn Rodgers trust. He's an exceptional route runner with deceptive speed like Jordy. He's a long strider like Jordy and is very quick out of his breaks. He's also tall and is good at making contested catches. Imho, he's a better prospect coming out than Stefon Diggs was when he came out.
Guam
July 02, 2018 at 07:38 am
If we sign a veteran wide receiver now, we may not ever know if a young receiver will step up. Too many practice reps would go to the veteran and the young receiver(s) might not get the chance to blossom. Lets give the first 2-3 weeks of training camp to the young receivers and see what they can do. If there are still questions then, there will be veteran wide receivers still available.
Turophile
July 02, 2018 at 04:22 pm
Not to mention that any veteran receiver when everything has been picked over already, is both a short-term fix and unlikely to be even an average WR2.
Making no move at WR through training camp & preseason (and allowing the young WRs those reps) might indicate whether the Pack really NEED a veteran. They can still grab one at cutdown time, if none of the current young receivers show signs of stepping up.
Slim11
July 02, 2018 at 06:25 pm
These young WRs, including Allison, Clark and Davis, need more time with Rodgers throwing them the ball. A more accurate picture will emerge as training camp progresses.
The one WR I am concerned about is Trevor Davis. I'm concerned about his decision making on the field. Granted, his decisions were mostly during PR situations but if he makes similar decisions as a WR (#3?), do we want him on the field? I'm not sure I do.
porupack
July 02, 2018 at 07:43 am
No to bringing in another vet when the packers have brought in great prospects with size, speed and athleticism. Any new FA will only displace a draft pick.
Have faith in the coaches to get the rookies to perform. Afterall, Rodgers can make everyone around him better (as frequently stated on this site) and that includes receivers, I especially think.
I like the WR corps this year much better than past 5 years. I like Cobb and Adams as the experienced vets; a couple w moderate experience in GB system; Clark, Davis and Allison, and lots of potential in rookies.
Play the rookies and do the second part of the Draft-N-Develop philosophy, and fans stop fretting so soon after a strong cadre of prospects. The Draft and Develop works if:
a) screen for traits and character and aptitude
b) coach and mentor in a system that builds on high probable schemes.
c) put in challenging situations where the prospect can rise to the challenge, and believe in your new charge to produce.
Whether business or sports, some organizations continually produce outstanding results. It isn't a potion or luck.
If any vets are needed yet this season, maybe Oline. How about getting JEvans back. Vet experience on the Oline is a bigger impact on the team than at WR position IMO.
Since'61
July 02, 2018 at 07:49 am
I don't think that the Packers need a veteran wide receiver at this point. If the injury plague hits the WRs this season then yes another vet WR may become necessary.
I would prefer for the Packers to go with who they have and develop the young WRs over the course of the season. They have Adams, Cobb and Graham who for all intents and purposes is a WR. Plus we have Monty who can play from the slot and/or receive out of the backfield. With Allison, Davis and the 3 rookies we have depth. How good that depth is will be determined over time but let's see what we have before we add one of the vets available who may not be much better than one or two of our young WRs. Thanks, Since '61
Handsback
July 02, 2018 at 08:02 am
The only roster hole I see in the WR ranks is at the slot. Cobb is that smaller, quicker guy that gets seperation and gains the yardage when its 3rd and 5. IF and you notice its a big IF Green Bay needs another guy it would be a Cobb type clone. The only guy I see that might be able to do that right away outside of Monty, would be Harry Douglas or a Eli Rodgers. I think Rodgers may still be going through rehab....but he's the Cobb model WR that could be grabbed w/o a lot of money.
Thegreatreynoldo
July 02, 2018 at 10:44 am
Rogers had surgery for a torn ACL in mid-January of 2018. I gather he is still rehabbing. Pit didn't tender him as an RFA so he became a UFA. It appears that Pit still is hoping he can come back.
Harry Douglas was on IR most of the year due to a preseason knee injury, was activated in time for the November 26 and December 3 games. In those two games, he played 23 snaps and had 3 targets, 1 rec for 8 yards. Douglas was inactive on Dec 10, 17, 24, 31, January 5. He played 4 snaps in the divisional playoff round against NE on January 13. He played no ST snaps. He will be 34 in September.
I don't know these two really at all. They sound cheap and like they might be good guys to look at in-season. They are both tiny (180 pounds) and both had good 3-cone times, though Douglas' time was from 2008. While both Decker and Maclin have played slot, I agree that they're not really Cobb clones in that they are bigger and perhaps not as quick. I am not particularly looking for a slot WR though.
RCPackerFan
July 02, 2018 at 08:10 am
At this moment in time adding a veteran to provide veteran depth probably is the wise choice, but by doing so it can slow down the progression of the young WR's too. Every snap that the veteran takes in practice is one less that one of the 5 rookies or 2nd year players would get.
I don't think they will bring in a proven veteran unless Cobb's injury is significant enough that he will miss more time then first thought. I also don't think they are to concerned with the amount of talent albeit inexperienced talent, they now have at the position. Another reason why I don't think they are in a hurry to bring in a veteran WR is because they brought in Graham and Lewis at TE. And they have Montgomery at RB who can play WR.
I think they will see how training camp and preseason goes before they add any veterans.
I do like the group of young WR's they have. With Clark and Yancey returning to add to the trio of drafted WR's, the quality of depth as well as the size increased.
How soon will they be ready to contribute is the biggest question. With the changes being made to the offense they may not need to contribute right away. But hopefully one or 2 of them will step up early and contribute, and hopefully by seasons end they can find different roles for each of them.
Koostyroosty
July 02, 2018 at 08:22 am
Cobb's availability / health is the X factor. If he goes down for a period of time a veteran WR signing might be prudent - a la Andre Rison.
jeremyjjbrown
July 02, 2018 at 08:27 am
"Dez Bryant, Jeremy Maclin, Eric Decker, Harry Douglas and Dontrelle Inman"
Meh, let's wait and see who gets cut.
Thegreatreynoldo
July 02, 2018 at 10:57 am
Yep. I think we needed a boundary WR, but we didn't sign one. Gotta agree that if the candidates are Bryant, Maclin, Decker, Douglas and Inman, we should hope that someone gets cut. IDK Eli Rogers, but even he sounds more promising.
Looking at that "block" Jimmy Graham allegedly threw while brushing by Nick Perry (who proceeded to bury Wilson) makes me think we should stop putting the TE in front of his name. RR as a rookie might have been a better block than Graham. Graham is going to be in the slot, on the outside or at least flexed out. He should not play in-line lest MM insist on relying on him to block somebody.
Archie
July 02, 2018 at 09:25 am
Graham was not all that productive in SEA. Nor was Cobb in GB. Yet both are highly paid by Pack. Both may be gone from GB before start of next year.
Adams is a lock.
Everybody else is a big question mark. The 1st WR they drafted this year may be the one with the best chance to be at least #4 WR this year. Yancey, Clark and the other two amigos drafted this year all have a shot to make 53. Geronimo & Davis are marginal talents - unless they take a big step forward this year it is very unlikely either makes 53.
Unfortunately none of the current FA WR excite me either.
I think Pack is stuck with what they have for this year and that they will use a top pick on a #1 WR next draft.
God help us if Graham is a big disappointment coming off his highly 'experimental' surgeries & drug injections for pain relief. He is biggest risk we are looking at.
blue eyes
July 02, 2018 at 03:41 pm
800 plus yards and ten touchdowns isn't productive? Smh i do agree with you about Cobb but not Graham.
Thegreatreynoldo
July 02, 2018 at 09:39 pm
Blue eyes cited Graham's 10 TDs in 2017 but Graham actually only had 520 yards receiving, not 800. Graham played in all 16 games and ended up playing 730 snaps. That's a lot of TDs, but 520 yards doesn't sound like good production. I am hopeful that Seattle misused Graham. Sounds to me like Graham should not play in-line at all.
Graham did average 55 and 57 yards/game in 2015 and 2016 (so about 880 yards over a full 16 game season). It dropped to 32 yards/game in 2017. I've never really seen a good explanation as to the exact nature of the misuse. How did Graham's role change between 2016 in Seattle and 2017 in Seattle?
NickPerry
July 03, 2018 at 04:43 am
" I've never really seen a good explanation as to the exact nature of the misuse."
LOL....His name is Darrell Bevel.
oldpointer
July 02, 2018 at 11:07 am
Dowler, McGee, Dale at WR pl Kramer & Fleming at TE. We're set for receivers. Oh, wait!!
Lare
July 02, 2018 at 11:12 am
I think Ty Montgomery is the veteran WR that the Packers have added this year. He's no longer needed as a RB, he's healthy (so far), he knows the plays and has the "trust" factor with Rodgers.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
July 02, 2018 at 06:02 pm
Ty provides the Pack and MM a lot of depth and versatility at both WR and RB.
Charvid
July 02, 2018 at 12:42 pm
It appears as we come up to the beginning of TC, the Packers have $10.8 Mil in cap space. Given that, would the money be better spent on a vet WR or to upgrade LB depth. My thought would be LB depth. Perry and CM3 have not played a full season in forever and are at least as likely to miss time as Cobb and/or Monty. We are more dangerously thin at Edge than we are at WR--and no matter how untested most of them are, we have potential contributors there. I actually like Allison, but what I think Matters very little. I don't see these guys in practice every day...though I think we can safely say Davis is not an answer at WR.
Thegreatreynoldo
July 02, 2018 at 09:42 pm
I pretty much agree. The answer might well be based on which WRs and which OLBs become available later this summer. If no OLB that might be able to help us gets cut, then WR, and vice versa. And I wouldn't be averse to a coverage ILB, a safety, or a right tackle.
TarynsEyes
July 02, 2018 at 12:45 pm
The more the discussion about adding a veteran WR is highlighted, the more it becomes apparent that either those on the roster aren't up to the task already known or Rodgers cannot make them better and needs a veteran to help him achieve.
The best way to help Rodgers is to make sure the defense can show up weekly. If not, we'll score 28-35 and still lose games we shouldn't and more importantly, the first game in the playoffs...yippee, another Division Title, maybe or Wildcard....and another year passes...tick...tock.
Oppy
July 02, 2018 at 01:35 pm
The more the discussion about adding a vet WR is highlighted, the more it becomes apparent that:
1) The period between OTAs and training camp is the most stagnant lull on the football calendar for any real meaningful football news unless a player gets himself in legal trouble or suffers a serious non-football related injury
2) No offense to sports writers, but they are known to write about all sorts of manner of things that really have no significance to anyone but fans... Like QB "face offs" (Brady Vs. Rodgers! Favre vs. Elway!!) etc and so forth. Just because it's written and discussed doesn't mean it equates to a meaningful situation or symptom.
3) There's lots of ways to skin a cat. Do the Packers "need" to sign a vet WR? Not if they don't need to :) Aaron Rodgers used to move the ball on critical 3rd downs by throwing to Ruvell Martin...
TarynsEyes
July 02, 2018 at 02:30 pm
Writing articles about anything has a question inside it and responses by those who read them. The question is to bring discussion about any situation no matter how large/small or inconsequential everyone has a right to deem it.
The responses usually by those who are interested, often reveal issues that those running/performing in the matter of the article could prefer to not be exposed or merely over publicized, as in this matter with WR's and whether Nelson being cut, Cobb retained and the extent of the ability of some and Org to be right/wrong to the former and/or enough for the latter to the task.
I read many comments that offer doubt to all and since many have these doubts, it would be shameful to think the Org isn't also inclined in this thinking.
The last 7 seasons have surely shown all one thing...this team has issues every year and some of these issues are constant. The talent at WR has been lately an issue and my 2 cents says it starts this season in the thinking that Adams is a ' true number one ' going in. He may be at the end but if GB is leaning toward needing help in this area, then the issue could be more than just a dead zone article to keep total boredom at bay. : )
WKUPackFan
July 02, 2018 at 03:57 pm
"The responses usually by those interested, often reveal issues that those running/performing in the matter of the article could prefer not to be exposed or merely over publicized".
Huh?
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Articles about whether the Packers need a veteran wide receiver indicate nothing about the organization's thoughts on the issue.
TarynsEyes
July 02, 2018 at 05:48 pm
You don't believe the FO in GB isn't questioning whether they need to get a veteran WR? Then you are naive. Mostly all articles are written and based upon some info leaked by various means. Let's also not forget that there are many smart people about football and all aspects that aren't working in the field and by choice.....MM was toll booth collector and yet he got hired and surely there are some who just don't think the NFL there first career choice.
WKUPackFan
July 02, 2018 at 07:56 pm
I have no idea whether the FO is considering a veteran WR. I assume that they are always considering any acquisitions at any positions that will improve the team.
Jason is a great writer, but I see no reference to any anonymous source in this article. It appears to be an opinion piece discussing whether there is a need for a veteran WR. There is no need to read anything else into it, especially anything relating to the article representing a specific opinion held by the FO.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
July 02, 2018 at 06:04 pm
Awesome!
4thand1
July 02, 2018 at 02:50 pm
NO
Since'61
July 02, 2018 at 04:10 pm
4th - succinct and to the point. Good job! Thanks, Since '61
TXCHEESE
July 02, 2018 at 04:36 pm
I don't feel there's a glaring need for receiver at this point. Let the young bucks get their reps in TC. Who knows, maybe one or two of those guys really shine. I'm really hoping there is enough improvement in the running game, that we're not throwing it all over the place out of necessity.
There will probably be some veterans cut at the end of camp, and someone should be available in the event of injury, or simple lack of production from the young ones. I can't get excited about any of the names above though.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
July 02, 2018 at 06:08 pm
If the Pack picks up a veteran WR it is an acknowledgement Gutey and the scouting department screwed up not once in the draft, but 3 times! It also would demonstrate MM and the coaching staff failed with the younger veteran WR's currently on the roster.
croatpackfan
July 03, 2018 at 05:29 am
"Do the Packers Need a Veteran Receiver?"
Additional one? NO!
DD
July 03, 2018 at 08:26 am
This is absolutely absurd!! They had a dependable, loyal, and sure handed trusted route runner with Jordy. What the hell are they doing? Jordy could have played the slot easily with our tight ends now. Do talk of s proven wide out? Stupid at best fools. We'll find out with our new batch of receivers. If they sign s veteran had been with no chemistry with Rodgers this is a huge mistake I feel.
PatrickGB
July 03, 2018 at 11:34 am
It seems all the sports media outlets want or expect that we need to pick up a veteran WR in FA. Aaron said it well. Why release Jordy in order to pick up another? We don’t need “Last years WR” We need next years WR. Those guys are already on the team and fighting to see who remains the best option.