Cory's Corner: Sunday Could Be A Statement

Packers coach Matt LaFleur needs to make a statement on Sunday. What statement will he make?

There’s nothing to fear on Sunday right? The Bears have been toothless for over 10 years and don’t exactly strike fear into anyone.

The last time the Bears won a playoff game was 2010 and that was the year the Packers beat them in Chicago en route to winning Super XLV. 

But this game is scary on a number of levels. Obviously, the Bears just want to beat the Packers, especially now that Jordan Love is the next elite Packers quarterback in a long line of elite Packers quarterbacks. And let’s not forget that Chicago has lost nine in a row to Green Bay. The last time the Bears got a win in this matchup was Dec. 16, 2018. That’s forever ago when you play a team twice a year. 

But there’s also the Justin Fields argument. The Bears have a tough decision to make considering his future. The No. 11 overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft hasn’t lived up to expectations with 40 touchdowns and 30 picks in 39 games. He was 25th in passer rating in 2022 and he’s currently sitting 23rd this season. He is under contract for one more season, but the Bears have been given a gift from the Panthers with the No. 1 pick. The Bears can reset their quarterback clock by drafting a quarterback first and moving on from Fields. 

Which is why this game is scary. The last portion of the season has been a fight or flight scenario for Fields. He has been backed into corner and the Bears have won four of their last five. He has a passer rating of 77.63 in those five games — but he’s also averaging 58 yards rushing. 

We all know that the Packers cannot stop running water. Fields is going to be a huge problem if this Packers defense cannot set the edge and keep him contained. The Packers must pressure Fields up the middle and then keep him contained in the pocket. Obviously, that’s easier said than done. According to ProFootballReference.com, Fields is tied for the league lead with an average of 2.7 seconds in the pocket. Conversely, Love is 13th with 2.4 seconds. 

This game actually reminds me of the 49ers-Packers playoff game. You remember that one right? It’s where Colin Kaepernick glided all over the field to the tune of 181 rushing yards as San Francisco clobbered Green Bay 45-31 in the 2012 NFC Divisional Playoff. 

So we can talk about how good Love has looked recently, how big of a factor Aaron Jones has on this offense and how well Tucker Kraft has played as being the best player the Packers drafted last spring. 

But the Packers’ playoff hopes reside with the defense. That unit has given up 344 yards a game, including 132 rushing yards a game — good for 28th in the league. 

The Packers and defensive coordinator Joe Barry have been scrutinized plenty this year, but if they fail this test, it’s on head  coach Matt LaFleur. And that’s because LaFleur brough Barry back this year when the defense wasn’t very good to begin with. 

This is a statement game for the Packers and more importantly, LaFleur. He is still searching for his statement win with this franchise. It was supposed to be in 2020. The Packers hosted Tom Brady and the Bucs in the NFC title game. LaFleur could’ve closed the book on Brady but opted to kick a field goal with 2:09 left.

Love has made a statement with how he has played this year. Now it’s LaFleur’s turn to make his own statement. 

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Savage57's picture

January 06, 2024 at 06:37 am

I really hope Matt's statement isn't one we've heard too many times in critical games.

"It's on me. I didn't have them ready for the game."

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:34 am

Or "I've got to get #33 more involved in the game."

Or "we can't keep doing that on defense."

Why does he never say that about ST?

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Starrbrite's picture

January 06, 2024 at 02:20 pm

That’s right Sic.

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Renllaw's picture

January 06, 2024 at 06:41 am

We absolutely MUST start out hot on offense and get a lead. On defense do NOT rush the passer wide on the edge. Load the box and funnel everything inside... Its been said thousands of times, but it really is that basic. Fields QB rating is in the mid 70's. Coaches have to keep reminding the players this is not the game to chase sacks, its about bullying the O-Lineman in front of you while collapsing the pocket IN YOUR ASSIGNED LANE and harass the QB . Now we get to sit back and see whats called and hope we out execute Da Bears.

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Lphill's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:31 am

Can't p!ay 2 D lineman and your safties deep , if we see this early on this will be a loss .

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:37 am

Is this a good game to call up #99 J Ford?

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NickPerry's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:39 pm

Man you guys are cold...Sic asked a questions and we "Downvote" him here?

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Houndog's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:37 am

Good morning Cory, and all,
Where statements are concerned "We all know that the Packers cannot stop running water" is a good place to start. The fact that it's true is painful.
As for LaFleur making a statement based on the outcome of this game, I think that'll be subjective whichever way the game ends. When they win, he can be like a giddy teenager, and I've heard enough of his post loss 'statements' to know that they're mostly filled with cliches and whining. My fear is that by winning he'll somehow make some stupid case out of it to keep Barry, and that is the statement many of us are waiting for. But that won't come until the Pack is done for the season and unfortunately, if the 90% of the many co-hosts on every national football show on television are correct that'll happen this weekend. They all mention that "the Packers' defense is coached by Joe Barry" and then they all laugh.
I don't think anyone here thinks the Packers are SuperBowl material this year, I certainly don't, but I think they're on track, and I don't believe one game is the ultimate indicator either.
In the bigger picture, the 'Statement' I'm looking for will come from either Murphy and/or the Executive Committee at season's end. With the Packers the "Profits" are a guarantee, let's see if "Performance" matters!

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Oppy's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:34 am

Stopping running water is a horrible analogy. Running water is nearly an unstoppable force. Water is a near universal solvent and given time, water in motion literally shapes the universe. Running water will always win.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:37 am

I think that Barry will be gone even with a win assuming the win is a 35-32 type scenario. If he somehow has them hold Chicago to 10 points then he might slither his way into a contract extension.

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:59 am

I think the Packers would need to make a run in the playoffs where the defense is winning games against high-end opponents to save Barry's job...and even then, we'd know we're still in for roller-coaster defensive performances in '24.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:41 am

Hoisting the Lombardi might be considered grounds for re-signing JB, and we all know that won't happen.

Anything less shouldn't even be a consideration.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:24 pm

Only if his D is stopping the run and holding opponents to less than 20 points. If they are winning shootouts then even a Lombardi Trophy isn't worth saving JB.

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Matt's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:05 pm

As much as I wanted to see Barry out after his first season, I could go for it. Win Lombardi and I can stand Barry for next 2-3 years :)

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 08:55 pm

I couldn't stomach that for another 2-3 years even with a SB win. Basically that would waste a lot of time/talent with the rest of the team.

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Since'61's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:43 am

MLF needs to win one of these elimination games at home. This is his 5th season as the Packers HC .

In 2020 his team lost to Tampa, 2021 his team lost to SF and in 2022 his team lost to the Lions. All winnable games and all lost at Lambeau.

Time to get past it. Beat the Bears and move on. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

January 06, 2024 at 08:48 am

Well said Since '61!

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Since'61's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:27 pm

Thanks Nick, Since '61

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Gman1976's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:04 am

If you think about it, this game may be the turning point for MLF and not only JB. As good as the offense has developed with our young talent, does MLF have the leadership and coaching skills to get this team to the next level as a head coach? If not, then it may be his time to move on. A good/great OC doesn't always translate into being a good/great head coach.

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White92's picture

January 07, 2024 at 05:27 am

I couldn't agree more

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Tundraboy's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:37 pm

Perfectly stated Since '61 and Cory. We are home, it's the Bears and the biggest game of the Season. It is not a must win because this has been a very good season for all the right reasons. Our future is bright again so playing the game we are capable of and even winning would put a nice stamp on it. So what more motivation and incentive does one need? How many golden opportunities can MLF squander at home? If they are not fully prepared for this one, when?

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 08:05 am

These Bears aren’t toothless. Especially with Barry.
There is No House Edge In this game.
And we’ve lost the only QB that owned them.
Love is not Elite. He’s got to get the packers In. Period!
And he still has a long way to go, too equal those that were.

Truthfully: Everyone has been scrutinized this year.
And thats the scary, on a number of Levels.
We know the negatives.
We know these guys must practice.
We know we have a better coach.
What we don’t know is; Did Gutey build a winner?

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BAMABADGER's picture

January 06, 2024 at 08:38 am

Not Elite????? Was ACR Elite after his first year as the starting QB??? Love has already exceeded ACR's rookie performance. Love accomplished this with a group of inexperienced rookie WRs. ACR had a group of Packer HOFers.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:43 am

Now compare Carlson's record to Mason Crosby's. The kid is alright :)

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Packerpasty's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:32 am

But he is still not elite....and if they lose this game at Lambeau is it an indication of what next year holds??? A team that hovers around .500 or slightly above?? Everyone on the team has had a full season now to adjust to the NFL, even the "young" guys.....no more excuses, MLF, Barry, and Love have to win this game or all the other stuff is just bullshit...

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NickPerry's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:00 am

Hmmm...First year starter with 30 TD passes, 11 Picks, over 3500 yards passing, and 4 rushing TDs.

His All Pro LT out the year. His WRs and TEs all in year one or two, and his #1 WR missing MUCH of the year already. Rotating O-Linemen for almost the entire season. Aaron Jones, his #1 RB missing most of the year, the heart and soul of this offense IMO, and he STILL had this type of season?

When I saw the word "Elite" I still cringe a bit. I'm still not sold he'll be "Elite". But he's been pretty fucking good, more than good enough to lead this team and all these other promising players.

I REALLY don't know how much more you need to see SH.

BUT...If I'm reading your comment correctly IF Love does get them into the playoffs with a win on Sunday, are you FINALLY going to give Love some props?

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croatpackfan's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:11 am

"... IF Love does get them into the playoffs with a win on Sunday, are you FINALLY going to give Love some props?"

Ooooh, You are an incorrigible optimist, Nick!

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NickPerry's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:16 am

I know I am Croat...I like SH, especially around draft time. I don't agree with what he says much of the time but I do appreciate his opinions and thoughts. Just like everyone on this site

Well except the dude "ImaPayne" THAT dude is a nauseating Vikings fan with nothing better to do than come here and make just absurd statements! I have very little time each morning to comment here, especially during the week. That's why I don't respond to many folks comments. But THAT dude, ImaPayne is always here...UGH!! WHERE does he find the time to comment on the oppositions sites?

I probably spelled his name wrong but you'll know his posts when you see them.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:43 pm

So around draft time does he lower the dosage enough that the gibberish becomes understandable gibberish? Bad postmodern artists have more understandable work.

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Oppy's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:42 am

All this guy (Stockholder) does is move the goal posts to ensure he's always "right".

After his years of bashing every move Gutekunst made, and proclaiming that Rodgers is the only thing that keeps this Packers team together, and how poor of a player Jordan Love certainly will be; He's now shifted his stance over the last 6 weeks to speak about how Matt LaFleur's coaching is the singular force that is propelling Jordan Love and all these young offensive players (All drafted by Gutekunst) to succeed. It's never Love is playing great; it's MLF is really helping coach up Love and help him succeed. It can't be that Gutekunst and his staff have selected strong players in the draft; it's that the entire coaching staff is taking so-so talent and they're only performing due to the stellar coaching.

Whatever it takes to keep from having to- god forbid- admit that maybe Jordan Love is really talented. Maybe Gutekunst drafted talented players.
Maybe he has to admit that he was wrong.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:48 am

I don't credit MLF with much of JL10's success. I DO see him adjusting to what JL is good at after maybe 7 or 8 games, which is glacial speed for the NFL. Those adjustments need to be made by halftime each week.

Lack of in-game adjustment is one of the biggest critiques of MLF.

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:50 am

How many offensive skill position guys have been available for all 16 games so far? Love, Doubs...that's about it. Kraft, but unutilized early.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:51 am

Winning like that mainly credits Gutey for drafting depth, and JL10 for throwing to whoever's open. He's also getting good at going for the open target farthest down field when there's a choice. What his ceiling might be is ... really inspiring to think about!

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:31 am

NP- He does know the offense.
I've always stated that.
He's come on of late.
Stats can be misleading.
But he has made this offense go.
We've seen when the offense doesn't go.
We've seen it when it does.
But Elite? Cringe is correct.
This article is full of propaganda.
It directed the blame on the coach if they lose.
My opinion is this team was never built for the super-Bowl.
But to replace Rodgers. If they win and advance.
Kudos to Gutey. And the fans that loved in him.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:37 pm

Since week 9, JL has been playing at a level not seen in the NFL since Aaron Rodgers' 9 week stretch to end the year during his 2021 MVP season. That is elite level of play. Now I will not say he is a top 5 QB for the 2024 season. I do not believe that someone can be top 5 at a position with only 1 good season. Look at Jalen Hurts this year for a good example. Now if Love plays like this 2 years in a row he will be a top 5 QB.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 03:46 pm

You-like this 2 years in a row - Point
1 year does not make you elite.

And will MLF take the ball out of his hands.

I say MLF has, to help him.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:02 pm

I said "I do not believe that someone can be top 5 at a position with only 1 good season. Look at Jalen Hurts this year for a good example. Now if Love plays like this 2 years in a row he will be a top 5 QB." That doesn't mean that someone cannot be playing at an elite level for an entire season. Since mid season, JL HAS been playing at an elite level. That is different than saying he is a top 5 QB with only one season under his belt.

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Houndog's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:06 am

Stockholder,
I see things differently.
Over the years I think I've shown on this site that I am not a Gutey fan, but I've softened a bit this season.
I have not seen Gutey really 'reach' on many picks by drafting a guy Waaaay too early by taking a guy several rounds ahead of where he was predicted, most of his picks have been close to where other teams and the dozens of 'draft gurus' have had them rated. Gary took a few years to develop, so there is that.
What that all means to me is that IF Gutey was wrong, so were all those other 'experts' so where's the problem, is it poor drafting, or poor coaching?
Eight 1st round picks on defense and they suck, I've got to believe its the latter.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:55 am

A major disconnect is what Gutey drafts a player for vs how they're used. I can think of no more glaring example than #7. He's great at playing aggressive, horrible at hanging back in soft zone. I'm not sure Ja has that stark a contrast? Zach Tom was drafted to play C, using him as an OT is not as glaring an example either.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:42 pm

Tom was drafted because he was a good player. He was the top rated pass blocking OT coming out in 2022's draft. The reason people said he might need to move to C is because of his lack of bulk. He played C during his 3rd college year and moved to LT during his 4th year and played there the next year as well.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 06, 2024 at 02:01 pm

Tom was a Day 3 pick. In the fourth round, you're looking for guys who your board said would be taken in the first two days and yet they're still available. If you can get good, dependable players early on Day 3, that's a real coup. Most Day 3 players are not resigned after their rookie contract. Tom, and Doubs, really look like guys we might want to hang onto.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:52 am

Dog - I can't disagree with your view.
But I can disagree with all the blame on the coaches.
My opinion has always been since 2010.
It was the Defensive scheme.
That the players drafted for..
No longer fit the 3-4-4.
And the DL was never fixed.

Compare the personal to 2010.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:44 pm

There is basically no difference between 4-2-5 nickel and 2-4-5 nickel except in the stance for the DE or Edge players.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:07 pm

Thats not the explanation we heard over the years.
1. The DL had to make holes for the LBs.
2. The edge job is to rush the qb. No containment/ Running game.
3. Raji NT had to collapse the pocket. Then was moved outside.
4. datone Jones tried to switch.
5 Kampman was replaced for cm3 and aj Hawk.
Bishop became the muscle.
6. Peppers was switched to LB by Capers.
Yet he was moved back to De before he retired.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:27 pm

1. Same between both types of D. The DL holds up the OL and the LBs make the tackles.
2. Edge is to contain and rush same as 4-3 DE.
3. Raji moved to 3-tech no outside.
4. Jones couldn't switch to a standup rusher instead of hand in the ground. Do note he went to a 4-3 team and still sucked so perhaps he was just bad.
5. Kampman was starting to starting to wear down and was injured in 2009. He didn't do anything in Jacksonville after going there in 2010.
6. Edge is just the new name for a 3-4 OLB AND 4-3 DE since they are basically the same.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 03:52 pm

#6 - They'll never win a super - bowl . ---then

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:03 pm

They did win a Super Bowl running the 3-4 base in 2010. Whoops...try again.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:34 pm

Different LBs - Which was my point.
You say their the same. Their not.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:00 pm

How many years are all the players the same from the previous years? Answer not many. Therefore no #$&@ Sherlock the players were not the same. However, you keep moving the goal posts so you are never wrong. It isn't surprising that you have 7k more down votes that up votes.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 06, 2024 at 03:54 pm

It's not really that hard to understand unless you're willfully stupid.

11 guys. Lots of hybrids. Preston Smith is a 4-3 end, and a 3-4 linebacker. Gary too.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:03 pm

Stockholder doesn't understand football and makes wild claims he cannot back up.

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stockholder's picture

January 06, 2024 at 07:34 pm

You don't read right.
Go back and read it ALL again.
You say they're the same defense.
The 2010 was better and will always be
better.
My point was just that.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:02 pm

The 2010 defense was still a 3-4 base. The difference is the defensive coordinator. Again if you knew anything about football you would know this very simple detail.

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stockholder's picture

January 07, 2024 at 07:38 am

Of Course it was a 3-4-4 base.
It won't matter who the DC is. Barry is #3.
The Edge players couldn't/can't replace the LBs. or true Des.
The packers have tried to kill two birds with one stone.
Edge players can't Cover! Edge players contain Rbs or Qbs.
They Rush. Thats it! And they sure can't cover a fast Te now.
You fail to see beyond Gary. Even P. Smith.
You fail to see why Lowrey, Daniels and even Raji failed @ DE
CM3 moved for N. Perry. Peppers and Z smith failed.
Beating their rush is only a TE or a good Rb. Think outside the box.
What edge player has ever led the team in tackles?
A edge player is the one trick pony. And It's No different than a blitz.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 07, 2024 at 08:26 am

Talking to you is worse than talking to a brick wall. You fail to realize how much the league has changed in the last 13 years. Previously 3-4 OLB were typically players who were tweeners. As in too small to be a 4-3 DE but still decent pass rushers in college. Even these players were not asked to drop into coverage very much. Fast forward to now and most of the guys coming out now are 4-3 DE size. What used to be called a 3-4 OLB has been renamed to Edge.

The rest of your comment is nothing but fluff that is to try and distract and once again MOVE THE GOAL POST. Overall you are nothing more than a clueless troll and a bad troll on top of that.

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stockholder's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:07 am

Edge- The edge is being replaced with
the 4-2-5.
Lions DE NT DT RUSH.
Bears DE DT DT DE
Vikings DE NT DT - 4 Olbs
You'd keep Reggie White on the bench

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croatpackfan's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:22 am

"Which is why this game is scary. The last portion of the season has been a fight or flight scenario for Fields."

You might be corect Cory, but as much as this is scary, I still take that it is more burden on the back of Justin Fields than Packers team (and/or MLF)!

"This is a statement game for the Packers and more importantly, LaFleur. He is still searching for his statement win with this franchise. It was supposed to be in 2020. The Packers hosted Tom Brady and the Bucs in the NFC title game. LaFleur could’ve closed the book on Brady but opted to kick a field goal with 2:09 left."

I can see only one scenario MLF to be fired. If mr. predsident WANI wants Joe Barry out and MLF refuse to fulfill that request. Also, what if MLF decided to let FPQB on 4th down decide to throw the ball to triple covered Davante Adams instead to some other available and wide open WR or TE and failed as for 3 previous attempt? Than he would be guilty for not opted to kick the field goal and try to bring ball back in that 02:00 minutes that was left of the game! For me, D played well all that game and harrass Tom Brady all game, but especially in the 2nd half. They just needed to push 3 and out and would have enough time for another try to score (btw, if I remember correctly they had all 3 TO and 2 minute warning to stop the clock!).

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WD's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:42 am

Another bright spot about the Viking game was the emergence of Bo Melton. This came as no surprise to those who had advocated for him the entire preseason. Thanks to injuries he got his chance. He delivered! I thought he should have made the team at the start of the season. He has everything you could possibly want in a WR. But, better late than never. With Melton on the WR squad the Packers may just have the fastest group of WRs in the league. What a gift for Love. This team is progressing nicely. Now lets have roasted Bear for Sunday dinner. Then on to the Superbowl? Ya never know.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:06 am

We used to have 4 different WRs with 4.3x speed. Even then, Miami was faster. Gutey cut our 4th player that fast, then his replacement who was also that fast.

Melton Watson Reed, in that order of timed 40, all coming in between 4.34-4.37. As much as I'd love to see them all on the field at the same time, (and better yet, a fourth too) I think it's a more sensible approach to use Melton as a direct substitute for #9 when he's out due to injury. And hopefully have a full season out of both of them combined into one position. If JL10 can always have a player in that MVS role he's more likely to be able to hit Watson in stride. Even Reed still has to stop and wait for the ball to get to him. I really don't criticize JL10 for having difficulty adjusting to Watson, Heath at 4.64, Kraft at 4.62, and other targets everywhere across that range. It's a big ask!

I hope JL spends time with these 3 speedy guys this off-season, improving and maintaining that connection. And #9 learns how to track the ball on a go route. Melton could increase his catch radius. If they come in to OTAs at the top of their game as a unit then they can all work on improving at contested catches, and it would help everyone in the secondary, too.

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Oppy's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:50 am

Intellectually, I know that this should be a close, knock-down and drag-em-out type of game that could come down to the wire. The Bears run defense could make GB one dimensional and allow them to pin their ears back and get after Love.

However, the Packers have about two games each season where they inexplicably do exactly whatever it is that everyone agrees they shouldn't be able to do, and I have this weird feeling this is going to be one of those weeks... and the Packers OL humbles the Bears defensive front, allowing Aaron Jones and Patrick Taylor to have a big day on the ground, which in turn stays the Bears' pass rush and allows Love to feast off of the resultant play action opportunities.

I told a friend while my mind knows it could be anything from a close game to a blow out loss, I just -feel- like it might be a Packers route of the Bears of the highest order...

The Packers whoop the Bears so badly that a green bay water boy gets flagged for taunting.

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:55 am

"Intellectually, I know that this should be a close, knock-down and drag-em-out type of game"

Right now, I feel like this one is a toss-up...mostly because you never know which Packers team is going to show up.

If the Packers can beat the Bears on the edge and get the wide zone going, they should be able to score plenty of points.

Run and roll away from Sweat.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:16 am

Dobber, this is another reason I want to see #31 Wilson in there instead of #27, when 33 needs a breather.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 06, 2024 at 02:30 pm

Dobby—agree with you on every point.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:14 am

#27 runs what's blocked. #33 makes that same play better. I'd rather see 33 get every run he can handle, and #31 Wilson given meaningful snaps so Gutey can evaluate him better before the draft.

Can NOT afford to give up on the run this game. A 1-dimensional Packers offense is not a winning strategy, even though this passing game does have several dimensions. Even without Musgrave Dillon Watson and Wicks.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 06, 2024 at 02:29 pm

Sic—I completely agree on Wilson rather than Taylor—an excellent point.

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Oppy's picture

January 06, 2024 at 08:53 pm

Wilson was the preseason darling running against backup and 3rd string defenses. He showed great explosion, that much we can say for certain.

However, I thought the Packers made a wild mistake exposing Patrick Taylor to the PS in favor of gambling on Wilson.

Patrick Taylor has done everything the Packers have asked of him during his time in green and gold, he's a decent run blocker, and we've seen him produce well on the field under the bright lights when he's had his chance.

With Dillon out tomorrow, I look forward to seeing Taylor get more opportunities in meaningful PT.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:15 am

Gutey knows exactly what #27 is. Yes he's a solid contributor in the areas GB asks of RB3. He only gets yards that are blocked for him. There's been a lot of criticism of #28 this season, but he breaks more tackles and gets more YAC than 27 both as a receiver and as a rusher. 27 is basically in the same mold, but 28 is the better version.

#31, nobody can say anything; all we've seen is one GREAT run in preseason, showing both vision and speed. And some other good runs. Gutey needs to know what he can do in a regular season game, and filling RB needs is one of the bigger questions next season. Wilson and Goodson both went out with injury early. Goodson and Nichols both left the team early. Goodson was sniped off the PS, Nichols I don't know if he was cut or what.

Can Gutey draft anyone even as good as those three? You can't answer that without a proper evaluation, and it's really hard to do that in one game. MLF pulled him before letting him get a meaningful snap this season. He was on the 48 man roster, thrown in cold, then benched when he didn't immediately produce in the same circumstances #28 couldn't either. I can't even pretend that's anything other than a HC mistake. I don't really expect that to be corrected today, I'd just like to see MLF take steps towards that.

I don't think MLF and Gutey are on the same page. If MLF utilized players the way Gutey intended when he drafted them, it'd be a better team. Or at least there's room for improvement in this regard.

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 06, 2024 at 09:57 am

"...and how well Tucker Kraft has played as being the best player the Packers drafted last spring."

Tucker Kraft has been great since taking over the TE1 spot a few weeks back. But Jayden Reed is without question "the best player the Packers drafted last spring" with his 60 receptions and 10 overall TDs.

I hope they both go on to have long productive careers in the green and gold, but as of right now, Reed is clearly this years ROY for the Pack.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:21 am

#11 is also the clear WR1, he's earned that. Imagine if JL10 always looked to him first and simply threw to him if he was open. That'd make this O line look really good.

Instead, 11 has the most catches, yards and TDs on the team despite often being the second third or fourth read.

Something I've missed all season: I have Kraft listed at 4.62 and Musgrave at 4.68. Is that right? Or did I get that backwards?

ETA: Musgrave ran a 4.61 at the combine. Functionally identical speed.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:41 am

It takes 0.2 seconds to blink. That's the difference, over 40 yards, in their underwear. The difference between Kraft and Musgrave is 0.06 seconds....a third of a blink of an eye.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:12 pm

The difference is in acceleration. While watching them in camp, you could tell that Musgrave is faster especially in pads. At the senior bowl he was clocked over 20mph in pads. When you get to 40 yards down the field, the 4.61/40 (Musgrave) vs 4.69/40 (Kraft) is a difference of about 2 feet. Doesn't sound like much but it can be the difference between being caught or not.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:21 am

I looked again and it's a .01 difference; Kraft 4.62 Musgrave 4.61. Much more important is route running, explosiveness, and agility. They are very different players, and there's plenty of room to use both even on the same play.

Even more important is for JL10 to really develop a connection with both. They can be the difference between a broken play and positive yardage. 5-15 consistently can win games.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:54 pm

Kraft is listed at 4.68 on everything I've seen. More importantly his 10 yard split was 1.6 while Musgrave had a 1.54. That is a noticeable difference, although both are pretty fast for TEs. There's a reason the beat writers were going on about how explosive Musgrave looked in minicamp last year.

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DoubleJ's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:28 pm

When healthy, Watson is the clear #1.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:27 am

He certainly has that potential and is the most dangerous! Between catch radius, height, and explosiveness, he's a potential NFL great. So far, he's been out so much that half the time he's in JL10 needs to adjust to him and they aren't really in sync. I think having Bo Melton in as his substitute when #9 is out can help JL10 stay connected to their speed. Yes, 80 is a different target. He has a smaller catch radius and not just because he's 5" shorter. Even so, I think it would make JL10 more consistent to have that role fulfilled all season long between the two of them.

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Since'75's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:26 am

" the Bears just want to beat the Packers, especially now that Jordan Love is the next elite Packers quarterback in a long line of elite Packers quarterbacks."

Henceforth.....he is crowned!!

I know, i know...Carry The G 🍻
**********************
Actually, there is nothing to fear on Sunday, not as far as i'm concerned.
I'm not sure why anyone would be "scared" like the writer explains.
The Bears are a losing sub .500 team, this is the Bears at Lambeau.
So tell me, why would anyone be scared?
Losing to the Bears is the only reason i can think of for ya'll to be scared.
If you are scared, that is only born from insecurities regarding your Packer team.
Are you scared that you'll be disappointed in a Packer loss?
If they win or lose, it will most likely be because they deserved it, either way
Frankly, i see a win coming, because they should beat the bears, if they don't...it's on them.

I look at the bigger picture, building a strong team.
That doesn't happen in one season.

My initial questions concerning our Packer team have been answered as far as i'm concerned.
Not making the playoffs isn't a failure in my mind.
Love exceeded my expectations. This game won't change that, win or lose.
We have some raw talent skill players on offense to build for the future, again, this game won't change that.

Am i afraid we won't get into the playoffs?
Not in the least.
If we do....i'll watch it as i watch any other Packer game.
If we don't, you won't find me crying on the couch.
Again, this season wasn't about the playoffs.
It's building a foundation to a strong team.

I also don't believe it's much of a statement game for a lot of the reasons above.
If we win this game, what is the statement?
We beat a team with a losing record?
We beat a team we almost always beat?

If we reached the playoffs....then what?
Are we the cinderella team winning the Super Bowl?
Are we getting our asses handed to us by Dallas, in Dallas?
This team doesn't need the playoffs. It's not ready
For what, so Murphy and Gute can brag that we're back in the playoffs?
I know..i know...thumbs down for me...lol.
Go ahead...make your day!! 🥱🙄🙂

When this game is over, I'm looking forward to next season.
I want to see what pieces we add.
I want to see how we do against a tougher schedule.
I want to see if they make a move on defense.
I want to see how they handle the cap.
I want to see what they do with certain personnel, coaches and players.
I want to see progress in building another Championship roster.

So, you'll forgive me, if i'm not scared of, or that i give no F about the perennial losers we call the Chicago Bears.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:32 am

You make mostly good points, but lately you just have to be a doofapotamus.

What would the statement be for MLF? The article didn't spell that out for you? MLF has been historically bad at losing at home in the final game of the season, whether that's regular season or playoffs.

He can change that tomorrow. If that doesn't happen, it's foreseeably on JB. Which is on MLF.

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:48 pm

Just as much, it would be a young team rising to the occasion. Plenty of people have doubts about LaF or Barry, but winning their way into a playoff spot would be a significant boost for a team full of young guys that many were giving up on at the bye.

As you say, this team couldn't get it done a year ago against Detroit...or against Tampa or SF in playoffs past. Even if they win and lose to a "better" team in the opening round, there's growth that comes from getting it done in a "must-win" game.

Each year, there are teams that go on a run late and use that to springboard into the next season. I'd much rather that team be the Packers than the Bears.

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Duneslick's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:30 pm

They are not going to the Super Bowl, The 2nd to the last paragraph sums it up

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White92's picture

January 07, 2024 at 05:38 am

Playoff experience for a young team is priceless. For that reason alone I want them to win.

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Houndog's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:42 am

Watching the replay of 2023 Opening Day against Da Bears on NFL channel, I wish you could all see it.
To me it appears the that the defense has actually regressed over the course of the season, even though their patented "let's let the other team back into the game' was a part of this game too.

On offense all the announcers talking about "Aaron Jones had 55 yds on the first series of this half and we haven't seen him since, what's up with that"? LaFleur at halftime saying "yeah, we need to get him more involved". Well Duh! Really? As in some of the more recent games the "O" looked good, and played well enough to win.

Not much has changed.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:44 am

So, we beat these guys like rented mules, scored 38 points, including a defensive TD, on their home field, and that's a cause for concern because.....?

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:32 am

I wouldn't say "not much has changed." I agree with the similarities you've pointed out, but this offense has improved SUBSTANTIALLY! Individuals have improved, MLF has learned to use them better, the O line is now much better, JL10 eludes pressure much better, and he gets the ball out much quicker. His completion % is significantly better.

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CheeseEdWest2's picture

January 06, 2024 at 10:51 am

We have way too much fear being pushed on us in general, who needs to bring fear into the game.

It's a gift they have, which comes from the team maturing just enough and just in time to make these last games meaningful. The Vikings game was their first "play-off" game, and they rose to the occasion. They have a chance to play probably two more at best, Bears and then whomever.

I like to look at the opportunity those games with meaning presents: the players have to dig down deep in themselves, they get a taste of that next level of competition. The further they go, the more of that experience they get. Ultimately they will lose, but until then they can play with house money in the sense that they are exceeding expectations: do your best, grow together, and build a foundation for next year.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:35 am

There's a possibility they get #6 seed with a win, or otherwise face Detroit in the wildcard round. Not that I think it's at all a gimme, but arguably a more favorable matchup than Dallas.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:58 pm

Especially the way Detroit has been playing lately. There would also be some beautiful symmetry going on there. I think every Packer and Lion Fan old enough remembers the last time the Lions had a home playoff game. The ending anyway.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:42 am

Every single player, coach, groundskeeper, equipment manager, etc. knows how important this game is. It's the Bears, it's for the playoffs. I'm expecting the Packers to put on their best performance of the season.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 06, 2024 at 03:59 pm

I think it's totally fair to expect the best performance of the year, while acknowledging that LaFleur has shrunk in every previous similar opportunity. Perhaps this is the one that he grows into, I'll be hoping for it.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 06, 2024 at 04:39 pm

By my accounting, it looks like LaFleur has faced 6 elimination games. In 2019, his first season, he won a playoff game before being eliminated by the Niners. 1-1. The next year, again he won a playoff game before being eliminated by the Bucs. 2-2 In 2021, we lost a home playoff game to SF. 2-3

And last season's finale against Detroit would make that 2-4. I suppose we could also include last week's win over Minnesota as an elimination game, since if we'd lost, our season is over.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:39 am

Yes. The issue as I see it is MLF's contribution to those losses. Bad challenges may not have ever lost a game, but there were multiple that contributed. Poor clock management moreso. We've seen both recently. I think AR12 choked in some of those big moments; that's gone.

MLF has also flashed some brilliance with both scheme and individual play calls. Not consistently, but for some games. Hopefully this is one of those! With JB, I think it's more like his scheme has fared better against some teams. I don't think that happens today. If adjustments require somebody else getting their .02 in, whatever it takes ...

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HawkPacker's picture

January 06, 2024 at 11:43 am

As far as I am concerned, we are playing on house money. Many of us, including myself, did not expect us to be this good this first season of Love. I really did not know what to expect. Yes we had a somewhat easy schedule but we are so young and we still have that same DC.

What was most important to me this season was to see if Love was the answer for us. I think we all know that he is. Now we do not need to try to move up in the draft to draft a QB.

The other thing is that we needed to play enough different players during the year to know if we need to draft for that position. I think we did pretty good with that as well although I am not sure that we have seen enough of Wilson at RB to know that he is a future gamer for us. Maybe we need to draft an rb within the first 3 rounds of the draft.

Many have wanted us to draft an OT in the next draft. Well that has quieted down a little bit. We are getting pretty good OT play and there are still what 3 guys backing up that position that we don't know a lot about. I am perplexed on the status of Nijman and he seems to be the odd man out. I don't expect to see him next season in GB but I don't know why. They put a lot of time and salary on improving him and now they are basically saying he is not for us and I don't really know why.

Anyway, as I mentioned earlier in this post, we are playing on house money in my opinion. So what ever happens on Sunday happens. I want them to win of course but if they don't that is not the end of the world either and normally it seems to be. I am pretty satisfied what we learned we have this year except for a few positions.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 06, 2024 at 02:32 pm

Great post Hawk.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 06, 2024 at 06:21 pm

House money starts next week. Love had his ups and downs but he's played more than well enough to get into the playoffs.

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TxFred's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:04 pm

De bears are only dangerous from the standpoint of being a "spoiler" and that is bad.
Basically, Cory you are right they are toothless.
The spoiler roll would suit them just fine. From that standpoint they'll do anything to win. Dangerous.
CURE: A big time ass kicking right from the first play to 00. GPG!!!!!

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PyschoDad3's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:49 pm

By now it should be pretty clear (as it has been to most of us for years) where the problems are. We will see just what the DC and special teams coordinators bring to the table on Sunday. Here's hoping they play aggressive and find a way to deal with a running QB. Sure the defense looked great last week, but against a couple of 3rd stringers?
If its true that offense is execution, and defense is emotion, then I think the team is at least halfway there, What is concerning to me is whether the defense believes and has the emotion to go out and leave it all out there on the field. I certainly hope so. If they do, then maybe we won't have to listen to another post game press conference full of weak ass excuses. Go Pack Go! Since '67

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cheesehead1's picture

January 06, 2024 at 12:57 pm

Defense needs to get a couple of turnovers.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:45 am

Rasul has been a turnover machine.

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CanPackFan's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:31 pm

Yes, this is yet another statement game for LaFleur. To date, he has guided his teams very poorly in statement games. But remember, in those games, he had to coach around Rodgers. He doesn't have to do that for this one. So, will we see the true LaFleur factor for this one?

As per the D, Barry's defense actually plays pretty well in statement games - hard to believe, but yes. Detroit last year, only 20 points. The NFC championship game where the offense and STs were pitiful in that defeat. But given what Barry has brought to the table this year, I don't know if he'll bring his A game to this dance? As I've said in the past, Barry's consistently inconsistent. The D could be tough or they could play like they did against the Giants, Panthers, Detroit (first game), Vegas or Broncos? Will the competent Joe Barry please show up?! Please...

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White92's picture

January 06, 2024 at 01:37 pm

I agree with the gist of your article Corey. Sadly this game reminds me of the last playoff game at Lambeau as it relates to MLF. Prior to that game he held on to a ST coach that should have been fired weeks before and it ultimately cost them the game. I hop it doesn't repeat with Barry.

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Dragon5's picture

January 06, 2024 at 03:28 pm

I have no problem discerning homerism from logic. I'll be rooting Pack, but given our shortcomings in important games, particularly at home versus a running QB playing for his job, significantly improved Bears D, and yes, we still have a nagging dingleBarry...I'll go with that trend over the current 9 game win streak over the Bears. We have to be honest with ourselves--we didn't learn much from squashing a clueless rookie QB led MIN squad last week: boost in confidence perhaps...more likely--inflated egos begging to have some air let out of their heads. Last week was a RARE example where no post-game accountability was needed between the likes of MLF & Barry. Fight or flight in Fields should be like a cornered dog...expect him to bite...HARD...and if his teammates are truly behind him, you'll see them overachieve as well...doesn't bode well for our (soft) coach.

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White92's picture

January 07, 2024 at 05:42 am

I can't say that you are wrong, but I hope you are

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GVPacker's picture

January 06, 2024 at 04:45 pm

Key to this game Is Jordan Love! If he can keep the Packers Defense off the field while moving the Offense up and down the field
then the Packers will win this! Don't give Joe Dingle Barry a chance to screw this up!

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dobber's picture

January 06, 2024 at 06:59 pm

If the Packers don't turn the ball over, I think the Bears will struggle to put drives together or put up 7s.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 07, 2024 at 09:53 am

JL10 plays pretty consistently. I would say the bigger variable is winning in the trenches. Look at that KC game; our linemen simply decided they WERE going to win their 1 on 1 matchups, they did, and it was a thing of beauty.

I think Chicago is a lesser opponent in that respect, and our O line has improved since. Will they all play their best? Jenkins and Tom I have no concerns with, they've both consistently been ROCKS. Rhyan has improved substantially, as has Walker. Myers gets pushed around but the offensive unit seems to have built that into their game plan and makes it work. On run plays, sometimes he does move people off the ball.

I think our run game is important today. Even if it's not a dominant performance, if it's at least a part of the game ...

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golfpacker1's picture

January 07, 2024 at 11:45 am

Running QBs always get hurt or dinged up. Thats why a good Oline is so important. GB need to rough up Fields as much as possible. That will lead to turnovers of which we haven't had many. A couple TOs swings this game to us strongly.

We also seem to be getting healthier at the right time. For this game for sure and a big chance for playoff experience for this young team. I am not predicting some big playoff run, but just getting there would be huge for next year and the future.

Big days from Aaron Jones and Alexander today are a must. I expect JL to have a good game today. Being at home and with our Oline playing better are 2 big pluses for us. Walker and Rhyan's improved play are covering up our weakness at center, and I expect the line will shine today. Maybe we won't need to spend our 1st pick on OT after all. We can fill that hole at Safety instead, after trading back for more high picks. We can still get a really good OT like Morgan or Guyton in the second.

The strengths of the draft are at positions of need for us this year. Safety, RB, Edge, LB, OLine, can all be had in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds. I am looking forward to the draft again, but I would love to stretch this season out a little longer if possible.

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