Cory's Corner: Rosenhaus Won And Gutekunst Lost

A one-year, $7 million deal to go to a team that just lost its starting quarterback. Why couldn't the Packers match that? 

The more I try to get the Aaron Jones situation out of my head, the more it confounds me. 

It just doesn’t make any sense. 

The eccentric and speedy running back accepted a one-year deal for $7 million from the Minnesota Vikings. 

“My agent had called me before all of that happened, told me it was a possibility, so my mind was already prepared, and I just wanted to go where I felt wanted,” said Jones in his Vikings introductory press conference. 

In 2023, Jones shaved his salary by $5 million and in 2024, the Packers were asking the seven-year pro that has averaged 848 rushing yards a season to take a $7 million haircut. 

That’s a big mistake by Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst. I’m not saying that Gutekusnt shouldn’t feel tentative about a smaller-framed running back that turns 30 in December that missed six games last year.

But the obvious question remains: Why couldn’t the Packers give Jones a one-year, $7 million deal? Part of that answer lies with his agent Drew Rosenhaus, one of the biggest money hungry agents in pro sports. He knew that the Packers only wanted to bring Jones back on their terms and the moment that window passed, he knew that he had to find the best deal for his client. 

A one year deal makes the most sense for Jones. It’s a prove-it contract and if he does well playing behind a questionable quarterback and a very good offensive line, he could get handsomely rewarded. 

But Jones is also a Packers all-timer. No matter how many times he yells out the Skol chant, does he really want to go to a place that looks like it’s hitting the reset button on offense? Gutekunst was testing Jones’ loyalty and played chicken with it. Now, if the Packers came back with a one-year deal worth $7 million after the Vikings offer, why wouldn’t he take it?

It’s a system that he knows and trusts. He is surrounded by familiarity. And he has a coach that truly wants his body to get right before succumbing him to punishing hits and a boatload of carries. Jones probably could’ve played more games last year, but Packers coach Matt LaFleur knew that having the heart and soul 100 percent for the stretch run was more important than a Week 12 win. 

And that’s why Gutekunst made a mistake. The Packers were willing to let their best offensive player sit on the bench just to make sure that if a playoff run coalesced, he would be there with his tights and cape. 

I know you have to respect the salary cap, but there is always a way to dance around it. Then again, if the Packers offered a one-year, $7.5 deal, Rosenhaus probably would’ve said it wasn’t enough. 

Not having Jones hurts, but the way it went down hurts even more. No matter how many purple sombreros or purple sunglasses he has, deep down he wanted to come back to Green Bay. Not just because he loved it here, but because it was the perfect fit for a versatile running back.

Gutekunst had a chance to have the best backfield in the league, but he let Rosenhaus win. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:30 am

Jones: "I just wanted to go where I felt wanted"

This explains everything. Gutekunst, LaFleur, and his teammates had all said repeatedly and strongly that they loved Jones and wanted him back--but apparently that wasn't enough to "feel wanted."
What WAS enough? More money.
None of us felt like money was ever Jones main goal, before, so how did that happen?

He hired the king of insinuation to be his agent. Every Rosenhaus client chants that same mantra after his poisonous words drip in their ears. "Only money proves they want you (because their love and respect make ME no money)."
"They are disrespecting you (if I make less money on your contract)."
"Money...er...respect, ...is what matters, and respect is only shown through money--you can't possibly be happy if I, I mean YOU, make less money."
You'll be HAPPIER in Minnesota with all my money...er...your RESPECT...than you would have among a full team of loving friends and a well-known environment and offense and coaches and loving fanbase!"

Loooong ago (How old IS Rosenhaus?) I said I would not hire/keep anyone who took him on as their agent. He's a cut-your-losses -and-move-on agent. Toxic.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:03 am

Not sure what you mean in your last paragraph, but agree with the rest of it!

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:19 am

He means that rosenhaus is a pos as a human and that he wouldnt do business with him.

pretty clear to me.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:03 pm

Yeah, I thought it implied he was a GM or something.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:17 pm

I agree I could have said that better, but I was in a hurry! 😃

I meant, If I was a GM, and one of my players switched to Rosenhaus, I wouldn’t even bother trying to negotiate with him.
I’d give up on that player, cut my losses, and move on.
I believe trying to deal with a toxic agent can poison your team chemistry.
I wish every team would do that to Rosenhaus.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:52 pm

I am with you.
Kinda like when Corbin Burnes hired Scott Boras. Not sure anybody expected the Brewers to be able to re-sign him, but to me the most telling remark (and I forgot who said it) was “You don’t hire Scott Boras to re-sign with the hometown team.”

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murf7777's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:51 am

Out of respect from AJ’s point of view about being loved and/or respected. When you are asked two consecutive years to take a pay cut, that hurts as a human being, especially what he achieved the last 5 games of the year, and yes, that affects feelings toward the other. I don’t think Rosenhaus made the difference.

The difference is the Packers made their decision and AJ made his, only time will determine who made the right move. For a person, Winning isn’t everything and neither is money, but feelings are. His feelings were hurt so bad he decided to go to the Vikings!

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:42 pm

Maybe AJ should vote against the next Collective Bargaining agreement, because that's what created the situation he was in.

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Jqueen30's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:03 am

Jones still made a lot of money with us

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lou's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:58 am

My impression of Rosenhaus goes back to when he represented Terrell Owens and Owens became the talk of the league holding out. Rosenhaus held a press conference while T.O. did pushups in the drive way (but would not answer any questions) and when Rosenhaus got a reporters question he didn't want to answer his answer was "no comment". What a Circus, T.O. was the main attraction and Rosenhaus was the clown. People forget, T.O. ended up going bankrupt, sounds like Rosenhaus really managed his money well, Jones needs to keep an eye on the books going forward.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 16, 2024 at 12:28 pm

Agents aren't in charge of how players spend their money. Blaming Rosenhaus for how TO spent or invested his money is ridiculous.

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PackerHotDish's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:46 am

It's greed, Baby and Rosenhaus is the kingmaker! It's wrecking football and the team concept. Holds true for all sports these days, not just here!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 17, 2024 at 04:29 am

GB wanted Jones back so much that they asked for a 63% pay cut. True, Jones missed 32% of the season, but he played in 13 of 19 possible games. And he had a whopping 62% running success rate.

Yeah, Gute said he wanted him back, and even said he absolutely be back. What a load. I wouldn't feel wanted, either. Watch what they do, not what they say.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:10 am

It's not personal Sonny, it's business.

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barutanseijin's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:56 am

I too root for the boss.

C’mon man. It’s show business. These guys are risking life and limb — especially running backs! It’s absurd to expect them to take less than the maximum amount they can wring out of teams. Rosenhaus is just doing his job for his clients.

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Jqueen30's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:05 am

Dudes 1 hamstring away from being the backup

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:42 am

Cory writes an article with the narrative Rosenhaus Won and Gutekuenst Lost", but near the end he finally observes:

"Then again, if the Packers offered a one-year, $7.5 deal, Rosenhaus probably would’ve said it wasn’t enough."

In other words: "Never mind".

I have read last late week, after the Packers gave Rosenhaus their 2024 $6 M compensation package, the Agent closed the door to further negotiations...walked away from the table. Meanwhile Gutey urgently moved to secure Jacobs.

After Jacobs was announced, a few hours later, Jones signed with MN for a $7 M deal.

Did Rosenhaus call the Packers before agreeing with the Ugly Purple? Or did Rosenhaus keep the door closed?

Did he use the Vikings offer to try to ignite a bidding war? Or did he tell Jones "I got you another $ million from the Vikings...and it's really going to PO the Packers!"

I don't know what happened late last week after Rosenhaus walked away from the table. Neither does Cory.

But another $1 M to play for the Ugly Purple with QB issues on turf for one of the lowest marquee FA RB deals this season is "winning"?

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:45 pm

"In other words: "Never mind"."

Funny, that's what I think of when I glance at Cory's story headline.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 16, 2024 at 03:15 pm

Truer words never spoken

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10ve 💚's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:14 pm

It's Cory...

Cory's articles are always of the "Never mind" variety.

The reason I read his articles is because he writes for CheeseheadTV and he is a big Packers fan. At least he has cleaned up his spelling and grammar quite a bit.

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barutanseijin's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:58 am

I’m just here for the comments.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:05 am

Pick one: Jones for one year or JJ for 4?

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:22 am

not the issue

pick one

Jones and Jacobs

or

Jacobs and Dillon

or

Jones and Dillon redux

I would have loved to see Jones and Jacobs, but that combo has the highest price tag and may have been undoable from a roster building/salary cap standpoint.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:04 pm

Jacobs was only in play after Jones was out. (At least, that’s how I understand the situation.)

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 03:07 pm

cmon TK, the timing of the Jacobs signing certainly indicates that GB was in contact with his people well before AJ/Gutey/Rosenturd closed the negotiating door.

The dominos fell far too quickly for that whole scenario to be linear...

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:48 pm

Yeah, I really can’t say I have any idea how quickly that stuff goes. You might be right. Or maybe GB just made a big offer knowing that lots of teams had interest in Jacobs. (At least, JJ claimed he’d heard from like a dozen teams, but playing with 10 and all those good young receivers was a big factor.)

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:51 am

TKW,
"Pick one: Jones for one year or JJ for 4?"
4 years, are you certain?
Vegas let him walk and Gutey wrote an easy-out contract. Looks to me like there was some concern about that on both ends.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:02 am

As there is and should be with each and every NFL player.

They are always one snap away from "career over".

Insurance policies can cover for some of the risk, however the salary cap doesn't recognize insurance payments as 'negative' entries on the ledger.

The money driven way the league is run dictates the terms of employment for the players. The NFLPA sees to that each and every day as they wrestle with the owners to get every dollar they can for their members and the owners use every trick in the book to hold onto each and every dollar they can keep ahold of amidst the pushing, shoving, grabbing and gnashing of financial teeth.

Anyone who speaks of the game as a sport with performance and pride above financial concerns should turn off all media channels as soon as the Super Bowl is over.

The off-season is ALL about finances. Each decision made is tainted by dollar signs and the most egregious violations of humanity, pride, character, integrity or other human foible are all certainly dollar-driven.

Don't look at the mangled auto if you don't want to see blood.

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PackerHotDish's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:54 am

Couldn't have said it any better JB. Humanity has left the building!

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:07 pm

No, I should have written “up to 4”. I agree that having an easy out IS a good thing, due to the fact there is no sure thing in the NFL.
But it appeared to me that at age 29, Jones was not/is not a long term, big money option.

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Oppy's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:07 am

How do we know the Packers didn't offer Aaron Jones $7M to play in Green Bay?

What we know for sure is that the Packers were asking Jones to take a pay cut. Everyone knew that was going to happen- the number for Jones' 2024 season is the kind of number that is a built in poison pill. It's a number so large that both the team and the player understand it isn't going to be paid- it's intentionally inflated to force both sides back to the bargaining table and work on a new deal, or the player and the team part ways.

What we do know is that the Packers and Jones' representation went back and forth for 2 weeks before the Packers gave them "their final offer." Jones' team attempted to negotiate on that final offer. It was, apparently, final.

That final offer could have been $6 Million. It could have been $8 Million. Whatever it was, Rosenhaus apparently didn't understand what "final offer" meant, and pushed back. At that point, the Packers released Jones, and he signed with MN.

It is what it is. Nobody likes seeing Aaron Jones released, and nobody likes seeing him in purple, but lamenting will not change a thing. On to the future.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:27 am

Very well put!

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:17 am

Cory Gute was after Jonathan Taylor.
He was never happy with Jones.
He never wanted to pay him in the first place.
It’s more than just his agent.
It’s feeding FANS beliefs, that they are dependent on HIM.
Four words, not letters, some up Jones departure.
The Glory of Gute.
Jones did the right thing.
He wasn't going to let Gute turn
Lambeau into a prison.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:32 am

Don’t forget.
The Grassy.
Noll.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:40 am

Thats a rabbit hole -
Watch the smoking Gun.
The ER room is another mystery.
Cover-ups happen.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:12 pm

Um, I think you mean “Naked” Gun…Leslie Nielsen was hilarious. Good movie recommendation, don’t mind if I do.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:42 pm

No - The movie is the smoking gun.
Ballistics , A AR 15, a book. Witnesses.
Cover-up?

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:25 am

knoll...

just sayin...

Noll was a hell of a coach, but he was not very grassy...

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:13 pm

Wasn’t Grassy Freddie Blassie a wrestling manager?

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:33 pm

We really should include Greasy Neale in this discussion.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:34 pm

No discussion of any sort should completely ignore Francis Louis "Jug" Earp.

The Juggernaut, "Jug" for short, played on both the offensive and defensive lines for the Packers over 11 seasons from 1922 to 1932 after starting his professional football career with the Rock Island franchise in 1921.

Interestingly, Jug was from the famous Earp law-enforcement family tree. True that.

Jug was 6'0" and around 240 lbs. I couldn't find his RAS listed anywhere...

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Oppy's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:40 am

Imagine living in a world where a good man just trying his best to do his job and serve the best interests of the franchise looks like an egomaniacal power grab.

Stockholder, you might actually need help.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:54 am

might?

Might?

MIGHT?

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:09 pm

In addition, I do not understand how building the best roster possible makes him self-serving.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:33 pm

When individuals disengage from concern for one another by becoming increasingly competitive, manipulative, and self-serving, morality is eroded.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:41 pm

While it is true that increased competitiveness and self-serving behavior can potentially erode morality, it's important to recognize that human behavior is complex and multifaceted. Competitiveness and self-interest are not inherently immoral traits. In fact, they can drive innovation, productivity, and progress in various spheres of life, including sports.

Morality is a nuanced concept that involves a multitude of factors beyond individual behavior, including societal norms, cultural values, and institutional structures. It's overly simplistic to attribute the erosion of morality solely to individual actions of competitiveness and self-interest.

Fostering a sense of competition doesn't necessarily preclude concern for others. In many cases, healthy competition can coexist with empathy and compassion, leading individuals to strive for excellence while still considering the well-being of others. The 1960s Packers are a good example of that culture.

Rather than demonizing competitiveness and self-interest, efforts should be focused on promoting ethical behavior, empathy, and cooperation alongside healthy competition. By fostering a balance between individual ambition and communal welfare, we cultivate a more robust moral framework to better withstand the challenges of modern society.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:48 pm

I regret I have only one 👍 to give.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 03:16 pm

so it's winning or Nothing.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:26 pm

Good to see those minors in sociology and psychology paying off Leotis!!!

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Coach Cleve Steamer's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:45 pm

Yes, that’s a succinct way to put it. When people prioritize self-interest over empathy and cooperation, it can lead to a decline in personal relations with negative consequences for both moral and social bonds.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:50 pm

Yowza!

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Johnblood27's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:25 pm

AI crashing the pah-tee!

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:00 am

Geez stockholder,
I know you;re pissed, and I don't blame you, so am I.
So I'll partially agree with you and say:
Now that the Pack is considered SB contenders, Gutey doesn't want to get there on the heels of one of Ted Thompson's guys. Goodbye and good luck Showtyme, Kenny Clark is likely next.
OK, let the 'Thumbs Down' begin!

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:09 am

My thinking is SB contenders is not enough.
On another note-
Will Donald Driver be the last player to
retire a Packer? -

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Oppy's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:57 pm

Would you and Stockholder like to know the real truth about why Ted Thompson's draft picks are disappearing from the Packers roster?

TED THOMPSON'S LAST DRAFT WAS OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO.

7 years is more than twice the average NFL career length of 3.3 years
>That's about a rookie contract and gone from the league on average

First round draft picks have an average NFL Career length of 7.1 years
>That's roughly 2 contracts- 4 or 5 years on rookie deal, 2 or 3 on second, then gone

Pro Bowl players average a career length of 11.7 years.
>About 3-4 contracts, then gone (this is Kenny Clark territory.)

The average age of retirement for an NFL player is 27.6 years old
> Average age of an NFL rookie is between 23 and 24 years old

This really shouldn't have to be explained to anyone who follows football.
The oldest joke in the book is NFL stands for "Not For Long" for good reason.

To believe that Gutekunst is vindictively or self-servingly removing Ted Thompson's players from the roster is absolutely ridiculous. Ted has not had a draft since 2016/2017. Do the math. NFL Rosters are not static. Players come and go.

Good god, people.

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Z-Smith's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:13 pm

While I HIGHLY disagree with the release of Aaron Jones, Gute has 100% earned our trust and respect with the team he's built. It's insanity to suggest a general manager is having a power struggle with a player.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:46 pm

You really don't see the dishonesty, secrecy, or lies
behind the team he's built.
Sherman was a successful coach for 4 of his 5 years.
Yet TT hurried and Fired him after 1 bad season.
And the same thing is going to happen to MLF.
I only have to point to Rodgers, friendships and money.
To know that the power struggles are real.

The release of Jones was Bullshit.
It's official- Do as your told or your history.

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Oppy's picture

March 17, 2024 at 02:24 am

Sherman was fired not because of "1 bad season."
He was let go by Ted Thompson because they didn't see eye to eye on personnel.

Sherman was given role of HC / GM by Ron Wolf- a move that Wolf has said in retrospect he wish he hadn't of made. The Packers roster was rotting from within over Sherman's time at the helm.

When TT took over as GM, he attempted to work with Sherman going forward. He learned after a single season that there were hard feelings on Sherman's end about being stripped of his GM role that were insurmountable.

Thompson parted ways with Sherman specifically for that reason- and he's on the record stating as much.

For you to attempt to portray it as a decisive move based on 1 sub-par season out of 5 in order to somehow fit this into your anti-Gutekunst narrative and make MLF his next victim is either completely disingenuous or entirely ignorant of the situation.

We get it. You don't like Gutekunst. Stop with the ridiculous bullshit.

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stockholder's picture

March 17, 2024 at 07:51 am

If you got it - It wasn't BS.
From - 2000 to 2005. Sherman led the Packers to five consecutive winning seasons from 2000 to 2004 and three divisional titles in 2002, 2003, and 2004, but never advanced past the divisional round of the playoffs.
Despite receiving a contract extension earlier in the 2005 season.
When Fired-
TT said it wasn't because of the team's 4-12 record.
Thompson simply isn't convinced Sherman is the right person to carry the team into
the future, which might not "include Brett Favre."
(This was more thinking in terms of where we are
and where we need to get to.")

TT never brought up the GM duties.
Brett Favre WAS!!
I'm not portraying anything other than MLF
will be fired if he has a bad season.
For the same reasons Sherman was Fired.
For the same reasons MM was.
"Where we are and where they need to get too".
Your loyalty isn't to the team but the GM.

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barutanseijin's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:14 am

TT never gave BJ Sander a fair shake.

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hodge555's picture

March 16, 2024 at 07:51 am

Losing Jones hurts, no question.
Had Jones signed for £10+m it would have been more palatable but from what we are hearing of the circumstances of how this went down it also hurts.
It would have been a fantastic backfield to have had both Jacobs and Jones.
In that scenario, assuming no injuries, it would have made the most sense to have Jacobs as #1 and Jones as backup. It would have given Jones his chances and likely extended his career.
It has been reported that Jones wanted to be #1 so that could have been a bone of contention but that also might just be speculation.
Anyway, we are where we are.
The best of luck to Aaron going forward, except when playing again the Packers of course.
Go Pack Go

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:08 am

Hodge,
Where was it reported that Jones wanted to be #1?
I've never read that anywhere.
I've watched Jones congratulate teammates dozens and maybe hundreds of times, always seeming happy when they've succeeded and I've never seen him sulk when on the sidelines.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I've just never seen what you suggest, and therefore don't believe it. He always seemed like the ultimate Team Guy.

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hodge555's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:02 am

Houndog - I wholeheartedly agree with you, from everything I've seen of Jones he's a great teammate and just a stand up guy.
I think the "#1" comment was on one of the youtube reviews I'd seen recently so I added it for completeness but as mentioned I think it was likely just speculation on that person's part.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:45 pm

"Had Jones signed for £10+m..."

How much is that in Canadian currency?

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:51 pm

And how long is a metric season?
Still 17 games, or…?

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Matt's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:00 am

Thank you Cory, you calmed my mind down a little bit. I think you are right. I have always thought sport agents are an ulcer.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:02 am

Drew Rosenhaus is a tool just like most agents are. The bottom line is the more money his client makes is more money in Drews pocket, and that is ALL he cares about. It's too bad Aaron Jones is the one who got mixed up in this, but it is what it is. Time to move on, which is all the Packers are doing. Sentimentality doesn't win ballgames. Thanks Aaron Jones, we will welcome you back when you retire as a Packer.

Packers brass would have gladly kept AJ on the team for the right price, which apparently was very close to what we offered and what Rosenhaus accepted. It's obvious that Gute was planning for the future when he explored the Colts RB, Taylor. And that is just good business because players get older, get hurt more, and are replaced by younger players to keep giving the team a chance to win games. Just like when we drafted Love.

This will be a great draft for Green Bay. We don't need to trade up because multiple really good OL, which is our biggest need, are going to fall to us @ #25. And there will still be great choices if we move back some for more picks. The 2nd round picks will fall right at the top of the best Safeties and LBs. The 3rd round picks are in the strongest part of the RB group and CBs are strong there too. Or we can switch those picks around and get really good players at any of those needs.

The first 3 rounds will define this draft for us, 5 players that upgrade us at 5 positions. I predict that with Jacobs, the RB that we draft, and Dillon resigned as maybe RB3, we will have an even better running game than the last 3 years. Especially with 2 new stud O-Linemen in the fold.

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murf7777's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:02 am

I don’t think agents are “tools” unless you mean a tool for the player to get a proper contract for their abilities. They have a job to do and I have to believe most do that with the players desires in mind. As fans, we don’t like it when their negotiating goes against our team. I get it. BUT, After two years of demanding AJ take pay cuts or be cut, I think the Packers hurt AJ’s feelings to a level he checked out and he directed his agent to do what he wanted. I think its a lot of conjecture and really none of us know for sure.

I like your idea of taking an OL in the first round. I”m not sold on this line right now and believe we need another starter. I want them to take at least two throughout the draft and think Gutey will.

#buildthetrenches

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10ve 💚's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:29 pm

"BUT, After two years of demanding AJ take pay cuts or be cut, I think the Packers hurt AJ’s feelings to a level he checked out and he directed his agent to do what he wanted"

"Pay cut?" What pay cut?

There are no "pay cuts" given, or taken. None.

The original contracts are always bloated up, but written in such a way that the player can be cut or without too much losses if he underperforms (or re-negotiated). The average year amount is the only true representation of the value of the player in the current year. He may become better, he may become worse.

Thus contracts are re-negotiated. At the time of re-negotiation, the player gets the money he deserves, based on his skill and importance to the team. The contract with Jones was renegotiated last time based on his skill and importance to the team. If Jones had gotten much better, you can bet that the re-negotiated contract would have risen in value.

Right now we cannot say who has won or lost. What Jones seems to have forgotten is that Packers kept his health in mind and did not put too much load on him. Why do RBs in general have a very short playing life? Because they get battered up with too many carries. Packers have been spreading carries quite a bit. RBs should be very happy with their team if they get to share their load with a RB2.

Jones may find that he gets too many carries in Purple, and his health could suffer. Or maybe not. But it's entirely possible that he could get battered up severely, as the Purps may decide to overload him due to their QB situation. In that case it would be Jones who loses, heavily.

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skydancer506's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:59 pm

"It's too bad Aaron Jones is the one who got mixed up in this..."

Remember, it was Aaron Jones who hired Drew Rosenhaus to begin with. Also, it sounds like Jones was already told by Rosenhaus that there was a possibility of having to go elsewhere before negotiations began with Gutekunst. Aaron Jones knew full well that when this negotiation period came to a close, he might not be a Packer anymore. Caveat Emptor - Buyer Beware.

Gutey seems to be the smart one in all of this. When Drew closed negotiations, he found a FA RB who is just as good (some would argue even better), is a few years younger and has an agent not named Drew Rosenhaus. In chess, this would be called check...mate!

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CoachJV's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:06 am

Whether it was Gute or the agent, somebody played hardball and Everybody lost... Nobody wins this.
Jones loses the place he wanted to retire, GB loses a great potential tandem, and the Queens lose too because they could have used Jones' money to build around a new QB. Seems like the only winner here is the agent whose percentage got bigger.

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:10 am

Well said, Coach

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CheeseEdWest2's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:36 am

What I don't get is a high quality person like Aaron Jones hiring DR as his agent. It seems out of character, a mix of oil and water destined to a bad ending. Did someone get in his ear and persuade Jones that he needed that kind of muscle to get more money? Would AJ put what sounds like a small difference in the final figure in the way of coming to the Packers, or did DR poison the well of harmony and history? I have to put some of this on AJ for hiring this guy as his agent, knowing his track record.

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CoachJV's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:33 am

So you're gonna put hiring DR as a ding on AJ??? Is that what I'm hearing?

And when you were just 22 years old, coming of college and into the REAL world for the first time, would you not hire the guy who's going to get you the most money? If you say "No", you're either a liar or stupid.

Get off your high moral horse.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 16, 2024 at 03:22 pm

I'll disagree, the Packers clearly won. Josh Jacobs > Aaron Jones.

I love the narrative here that somehow poor Aaron Jones was led astray by his agent. AJ is a grown man, he has plenty of agency. He HIRED Drew Rosenhaus. He fired the first shots.

He can take his 6-8 games per season and dress them in purple. He's dead to me.

Gutekunst won this battle, Heisenberg lives.

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CoachJV's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:36 am

That reads like it was spoken by a guy who is a "hat with a gluteus maximus in it."

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 17, 2024 at 12:25 pm

I think it's cute that you think Aaron Jones is incapable of having made his own decisions. Hang onto that.

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Jqueen30's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:15 am

It would be one thing if Vikings offered a lot of money or if he would be the difference maker for them but none of that is true. I get players always wanting more money, it is wat it is. But this didn't seem like Jones, Jones was a team first guy, loved his teammates guy. He was also on a really good up and coming team. And you throw all that away over a little bit of money?? As much as I love Jones, dudes a walking hamstring

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cdoemel's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:49 am

Yeah Coach sounds like you should stay at the JV level. Aaron Jones didn’t have Rosenhaus as an agent when he was 22. He got him a year ago after he took the initial pay cut. So shut the fuck up.

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Packers0808's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:07 am

My take is ego and pride played a big role here on Jones' part. He didn't want to be second fiddle to a new and younger guy. I am sure $'s made a difference but not as big a part as seen much of the money he was asked to give up would be going to a new guy in the same room with him. Jones actually by a long run lowered his sights unknowingly by signing with the Vikings that will come to him at some point. His agent is really the one who stuck it to him.

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Since'61's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:14 am

IMO the Packers lost Aaron Jones for no reason. They could have and should have given Aaron Jones a one year prove it deal that either met or exceeded the Vikings offer. The Packers have lost their best offensive player, the player who made the offense go and a great team and locker room guy. When he was on the field Jones gave the Packers everything he had. Plus he helped and supported his team mates. And he was an excellent representative for the Packers on and off the field.

In return we have Josh Jacobs. The only advantage that Jacobs currently has over over Jones is that he is 3 years younger. Will he perform better than Jones? Maybe. Will he be a team leader like Jones? Maybe. Will he represent the Packers as well as Jones? Maybe. What we do know is that he is being paid more than Jones likely would have been paid had he remained and there is nothing that guarantees that he will play up to his new contract now that his money is signed, sealed, and delivered. Will he give the Packers everything he has the way Jones did on every play? We'll see.

I fully realize that 2024 would have been Jones last year in Green Bay regardless of how much he was paid for the 2024 season. But I also realize that there would be another RB the Packers could sign for 2025 or draft Jones' replacement in 2024 and have him ready for 2025. Not allowing Jones to probably finish his career in Green Bay just leaves a bad taste ni my mouth especially since he has now signed with the Vikings for $7 million.

Gute could have found a way to retain Jones especially after he called him the "heart and soul" of the team. It just shows that Gute will say anything to the fans while having no loyalty or respect for the players or the fans.

The Packers need to improve the interior of their OL, improve their LB position group and their Safety position. At least they have begun improving at Safety with the signing of McKinney which is a good move by Gute. But letting Jones leave in the manner it was handled diminishes Gute in my eyes. It was not necessary. But we've seen Gute chuck veteran players before and as Jones said 'nothing that happens in this league surprises me." That's pretty much where I'm at with the league these days and why I'm finding it harder and harder to enjoy watching the games any longer. Thanks, Since '61

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Guam's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:57 am

I very much share your grief at losing Aaron Jones. He was the consummate professional and Green Bay Packer on and off the field. However I can't put this all on Gute. Jones chose to hire Drew Rosenhaus and Rosenhaus has a reputation as an over-the-top hard ball agent.

You don't make that hire unless you are going to war with the team that employes you. And that hire seems so out of character for Jones that I can only assume it was in response to the $5 million pay cut from a year ago. I think Jones felt underappreciated (to put it mildly) and wanted to extract the most he could from the Packers.

Another million may not have been enough to keep Jones in Green Bay even if it did match the Viking's offer. We will probably never know what Jones/Rosenhaus were asking from the Packers. Gute stood his ground on what he believed was a fair offer and Jones/Rosenhaus stood their ground on what they thought was a fair counter offer. Sometimes negotiations just go like that.

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HawkPacker's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:03 am

Since'61, I can't think of any packer fan that did not want AJ on the team next year, including myself.

My thought is that Gute wanted him as well but based on CAP numbers, he could only pay him so much. I think GM's probably break down how much they can afford to pay by position such as rb, qb, cb, etc. I just don't think he thought that we could afford more for that position. I have to believe that he will draft a rb with similar skills tha AJ has and he would have done that even if he signed Jones for one year.

We have to think that he still may want to add a couple FA's as ILB/SAF. These positions are still positions of need for us and I don't think we want to draft these positions and rely on them as starters right away. This is going to take more Cap money and I don't think Gute wants to kick much more Cap down the road.

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murf7777's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:11 am

I agree with your feelings…..what we also don’t know is if the Packers weren’t confident that Jones can stay healthy and didn’t want to take that risk. It’s the ol’ saying cut em a year early vs late. Fans hate this when we do this to players like AJ, just like when they did it to Jordy Nelson and others over the years.

The reality, the NFL is a tough business, especially due to the hard salary cap rules and to be a consistent contender you need to make decisions with you mind and not your heart. Doesn’t mean your mind will be right, but more times than not when making these type of decisions with your heart it’s the wrong one.

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DougXX57's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:18 am

ok I get you drift, BUT what if Jones got hurt again? then what? I see the most carries he ever had in a game for GB was 15.. averaged 12 a game.. that is not going to cut it if you are the main back. Even with the games he had at the end, he never carried more than15 carries and Love throwing the ball also was a big factor in Jones having a great 5 games. Good luck to Jones, but now we have a horse who can carry the load and we will see how that goes

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:20 am

"I see the most carries he ever had in a game for GB was 15.. averaged 12 a game.."

That's not even remotely accurate. In his last 5 games alone with GB last season he had 18/21/22/20/21 carries. He's never been a "bell cow" type back, but to say he's never had more than 15 carries in a game is nonsense.

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Coldworld's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:29 am

Jones is not a solution for long. As a GM that has to be a factor in the thinking. He doesn’t fit the timeline of this current roster and thus, stay or leave, we needed to be looking to find one that covered our needs in 2025 and beyond. Jones could have perhaps been part of that as a managed luxury piece but not as the star back.

Given the above, it was an odd time to play hardball. At risk a spot on a team that managed his snaps, that he knows and has a style that suits him and an increasingly potent O around him. That’s something to value as a later career player.

From a team perspective a shot at longevity past the point of reliance as a player who can shoulder the team necessitates realism on the part of the player as to role an body on the light of the need to have another lead player alongside him at the position as he moves from focus to luxury.

Jones’ team seems to have missed this reality completely. Either that or decided to bluff their way through it. Playing hardball missed the point, pushed the Packers to invest in a new lead back now not by the development behind Jones route. Once that happened where are the snaps going? The cost/value balance shifts further. It makes it perhaps less feasible and certainly less likely that Jones would be paid as a lead back too.

Perhaps Jones purple patch (couldn’t resist) at the end of last season distorted his reality. In all honesty, at 29 that’s a unique outlier for him. Does he see that as the new norm? If so the odds are he’s wrong. The chances are that’s not going to be sustained at all or over a season even if he’s fully healthy.

Jones’ camp in my view tried to strong arm an inflated deal and lost. They ended up moving teams to a situation that looks less promising in terms of what’s around him and in terms of workload. The Vikings have no loyalty to Jones. The Vikings appear to be entering a year before a major transition. Jones is a bridge paid not much more than he would have been here and asked to do a lot more.

I get Cory is stirring as usual, as is his won’t. As for us fans, I get the emotion. Despite the above I’m pissed at the outcome: I wanted to watch Jones, but his agency team lost perspective and picked the worst timing and terrain to play hardball on my view. The Vikings contract grabbed so rapidly is just a face-saver. No one wins except maybe the Vikings, who likely won’t win much this year regardless.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones is a free agent next year at 30 going on 31 and coming from a team done by December, looking for a cheaper deal. I believe he will come to regret hiring Rosenhaus and recognize that his agent blew it to his detriment over time.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:24 pm

This wasn't Jones team.
It was Americas team.
The cowboys got beat.
Americas team is now the KC chiefs.

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Oppy's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:07 am

There wasn't a bidding war for AJ's services. The Packers and Jones could not come to terms, and the Packers released him.

Jones went to and signed with Minnesota. There was no opportunity for the Packers to "match" what Minnesota offered him. There is also no proof that the Packers didn't offer more than what Jones ended up signing for at some time during the last two weeks.

It is what it is.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:58 pm

"It is what it is."

Complete truth in your post, Oppy, but you know what it is? It is that John Runyan Jr signed a three-year $30 million contract with the Giants with $17 million guaranteed, and Darnell Savage Jr signed a three year, $21.75 million contract with the Jaguars. $12.5 million is fully guaranteed including a $5 million signing bonus. Aaron Jones signed for $7 million.

None of those salaries make sense for any of the teams or players involved. It is what it is, indeed.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:54 pm

Indubitably.
(I borrowed that.)

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:27 am

'61,
I agree wholeheartedly, espescially on "letting Jones leave in the manner it was handled diminishes Gute in my eyes." My thoughts exactly! In Gutey's eyes Jones is a 'Ted Thompson guy, not mine'.

I think that Jones just got tired of being the guy the "We're Not Idiots" group went to every time they needed more money to pay someone else which resulted in him hiring Rosenhaus.
When CMIII was set to announce his retirement he publicly voiced his desire to sign a one day contract to officially retire as a Packer. To my knowledge the Packers' never responded.
The "Not Idiot" guys certainly do not have the Class of the former regimes that built the organization.

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justjan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:58 am

" In Gutey's eyes Jones is a 'Ted Thompson guy, not mine'. ". Crazy talk.

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stockholder's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:24 pm

Maybe we need to bring in some more sour grapes
from Campbell.
On how GB treats players on their way out.
From Rodgers defending players to -
When it's a business until it's not.

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Boneman's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:21 am

Sorry to everyone who loves AJ, but this IS the Packer way. If Jones wanted to end his career in GB he needed to take the Packer deal, whatever it was. I think too many people were bedazzled by those last 5 games. What are the odds of that ever happening again? Very slim. We got a younger, bigger version with JJ and will undoubtedly pick up a RB in the drafts top 100. We also have a desperate AJ Dillon coming back with his career on the line. You can bet he will be in the best shape of his life. I think we have definitely improved.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:56 pm

Keeping guys too long is not what they do. Not always popular. Maybe not even always right.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 16, 2024 at 08:37 am

Rosenhaus probably did win a decent commission for himself peddling Jones to the Ugly Purple for $7 M...but the Packers didn't "lose" to the Agent. That's silly.

The Packers lost the services of a great Packer and Leader a year before most fans expected. It happens a lot in Green Bay to stars nearing the end. The wages of time is physical decline and it happens to us all.

I truly wish Jones, one of my favorite Packers of all time, the very best. I am not at all convinced Rosenhaus "won" for his client.

Jones just stated "after the Packer released me, I immediately went to the Vikings." Appears Jones is where he next wanted to be...or his Agent convinced him to go there as he would be the "lead back" behind a journeyman QB. Jones better be ready. He's going to get the ball...a lot...on turf.

Why did Jones only attract $7 M and for only one year? I expect the Ugly Purple knows his pitch count.

For his career as a Packer, Jones has averaged 12 carries PER GAME. His most carries per game in a season was 15...in 2019!

I am not sure where Jones "immediately went to" is going to be a winning opportunity.

I am sure I am putting down the book of Jones and picking up the Adventures of Packer Josh Jacobs. Moving on.

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crayzpackfan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:09 am

How come every single article in here is about AJ or guys we lost along with Josh Jacobs? Many here wanted Xavier McKinney, we got him, and I don't think I have seen more than one writing in here about him since. It's becoming extremely repetitive lately. There's beating a dead horse and then there's clubbing it while rigor mortis is now running its course. Let's stop poking sticks into roadkill here and freshen it up. Xavier McKinney, all things draft, other free agents we should look at, pro days Packers should attend, who should the Packers send invites to, how is the NFC North shaping up, favorite pop tart flavors. Please?

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:15 am

Xavier just gave a long interview to the local reporters. I was very impressed with the young man.

I am not a tat guy, but for those who are, he has some interesting art on him.

I am impressed with people who answer the question asked with thoughtfulness and clarity...the man exudes intelligence.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:58 pm

“the man exudes intelligence.”

And THAT is why he fits in so well with us!

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:26 am

crayzpackfan, great post and you made me laugh with that one. That clubbing it while rigor mortis is a a great line.

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GregC's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:35 pm

I share your annoyance to some extent, but I do think it's worthwhile to discuss what happened with Aaron Jones because it reveals a lot about how the Packer front office does business. Looking on the bright side, we have plenty of time to talk about Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney before the season begins. I'm excited to have both of them on board.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:00 pm

CPF: brown sugar cinnamon, baby!

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DougXX57's picture

March 16, 2024 at 09:12 am

after reading the story on why they moved on, I get it. they offered a cut and the agent Drew said nope and so it developed pretty quick. They contacted Jacobs who signed the deal and Jones and his agent, who is a very tough agent and loves the cash, moved on. 1 M more than GB offered. I will miss Jones, but he was hurt last year and they struggled running the ball when he was out. It's a business and we will see how it turns out. Jacobs is a very good back as is Jones.. I trust Guke and he seems ot be pretty good making these choices. we will see

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Tex49's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:02 am

The only thing Jones has to prove is can a smaller rb approaching 30 stay healthy. I love Jones he’s this generations Donald Diver… or was. Jones was a catalyst for the big end of year push but the best ability is availability and you pay for what a player can do not what they have done. I don’t see Jones bucking the trend of Minnesota being the metaphorical graveyard of former packer stars.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:23 am

READER ALERT: Just another CJJ click bait article - with an absurd headline.

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NFLfan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:25 am

My guess is Jones didn't want to take a paycut but I bet he didn't want this outcome either. Somewhere along the line the plot was lost. I put the onus on the agent.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:28 am

Here's how I would have looked at it if I were Jones: I'm not getting a long-term contract from anyone; that's almost certain. I played in less than half the games last year, and my last six were great. However, I have to prove I can play an entire season as the lead back because LaFleur isn't going to do the alternating backs thing again. They offered $6 million? I can get $7 million somewhere else? To hell with that extra mil; I'll gamble on taking less because of all the positives: Matt will take care of me, we have a great young team, I love Green Bay, and they love me here, and maybe I'll have a great year that allows me to sign another deal. Sorry, Drew, I'm staying.

The fact that Gute even offered him a deal when a potential Jacobs deal was available shows how much they wanted Jones back. Offering even $7 mill probably wasn't going to get it done.

I think Jones made a mistake and probably knows it now. It's not Gute's fault. Jones should have taken the deal.

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Houndog's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:47 am

I disagree Johnny,
Who knows more about Jones' value to the team than MLF? So........
If "Matt will take care of me", why didn't Matt jump in and find a way to make it work?
If 'Matt' feels differently, he did hell of of job with a bullshit 'Thank you Aaron Jones' goodbye speech.
"If you're not part of the cure, you're part of the problem".

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JohnnyLogan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 04:21 pm

Hound, I don't think Matt could have done anything to make it work. The Packers offered Jones what they thought he was worth to them. I think a one-year $8 million offer would have been better than the $6 million reported, and maybe Matt could have argued with Gute to go to $8, but for some reason, Gute didn't want to go that high.

Jones played less than half a season last year and is about to be 30. He didn't have leverage. He should have taken the deal and hoped to play himself into a better one next year. His chances of having a good year would have been better with the Packers than they will be with the Vikings.

He should have taken the Packer's offer.

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honeybadger's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:44 am

Your missing the boat here. Jones did not want to take a pay cut. It's not a matter of could the Packers beat Minnesota's offer. He was going to be mad no matter what they offered. So they offered a deal he would certainly refuse and go elsewhere. Why keep an angry guy in the locker room. It was time. Let him go.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:03 pm

Vito taught me to only make offers they can’t refuse.

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rmg32010's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:44 am

One million dollar difference in the NFL world is nothing. More to this than we'll hear. We lost a great pass catching, blitz blocking, star back to what amounts to an NFL penny.

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Racingdad's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:48 am

Look we all loved 33 but he should have stayed with gb for whatever money as I believe when he was finally done he could have become the media face of the franchise and gotten paid from the team for it , etc. ( maybe ? ) kinda just stayed here like leap-36 Also now any chance at a Super Bowl for him is over with that dumpster fire franchise he’s with . As far as the money he missed a lot of games last year when we really needed him and was on a pitch count in other games P S I love the Josh Jacobs signing I believe he’s gonna be great for us

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Starrbrite's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:08 am

Cory, I agree with you, there has to be respect for the cap. However, I say it all the time —stop worrying about the cap. Teams work in and around it. Now if you’re completely stupid, like the Broncos, then yes, the cap is a problem.
As for Rosenhaus winning—I don’t agree. There is no way I believe Jones wants to be a Viking. His agent convinced him to do something he didn’t want to do.
Go Packers!!!

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Leatherhead's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:35 am

The Packers got younger, better, and cheaper at RB. And to some people, that’s a loss.

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Jimbo1's picture

March 16, 2024 at 11:50 am

Great point! And if Jones wanted to be a Packer he would be.

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PackerBackerAZ's picture

March 16, 2024 at 12:21 pm

Jones is at the age where the vast majority of running backs hit the injury/decline in performance wall. The chances of him playing more than half the schedule are statistically pretty slim. Saying Rosenhaus won and the Packers/Gutekunst lost is absurd to say the least. The Packers are known to cut a player one year too soon rather than take a chance on injury or inability to perform at their established level derailing the season. I hope Jones remains healthy and has a productive year, but I understand why the Packers didn't want to pay more than they offered.
Everyone seems to have forgotten that Emanuel Wilson is the Packers third back with no need to draft a running back in the first four rounds. The Packers/LaFleur might be thinking of rotating Jacobs and Dillon with Wilson being the change of pace back. That keeps all three relatively fresh and, hopefully, healthy in games throughout the season.

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GregC's picture

March 16, 2024 at 02:53 pm

My assumption all along was that Aaron Jones was worth more to the Packers than he was to any other team, because he is such a good fit for their offense. Looking back, this assumption was proven to be wrong. I think Gute wanted to pay Aaron Jones to be RB #2, albeit a really good one. Jones was never a full-time RB to begin with. He always needed to be paired with another RB who was rotated in quite heavily. They gave Jones more carries than usual at the end of last season, with great results, but it was not sustainable. I think Gute wanted to get a better RB to rotate with Jones, whether through free agency or the draft, with the new RB being the workhorse. Because of that, Gute judged Jones to be worth less than he was before.

The Vikings, on the other hand, had nothing at RB, so they were happy to pay Jones to be the #1. The loser is not Gutekunst, it is the fans. Aaron Jones' legacy is also a loser. Instead of pursuing a Super Bowl for a fanbase that adores him, he is a one-year placeholder on a team that will be starting over with a new QB, and they don't even know who that QB will be.

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JJB's picture

March 16, 2024 at 04:23 pm

So when Jones has a injury plagued season with the queens and he will when he's getting full box of defenders cuz no one will respect the queens qb then his career will be over. I would of took the 1 yr $6 mil and stayed in GB. Split time with Jacob's and get another yr contract

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NFLfan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 04:42 pm

I think Jones was hoping to be paid extra for the intangibles; being well-liked, good locker room presence, etc.

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Bret Iverson's picture

March 16, 2024 at 05:26 pm

Yes it would be nice to have Aaron Jones but he should have followed LeRoy Butler and taken less. Fans usually don't support Vikings in retirement. His agent did not care about future earnings like living in GB and making big bucks in retirement!!

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DragonSilk's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:06 pm

There's a good chance this will turn out to be a case of a year too early is better than a year too late. I loved Jones when he was on the field, but that was far too seldom. Even the year when McCarthy barely used him he still ended up on IR and he was young at that time. Jacobs has got tons of talent and is a stronger runner than Jones. I just hope he turns out to be more durable.

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Packerpasty's picture

March 16, 2024 at 06:51 pm

Sorry Jennerjohn , wrong again...and im pretty sure Jacobs will prove to be a very good player...now can this please be the last article about a guy who isn't on the Packers anymore?? Come on, we went through this crap last year...Try concentrating on the players who are actually on the team or move to Minnesota and be a Viking fan if your that butt hurt...

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NFLfan's picture

March 16, 2024 at 10:43 pm

I watched a documentary about Aaron Jones last night. He and his twin brother were stars.

"A Football Life Origins-Aaron Jones"
10/6/23 (created)

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HarryHodag's picture

March 17, 2024 at 09:26 am

Enough about Jones, please.

Jones won't survive the season without an injury is my prediction. He's an all-time Packers great, but the time to move on arrived. Jacobs is a more than capable(and younger) running back.

I think Jones will do well in Minnesota until the next injury arrives.

One other point: the idea that you can get around the salary cap usually means exactly what the Packers did in the Aaron Rodgers-David Bakhtiari financial fiasco. The Packers have almost $47 million in dead cap money for this year.

Again, sentimentality will get you beat.

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JJB's picture

March 17, 2024 at 11:38 am

Gute lost cuz he never signed any LBs to help the def. Now nothing is left and the draft is very weak at LB. Poor job by gute.

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