MLF has also decided to adopt McCarthy's complete inattention to all things Defense and STs.

MLF likes flashy plays, makes him look innovative, its amazing how two coaches in a row completely forget about the running game for whole quarters at a time...Jones may be in his last season with the Packers, he's been a great team player...hopefully they have a RB targeted in the draft...

Isn't Jones on a pitch count?

Maybe they are trying to prevent something, not aggravate his injury?
Just thinking out loud, but what do the Packers know.....right?
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After reading this article, i came out of it with......

Even with injuries, the Packers beat a 2-12 Panther team.

Two quick question....what day is the parade and what time does it start?

And they are saving him for.. ???
A playoff run? Not happening. Next year? He’s a likely cap casualty.

And I think even if he had Derrick Henry, MLF would do the exact same thing.. most of the issues from coaching, culture, player usage, and everything else that has plagued this team, would be gone if MLF was gone.

I agree with barutanseijin. Jones is prone to injury and battering him 30 times a game would likely lead to him being out several games. What good is that? You have a battering ram in A. J. Dillon. All defenses adjust and they would soon enough stop Jones.

It is likely Jones is gone next year and possibly Dillon. The Packers will need at least two backs in the draft.

Then, where is the other back capable of running wide zone? Let's give Gutey a call...

Also, he has been out and not practicing on an injured leg which means his stamina has decreased. Maybe MLF doesn't like him, or he likes to pass even though the running game is productive, or he wants to lose the game because he had a bet, or the Bears secret agent has inserted a chip in his brain. I know writers have to write about something, but the lack of common sense makes for hilarious reading.

When has MLF ever used #33 "as needed over the rest of the game?"

Green was 6' and 218 lbs. Jones is 5'-9" and 208 lbs. Hardly a "smallish" back. A shorter back is going to take less big hits than a taller one. Bad theory here.

Concerning barutanseijin's comment......

It's nice to see someone else in here who can speak with some voice of reason.

TVOR.

Nobody likes being conned. After 5 years, we all know we have been by LaFleur. He’s not a Head Coach. He’s all talk, no action and no learning, personally and collectively as a team. Some refuse to see the many signs, but that doesn’t change the fact that the league has and maybe the players are too.

Optimist,
A defense changing their strategy? Who does that, I haven't seen it?

I was thinking along the same lines.
MAYBE there’s been some runs to 33 that Love has checked out of? I don’t know, just asking. Has Love been granted MLF’s “blessing” to change calls at the line? I think to at least some extent he has. Did a lot of that vs KC as I recall.
So also, IF the D adjusts to take away Jones, doesn’t that mean they have to “give away” something else? If so, what? Then let’s do that!

I don’t know why this is downvoted, as of right now …we don’t have a durable back that can run against stacked boxes except Dillon, Which is crucial for play action. Dillion was limited with a thumb cast, Wilson is injured and i’m sorry but as good a Jones is…he is not a 3 down back capable of making it through a full season. That’s been going on the last couple of years which is why i’ve been screaming at the top of my lungs for another High OL pick and a High RB pick the last couple of yrs. But sometimes I get pissed at LaFluer because on a lot of these fake QB keepers…Love should actually keep it and run. I’ve seen him do it like 3 times this year and it’s been extremely successful…he’s young…why not let him do it more? Make the opposition play the whole field more. But in a year where there were a lot of good RBs on the market….they should have taken advantage of it. Jones is great, great person , great player etc…but you gotta show you can stay on the field for a full season and he has not been able to do that the last couple of yrs.

Spot On, Lombardi.
Time to clean house, but they can't let Murphy survive it either!
His "everyone reports to me" system is responsible for Ball throwing around big (and often foolish) money. Murphy sees it as an example of all the money he's made for the Packers' as their Real Estate Guru. His hesitancy and inability to rein in MLF is disgusting! Gutey and Ball are no better!
The Executive Committee needs to start at the top, and shit-can the entire mess!

Since,

I'm with ya on all that EXCEPT #9. How does he hurt this team exactly? His rookie contract is too expensive? If his roster spot is too valuable, put him on IR.

It's also premature to evaluate Ja as a flop. His shoulder prevents him from being able to tackle? Ok he shouldn't be on the field, or at least should be on a snap count. It will be interesting to see how they scheme for Justin Jefferson, he'll still be out, right?

First 3 yrs of Lafluer they were on the brink of a SB. The last 2( including this yr) Not so good. I don’t think he has a choice on who gets canned…Ithink that’s a contract thing that Mark and Gutey have control over. But make no mistake Barry is the problem, injuries are a problem and I’m willing to bet LaFluer has zero control over who gets fired.

CW,

I agree with your general assessment, but caution against PFF grades. Zach Tom did very well on many plays against a seriously dangerous opponent..

That there was only one sack wasn't just our O line, JL10 had a lot to do with that. Certainly the biggest failure of the season is on coaching, failure to forge a dominant O line out of the available talent. Yes that goes up to MLF, and also includes Butkus and Stenavitch. (Plus whoever else) Without blaming JB for any of that, he has plenty of foibles of his own.

"The OL, playing a not great DL, was, apart from Jenkins, flat out awful in PFF’s assessment. All the above were dire in the run game and not great in passing situations.

In a year when we knew we had to run, the OL is just as much of an area that LaFleur has simply allowed to bumble along at an unsatisfactory level all season without obvious efforts to address and certainly any success doing so."

And once again we have players saving MLF. Instead of a HOF QB and WR plus a top 10 OL we have a first year QB and raw WR saving MLF from his own failings. Imagine if Love wasn't putting up comparable numbers that our 2 previous HOF QBs did in their first year? Or Jayden Reed wouldn't be close to Packer rookie records for receptions, or Wicks wouldn't be a go-to guy in his rookie season? Maybe it's time for Murphy to recognize he hired a HC who can't elevate anyones play and needs other's to elevate his coaching.

I believe the person who selects and manages coaches is Gutey. And he forces the HCs to work with whomever he provides. Nothing has led me to think otherwise. I could be wrong. They were hampered by the cap, however you’re correct….in a year where you’re relying on a Run game and Good defense to help basically a Rookie QB….the first thing I would have done is draft a Top OL guard and Center…Jenkins already proved he could replace Baktiaris snaps last year and part of the year before, so could yosh nijman. But you can’t afford to screw the pooch on Center and Guard and they knew they would need a long term answer at RB. Dillon is short yardage and Jones is oft injured. There were too many needs this year, not enough money and not enough draft picks.Im pretty sure that this is Barry’s last Season in GB. But yes, this OL has been suspect all year and there could have been some things done schematically to compensate for it.

PFF has Derrick Brown with an 88 grade on the year and Tom looked good against him on some early running plays when the Panthers were in base. I think PFF is letting their passing bias show.

Walker on the other hand has had some truly bad run blocks. Can this staff fix it is a big question.

Hard to buy into PFF's offensive grades and assessment for the game when we ran the ball as effectively as we have all year and J Love through from clean pockets most of the game. The grades just don't add up to the results.

Speaking of Evero,
Is he ready to be a Head coach? We certainly need one!
He was red hot as a DC candidate, but not for LaFlake of course!

Trying to turn this rookie crew into an air raid offense is not a valid "adjustment." It's just one of the many forms of incompetence from MLF.

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Hats off to the Ravens. Never thought the 49ers could be out physicaled (is that a word?) like that.

Harbough is a fantastic coach. Shanahan is not really evolving, they just have a way better scouting department., you know what they’re gonna do, but can’t stop it.But Harbough was a QB, coached both college and pros and is capable of evolving with the game. He makes in game adjustments and has a creative game plan just about every game. But it was also my 2-3 look at Lamar Jackson…he can do it all and the majority of defenses don’t have an answer for him. Ravens have top to bottom talent too. I believe they will take the SB. They have absolutely destroyed Detroit and SF and I don’t think the Eagles will fair much better. But GB doesn’t have anywhere near the D coordinator talent nor the OL talent. It also seems the scouting department doesn’t even look at durability/talent…they just look at RAS and “ potential “ . Maybe Watson will prove me wrong and be durable in year 3…but I doubt it. Jury is still out on whether or not Reed will be more durable than Flowers.

The Kicker won the game and was 2/2 on the FGs. A missed extra point will have to be reviewed in the Film study.

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Carlson kicked a longer field goal didn’t he? The opponents kicker was worse in the night.

Carlson is 80% on the year. If he maintains that, he’s almost exactly at Crosby’s average percentage over the combined 21and 22 seasons. It took Crosby till his 5th year to break the 80% mark by the way.

I’m not anointing Carlson yet, but I’d have happily taken 80% as a rookie before the season. As to Douglas, it depends what we do with the pick to some extent, but to get home on a blitz, the DC has to call one. Maybe that’s a difference to ponder?

Again, the Rasul Douglas give away for no value at all, the worst part of that was Gutey telling Rasul that the offer was too good to pass up. Gutey was just desperate to make a trade, any trade.

Moving a fifth round pick up by about 40 spots into the late third round will not possibly result in as much contribution as Rasul Douglas would make. That roster mistake is FAR less than the negative impact on the locker room, telling them they're all worthless no matter how well they play.

Obviously Gutey is not a "people person." How does that impact GM duties?

He said that this is the run pass mix he anticipated going into the season. Seemed to say the pressure (rush) increase in the second half was a reason we didn’t run as much (counterintuitive). He was not really asked directly why Jones got so few snaps. He said the QB sneak was Love changing the call based on seeing the D.

It’s “whatever it takes to win” … but not on Barry’s D. They were out there too much …. He seemed to suggest that the players didn’t want to defer when they win the toss, and that this had been an issue once earlier in the year. Maybe more to that than I’d suspected before listening.

LP,
What does it matter, we'd have gotten some bullshit answer anyway!
"I'll take responsibility for that, we've got to be better, and it all starts with me, I'll look at the film and we'll correct it"
Yeah, right! I've heard that song more times than that old Mike McCarthy classic, 'Pad Level'!

Lamar looked like the MVP last night. The SB might be a repeat ...

NFLfan,
As a Packer fan in 9er territory I'm not sure I can agree.
Yes Shanahan runs a tight ship, and Yes, he has an ego, which I think is commonplace and a requirement in the business, but he's not the complete ego-maniac as was Jim Harbaugh.
He hires good assistants that do good jobs, they seldom seem to miss a beat despite losing coaches to promotions annually, and he's not afraid to replace them when they don't perform. I'd be damned happy to have the Head coach and GM team that the 9ers have.
As for his ability to work with QBs, he's done quite well with Mr. Irrelevant, and I'd have a hard time believing that Brady didn't have a huge ego similar to one Aaron Rodgers. They both earned it.
I'm not, and never have been a 9er fan, but I gotta give credit where credit is due. Just sayin'.

Indeed. That's why the O line is priority #1. Whether GB runs just enough to keep opponents honest or half the plays are runs, O line is the biggest need. And teaching, evaluation, and player selection are all more important than the draft at this point.

I'd still like to see the top 3 picks spent on interior linemen.

Love, Doubs, Heath, Kraft, Watson, Reed, Musgrave, Wicks…..we’re set up to be a passing team.

Love - check
Doubs - check
Heath - blocker=run
Kraft - blocks and catches and runs, better than Musgrave - as I thought
Watson, Reed, Musgrave, Wicks - all were hurt for the Panthers game. These names do not mean a gol-darned thing in discussing MLF's play calling for the recently completed Panther game, which by the way is what is being discussed here.

We scored a Dillon rushing touch down in Q1 and a Love sneak in the second. The only first half passing TD was the one at the end of the half to Wicks. Not sure I’m seeing your point other than the fact of where the quarter ended in terms of possessions at that point.

So your argument is that the genius of LaFleur was planning on Love and a bunch of rookies thinned by injury to carry the team? For that game, that makes little sense to me, far less so for the season when Love was unproven (something exacerbated by the refusal to start him towards the end of last year) and only Doubs was on the roster of the non rb skill players out there yesterday (Melton on the PS/futures) when they planned this offense in the off season.