Cory's Corner: Do You Believe?

The Packers newest QB1 didn't show any signs of timidness. 

The storyline is obvious. The Packers whitewashed the Bears 38-20 at Soldier Field to kickstart the season. 

But in what was known as the Unproven Bowl between both Jordan Love and Justin Fields, it was Love that passed the test. 

“There’s a big-time belief in that locker room for Jordan Love,” said Packers coach Matt LaFleur.

Love was 15 of 27 for 245 yards, three touchdowns and a 123.2 passer rating. His only blemish was taking a sack for an eight yard loss right before halftime. 

Coming into this season, there were a lot of question marks about whether Love could play or not. I think we can put those questions to rest. I’m not saying that Love is instantly a franchise quarterback, but the Packers have to start thinking about extending him.

The Packers weren’t sure in the offseason either, which is why they only invested in a one-year deal. But if he has another outing like this, Love needs to be locked up before Halloween. 

Love didn’t look like a timid quarterback taking over for a future Hall of Famer. He looked like a guy that patiently waited his turn and was confident in himself, in the scheme and the guys around him. 

What was the main thing we heard all offseason? It was how anyone that wears green and gold absolutely loves Love. They believe in him as a leader and they believe in him as a quarterback. They know that he can win games in this league and he proved it by winning a road game against a division rival right out of the gate. 

Just remember, the Packers don’t need Love to be a hero. He looked really impressive, but all he needs to do is not turn it over. He understands how important maintaining possessions are and he understands how important it is to trust what’s working. 

While everyone was impressed with the array of arm slots and his back shoulder fade accuracy, what impressed me was that Love was 7-for-9 on third down. That’s pretty awesome. It shows that the moment isn’t too big for him and he’s going to continue to grind and get the job done. 

On the other sideline, the Bears are trying to figure out what they have with Fields. He can run, but his 78.2 passer rating that included an interception was something to be desired. That destruction of the Bears may have been the first paragraph of Fields’ final chapter in Chicago. 

So where do we go from here? First of all, don’t get carried away. The NFL is a week-to-week league and things can change quickly. However, the reason I think Love is the real deal is because he’s so consistent. 

“Just look when he got in the games last year,” said Packers running back Aaron Jones, who ran for 41 yards and a touchdown and caught two passes for 86 yards and another touchdown. “He didn’t miss a beat. If anything, he picked it up against Philadelphia — and that was a Super Bowl team.”

So we’re one game in and I’m going to steal a line from Deion Sanders. Do you believe? 

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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greengold's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:20 am

Yes, I believe in Jordan Love as being a pretty solid QB1 for the Packers, and I’ve believed he could be that for this team since we selected him in 2020.

“First of all, don’t get carried away.”

Probably the most important line in your piece, Cory. Elephant in the room, yes, I also believe we are only getting an R2 and much needed cap relief courtesy of the Jets for Aaron Rodgers.

Last night was the Jets nightmare, and it was both sad and abrupt. Their OL couldn’t protect their major franchise saving acquisition for 4 plays! It was a freak injury, and not how Rodgers wanted his season to end. Despite that, yes, I can believe it happened, and though I’m glad he’s a Jet, I still wish him a complete recovery.

Trenches is a plural thing in football. Can’t achieve success without quality players at both OL & DL. That won the day for the Packers in their victory over the Bears. It wasn’t perfect, but enough to get the job done. We do need improvements by both MLF and his staff, and the players.

I’m looking at you, Myers! RUN BLOCK! Don’t just get to the 2nd level and stand there. Zero in on your target while you’re moving. HAVE A TARGET! Sheesh! Complete the assignment.

JL was steady and efficient in his first start as QB1. Time to build on that success. It was one game. The job at hand is ATL. Time to change focus on winning that challenge.

This young team has to play better v. ATL. Both OL & DL especially. This will prove a more difficult test, and while the CHI win was encouraging, there’s much more work to address.

Our Packers learned how to win a game. Now, hopefully the many young players on this team learn how to play to another level and start stacking wins.

Onto ATL. LFG GPG

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:22 am

Myers is becoming the new Newman. Newman's best season was his rookie year. He's been a liability since, arrow pointing straight down. Still on the roster...was even active over Rhyan on Sunday.

Myers best season was probably his 5 game 2021 rookie season where he showed some promise. But since then his arrow is down. Last year he was a clear liability in the run game. He is again. Still starting.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:48 am

This is exactly why I've been saying Zach Tom should have been worked in at C. If Nijman isn't as good at RT and is better specializing on one side, use Walker at RT. It's about run blocking and specifically for #28 straight up the middle. If he gets that MLF can call plays to run anywhere, and that would help the whole run game no matter who's carrying the ball.

I'd rather have coaches that understand this better than I do, and implement improvements like this before I can even notice it might be a good idea.

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Guam's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:24 am

Wasn't a big fan of Rodgers during the closing years of his career in Green Bay, but I sure hated to see his season and potentially his career end like it did last night. He deserves better than that.

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Johnblood27's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:13 am

Rodgers deserves exactly what Favre and other warriors of the gridiron deserve.

To go out on their own terms.

Favre laying on a frozen U of Minn field after a serious concussion when his head whipped into the frozen turf. Favre was a serious warrior battling injury and opponents in his play week after week and year after year. He would NEVER quit. To have to be 'carried' off the field in his final appearance was classic drama and fitting for an old war horse.

Fast forward to AR. His departure to the NY football JETS was so Favre-like it was surreal. All the off-season talk, the sacrificing for his team and teammates, which sure didn't happen his last few years in GB, led to the start of the season and all the hopes and dreams of the NY fans and media... and then... 4th play, 1st game, done like dinner. If you were watching, you saw AR's last play in the NFL. He will not come back from an Achilles tear at age 40. period. End of the road.

Loved watching them both play for the past 30 years.

Very grateful for all they gave for my favorite football team, hell, my favorite sports team.

But...

Father time is undefeated and in the end each of us must succumb. It is inevitable.

Adios heroes of the gridiron, your sacrifices and talents were much appreciated.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:22 am

At least he was well paid for those last 4 plays, if they are his last.

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coolhand's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:38 am

I don't know if you heard his pre game interview, saying how happy he was to be in the big city and not be a "big fish in a goldfish bowl" anymore. He really showed contempt for "small town" Green Bay and could care less about the team's history and traditions. I was hoping he would be running for his life last night and sacked a few times but didn't want to see him injured. It is sounding like he is done for the year which is too bad.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:47 am

Feel bad for Rodgers. Especially since he is not injury prone at all. Really a cruel fate for him. After the SB, this was probably what he viewed as the brightest limelight appearance of his career.

What I do not feel bad about is the Jets will now be off most Packer sites.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:37 pm

This the type of injury that can occur to anyone, but to which older players are more susceptible. Looking at the film, it seemed pretty innocuous. It apparently wasn’t. Father Time has a habit of catching up and so many ways to do it. Not all are just through decline. It’s a big risk factor with older athletes. Bad luck, but perhaps not unpredictably so, except for how early on it occurred.

This was a concern when we signed such a large and long term extension. In retrospect, the escape from under that and the 100 million of guarantees that would now exist had we not traded him is something that we should be even more thankful for.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:04 pm

Our better pass protection and real grass might have helped their (Rodgers and Favre) longevity. Both were injured with poor protection and fake grass.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 05:24 pm

I looked at the film. I did not look like that the turf (new design, but still artificial) had any bearing on this occasion. As to the OL. It may have taken 40 snaps not 4, but no OL is perfect. He was sacked 32 times last year, for example, so approximately twice a game.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:02 pm

Confirmed by MRI, came in roughly 10:30, torn achilles. I expect that's a very painful injury, which means he's tougher than I gave him credit for because he didn't show signs of anything all that bad.

Sucks for everybody.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:51 am

Has news come out that this is known to be an achilles injury?

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:10 am

An Achilles rupture is usually pretty obvious to medics (and player) from the physical signs. The scan is usually formal confirmation. I think that’s why it’s being treated as if confirmed.

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croatpackfan's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:29 pm

It is confirmed!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:03 pm

Yes. I have no idea if there's any difference between a rupture and a tear; this is being called a tear, with no possibility of return this season.

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croatpackfan's picture

September 12, 2023 at 02:08 pm

Rupture is partial tear of and tear is complete tear...

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 05:39 pm

I think you may have that backwards Croat. Rupture refers to a total separation (or functionally so), whereas “tear” is descriptive of any scale of tear, from minor to total.

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HawkPacker's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:24 am

When I first saw Rodgers go down I said 'get up you big baby' as it did not look serious to me at all. The more I read, heard and thought about it, I feel terrible for him. It sounds, at this point any way, that he may be done for the season which is too bad for him.

Also, it means a 2nd round pick for us and just think he could have still been playing for us when it happened. Actually, it can happen to any player, old or young.

RE: Myers, as much as I do appreciate Gute and what he has done for the organization, especially the last two drafts, I do remember when he drafted Myers ahead of Creed Humphries. My thought at the time was that Gute knows more than we do and he must have made the correct decision. Well, I guess not, at least that one draft. It really only means that none of us know everything about drafting and it is an educated crap shoot.

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 12, 2023 at 02:31 pm

“Educated crap shoot” is EXACTLY what it is!!

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Packers0808's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:13 am

I watched the whole game last night and it almost seems that it was a blessing of sorts Rodgers wasn't in the whole game. Zach Wilson ran for his life and was pummeled around like a rag doll. I doubt that Rodgers would have lasted that beating at his age. They would have taken Rodgers out on a stretcher in a bath tub full of ice! Wilson survived due to his scrambling and more importantly I believe because of his youth!

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murf7777's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:34 am

Good write up GG….as you might know, I’ve been a suppporter of the Love draft pick from day 1. That said, not sure why Cory thinks we have to hurry up and sign him to a new contract. Cory, what’s the hurry? Get as much info as needed before plowing 100 million+ into the cap.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:22 pm

I think he's thinking it will be cheaper now than after we clinch the division and win some playoff games.

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NickPerry's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:21 am

It's week one and it was against the Bears, but I have to say, I was very, VERY impressed with Jordon Love on Sunday. 7 of 9 on 3rd down plus a TD pass on 4th down showed me something. I mean common JL haters, he was AWESOME when it mattered the most!

But still, I do understand the haters hesitation. For some, no matter what Love does on the field, those haters are going to continue to be hyper-critical no matter what. But lets see what he does the next few weeks. The Saints are a very good defensive team. IMO Love is going to continue to win the doubters over.

Lets get Watson back, Jones healthy, and go smoke those Saints!

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:59 am

"Lets get Watson back, Jones healthy, and go smoke those Saints!"

Let's not forget about the game against the Falcons before they play the Saints.

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NickPerry's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:36 pm

Oh crap... LOL!!! Man, I AM getting old. I forgot a whole week!

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Untylu1968's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:04 am

I would have to bet that many of the JL haters were also AR haters when he took the reigns from Farve. Time and JL being good will bring them around.

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HawkPacker's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:27 am

You don't hear much from the haters now after the Bares game about JL.

I liked the pick from the start. I think it did a couple of things for us: It got us the next starting QB even though I did not know how good he could be (I really still don't), but the FO was convinced based on trading up and selecting him in the first round.

Also, I think his being selected is a big reason why Rodgers played so well the following two years! He has that chip on his shoulder and was/is very competitive.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:36 am

I was bullish on the Rodgers pick. I was bullish on the Love pick.

After he was drafted I researched Jordan and was impressed. His college career...his development. His trials in character development losing his mentor/coach Dad at age 13 to losing all his coaches, WRs, OL before his last season at Utah State.

It was time to move on from Favre. It was time to move on from Rodgers. I was on board both times.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:03 pm

If you don’t pick very early, then the chance to pick up a premium talent at QB is a rare one. I didn’t see the Love pick coming. I initially hated it, but pretty soon realized that the Lambeau leadership all saw Love as a guy not ready to start but potentially a star down the road. It was the same with Rodgers.

At some point a passing of the batting was coming. What happened last night could just as easily have happened in any other game. Acquiring a Love project always made sense if he really had the potential to be truly good. That was the rider none of us knew the truth of.

So far, it has not been proved wrong. The longer that continues the closer we are to waking up and realizing that he was too good to pass up and they were right. All I can say at this point is I feel better about his chances than a number of much higher picks and than I did going into this summer. As others have said, his floor appears to have risen steadily.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:12 pm

I remember last year everybody was saying Love is terrible. I never got on that train and I'm not jumping now either, but he sure looks good in several very important ways ...

I want to see him learn to throw the ball away when that's his best option. I want to see him learn to take the sack when that's his best option. And I want to see him not try to thread needles especially on long throws; wait for the target to be truly open. AR12 made that look so easy for so long! Maybe he'll get there but there's no need to force it.

These are really my only critiques of him so far. And this is stuff you can probably only learn by playing regular season games.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:54 am

Cory you need get your head out of the clouds.
First- don't get carried away?
Yet -if he has another outing like this,
Love needs to be locked up before Halloween.

Why ask people if they believe if you already do.
He will make what the avg. is ( per QBs in the NFL).
And I will tell you right out. He's No NFL MVP.
But lets put his price tag on this-
1.. Accuracy. He isn't yet.
2. ,Vision. -Time with smarts here.,
3. arm strength- Good - pay him $$$
4. pocket awareness - The Lions are the test ,
5. intelligence, - Reservations - (Protecting the ball)
6. leadership,- Good so far. - Pay him $$$
So based on the 2 of 6. You can't lock him up.
We've had less at QB. Flynn ,etc.
So I can understand the skies the limit.
But POTENTIAL isn't going to win a super-bowl.
And as you've seen last night.- Injuries
change how you must Play the game.
The real Deal is winning.

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Matt's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:16 am

"But POTENTIAL isn't going to win a super-bowl [...] The real Deal is winning."

That kinda sums up last years of Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. He had got all the potential in the world, but it was winning in crucial time what matters. QB doesn't have to go through your whole checklist, he must have good skills and fit the scheme. You can relentlessly look for another Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes or take a good one and build around him.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:17 am

He must have good skills and fit the scheme.
Terrific Point- Dead nuts-
But the Checklist was posted for PAY SCALE!
Because your/those Qbs fit Avg pay!
The problem is trying to compare him to
a great, when he hasn't earned it yet.
You should have mentioned Brady.
A guy that wasn't a #1 pick.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:18 pm

Potential expires eventually. Rodgers wasn’t getting better. In fact he had visibly declined from his peak athletically. The question with Rodgers had for a while how long could his experience and mind keep him ahead of aging and his body hold out enough. It was the same with Favre, who tore his throwing arm tendon while lighting it up with the Jets. Then a more general decline set in with the Vikings in year 2. They are humans, not eternal constants.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 04:36 pm

Who brought Rodger's and Favre's evaluation
into this?
You don't want second opinions.
You think everything against #4 and #12 is gospel .
There is a lot we don't know about these two.
And what really goes on behind closed doors.
Information about TT was a perfect example.
Why Force someone to accept what they're told.
You might make a better Gm than Gute.
Out with the old and in with the new.
Until it digs your own grave.

*Kids deserve their heroes*

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 05:29 pm

You: “POTENTIAL isn't going to win a super-bowl.”

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packer132's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:55 am

Are you for real? Check yourself SH, as you have a problem. Packers had one of the best season openers in many years and you complain that Love is not a hall of famer? He is the only QB to throw for 3 TD's and 0 INT's in the first week. He is basically a rookie, having sat for 3 years. He had an impressive game and made good decisions and didn't turn the ball over. No credit to Gute for drafting these good players and putting together a solid team that will get better with experience? I am done reading your senseless posts. I am a Packers fan and enjoyed the win over the Bears immensely. I can't wait to see how they play against Atlanta and every game after.

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Packers0808's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:09 am

Stockholder is an embarrassment to himself, the Packers and especially all Packer fans! Quit reading his garbage a while ago now!

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:45 am

I stuck to the Article. You guys Can't!
Read It; not what you want to read into it// Jordan Love.
I said nothing about the game. The HOF issue is "pay scale"!
Cory wanted to lock him up, yet show No pedal to the medal.
That doesn't call for throwing big $$$$ at a gamble.
I say you guys that leave negative feedback
Can't stick to what the Article says.
Against a opponent that everyone insists still sucks?

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Packerpasty's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:50 am

if people like SH cant post their own opinions without being trashed then this site has become a cult..I hope it goes down the drain if it is...you people are very intolerant of posters like SH and a few others...FU all...

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:33 am

Nobody's censoring him or calling for him to be censored. The beautiful thing about free speech is it guarantees people have the right to say stupid things but it also guarantees others the right to scrutinize and criticize people when they say stupid things. If you cant handle that then maybe try being less stupid.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:57 am

I'm sure he knows the difference between
Free Speech and Cyberbullying.
It's why you stick to the Article.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:02 pm

Cyberbullying? You're such a victim. Poor you.

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 03:58 pm

Wrong again. Demonization.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:52 pm

The thing about truly free speech is that it isn’t merely inclusive of a right to say anything but also of an inherent right to respond. If one puts something out there, know that others have the right to disagree or challenge its merits. It’s the right to express an opinion not the right for that to be accepted. The vilification of those who disagree and express that is as great a dampener of free speech as the suppression of the right to speak at all.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:21 pm

CW, hear hear!

At issue is blind homerism vs reasonable skepticism. The fact is, 17 games get played for a reason; none of us really know the outcome. Whatever anybody wants to call it or not call it, the many changes headed into this season have been anxiety laden. It's easy to get carried away on an emotional rollercoaster; seeing what's really going on is usually not so easy.

We're 1-0, after a preseason that could arguably be considered 3-0 instead of 2-1, which is entirely irrelevant now.

Falcons next! Lots of very useful film to study, some injuries to heal, and hopefully new plays to add ...

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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 04:06 pm

Why use stupid?
Thats not making a point /counter point.
It's off topic.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:07 pm

So the way to try to make a point is to make false accusations, call folks who disagree with narratives "intolerant", then use profanity and curse those you are trying to influence?

Ok, then.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:14 pm

Are y'all with the cult?

I'll tell you whhat

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:06 am

SH,

I agree with you in that I don't understand any need or reason to adjust JL10's contract by the trade deadline..

There's a lot of football to go. Even though Josh Allen lost last night he did two things Love has not yet learned: he threw the ball away to avoid a loss of yardage, and he took the sack when that was the best option. The one sack on Love could have been avoided by throwing it away. Fortunately our O line protected him very well almost all the time and obviously we all hope that continues, but JL has not "arrived," if that's what you mean by not being an NFL MVP. As a rookie I don't think he'd be in that conversation so I'm puzzled why you brought that up.

Love can be exactly what this team needs without needing to be a hero, MVP, or hall of famer. He needs to run the offense, go for the high percentage plays, and use the deep ball sparingly when we have somebody who's actually open. #9 is most likely to be that person but he's already willing to look at all his targets so that's an immediate improvement. He's shown good mobility so that's an improvement over AR at least last year.

Hoisting a Lombardi really isn't reasonable to discuss any more than MVP is at this point. And yet Love can be more than just a "game manager," but he should continue filling those shoes first. IMHO.

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murf7777's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:44 am

May not agree with all your opinions on Love, but your point is correct, no need to rush and lock up 100+ million in cap. Love has a lot of potential, but I don’t think the Packers know for sure right now so give it time.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:57 am

"Just remember, the Packers don’t need Love to be a hero. He looked really impressive, but all he needs to do is not turn it over."

Just take what the defense gives you and don't try sticking it into tight windows. Throw it away, punt it, let your defense get the ball back. Just like against the Bears in the first half. If it's not there, pin them back and make them have to force it. Trust the D. It's nice to get a 1st down or two so the D isn't over extended, but the proved very resilient with their deep rotations.

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coolhand's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:46 am

"Just remember, the Packers don’t need Love to be a hero. He looked really impressive, but all he needs to do is not turn it over."

Last night's game proved this point about turnovers. Allen had 4, Wilson had none, case closed.

With no Rodgers, I guess Allen decided someone HAD to play hero ball and heave it downfield into double coverage.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:55 am

Wilson was pedestrian but no turnovers which is the great equalizer.

However the "case closed" when the zebras again decided a game while deciding to let an illegal leg whip win the game for the Jets.

No way the PR scores in OT. It was not only a glaring, easy to call penalty...but the leg whip took out the Bills player who was clearly going to make the tackle at the sideline.

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coolhand's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:06 am

Yea, I agree. I saw that as well as well other calls that could have been made against the Jets. Home cookin' I guess.

The hero ball from Allen was confusing, and especially his fumble late which led to the go ahead score made the difference.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:15 am

I wasn't confused by Josh Allen's play last night. It's perfectly consistent with what I've seen him do before. He's great at some things, but very much less than great in a smattering of situations, usually when it matters most. I don't know him as a QB nearly well enough to be able to pinpoint what the problem is, but it would be very frustrating to be a Bills fan. Of course we've had that for 12 years too, but for different reasons.

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:28 am

I believe......that Jordan Love will be a better than average NFL quarterback. He has a chance to be elite, but it will take awhile to figure that out. The accuracy issue, mostly on deep balls, is real, but it's not that bad. A sneaky talent he has is his ability to throw almost sidearm at times, with good accuracy. He does it so smoothly that it goes unnoticed, but I saw at least a couple of those on Sunday. Love seems so calm and methodical that I expect him to hold up reasonably well when under pressure, which is something that will happen against better teams.

The announcers seemed to think that the overthrown deep ball to Luke Musgrave (the one that was incomplete) was Musgrave's fault. I'd like to see a breakdown of that play to try and figure out if that's true. The long one that was completed to Musgrave was fine. Love just had to heave it up there because he couldn't get in proper throwing position. It was a classic schoolyard play. It was good to see that he can improvise when a play goes off-script.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:45 am

Actually Greg...MLF said that long cast to Musky was not improvised. It was called. It was obviously not clean execution with the fumble but that's were the ball was supposed to go. It worked. Musgrave was wide open for a long time.

In fact, MLF gave credit for that play call, a "drift", to RB coach Ben Sirmans who went to MLF after the previous play and said "how about a TE drift call here?" Matt told him that was a great idea. I really liked Matt calling out Sirmans and giving him credit there.

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:25 am

That's good to know, thanks. So I guess Love gets credit for sticking with the play instead of improvising. The important thing is that he did not panic.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:42 am

It's also important that that pass had near 0 chance of being intercepted. He's done a lot of those, pretty much all over the field.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:40 am

LP,

thank you for this detail! I thought I watched MLF's whole presser but I missed this. I consider MLF's style to have as a strength the ability to collaborate, and this is an example of that. #88 is often not quite in sync with JL so that wasn't a big surprise, but it was a safe throw with very little chance of being intercepted. Musgrave can improve his connection to Love a great deal this season and still have room to keep improving over the next seasons to develop that ESP-like thing where he bails out his QB from getting sacked as well as making plays. Even at the current state of things he can make a lot of key plays this season! He was right in keeping with that Sunday :)

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:46 am

I heard him say this to Rock during his usual post game locker room interviews. Rock was giving him some kudos for having a great game plan, especially on the pass to Musgrave. It was classy when Matt credited Ben Sirmans for giving him him that call.

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:40 am

Yes SST, the potential of the Love/Musgrave connection is really exciting. If these guys can put it all together they will be a real force in this league. And Love has other weapons too!

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greengold's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:12 am

Greg, this is so well stated. Kudos to you. I couldn’t have put it any better myself, and I share your sentiments here entirely.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:22 am

Greg, I'll agree with you that these missed deep passes are impossible for us to know if it's due to inacurrate throws, routes not being run, defense slowing down our target, or exactly what. Long passes are the exact opposite of a high probability play, there's so much that can go wrong. AR12 spoiled us, making it look nearly automatic. #4 was such a gunslinger that the entire organization tried to rein him in to limit interceptions.

Certainly it will take time to see what JL really can do. I'd like MLF to kinda keep him under wraps, as well as much of the offense; only putting on film as much as he has to to win. Some surprises in late season would help!

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:38 am

Bart Starr was a cool, calm leader on the field. He played complimentary football, content to let his teammates make plays. He relied on them, they relied on him. He followed the game plan. And while Bart called the plays...he did so following his coaches' plan of attack, rarely going off the game script. Above all, he was humble, always sharing credit. His teammates had his back.

I am not making Jordan Love Bart Starr. Only one Bart. Nonetheless I see similarities between the two as he launches his career as the next Packers QB.

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Packers0808's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:58 am

Definitely at least to Love at this point! Love in a sense seems to be a throwback to those Packer days!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:52 am

Lots of good things can come from traits like that! I'll agree that this is one of the major things about Sunday's win. While I saw this from him at practice, of course it's important to see that continue in a regular season game. There's probably some truth that the level of competition and adversity increased from preseason to Chicago, and will continue to increase at Atlanta and further yet against the Saints. Certainly I'll have an eye on consistency from JL on these intangibles, while expecting him to ace at least this part.

O line holding up under pressure is another key area. If they ever get run blocking improved I'm less optimistic about, you can't really do that very effectively when you're limited to either end or behind LG & LT.

D and especially pass rush is another case of incremental challenges. I'm not sure which teams on the schedule have the best O line but I expect Chicago ain't it. Our own safeties will get tested sometime, I'm not especially looking forward to that ...

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WD's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:50 am

Yes, a great game for the Packers. The only question is; are we that good? Or are the Bears that bad?

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:12 am

Doesn't have to be either / or. It could be both. Play the team you have on the schedule and overlook no one. Get better every game.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:31 am

So true. "Any given Sunday" happens every Sunday. Ask the Bengals.

So much parity in the NFL with player acquisition and schedule. Where the parity does not extend is to coaching and team management.

The wild card for the Packers season will be coaching...especially for a young team with so much talent and upside.

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Packers0808's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:00 am

But being that young team is probably what is needed, very coachable and not hopefully lot of bad habits to try and change drastically!

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greengold's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:17 am

This is so true, LP. Every time I think of “any given Sunday,” I’m immediately transported back to 1996 (?), when our dominant Packers lost to the lowly Colts. I think it was ‘96….

Games aren’t won on paper. Gotta play all of them, all out!

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:58 am

1997...remember that game as the Colts were winless 0-10 at the time. The defense was completely, uncharacteristically clueless during that sandlot shootout.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:58 am

GG, I lived in Indy at that time. I was there when the Colts came to town. I'll tell you that the "fan base" is so awful it's embarrassing. They don't know how to support anybody, fair weather friends. I won't opine about how much of a factor that might be in their current distress, but they've been lowly when it wasn't needed, and pulled out some surprising wins including that one; I don't remember exactly which year it was either. Life is SO much better in WI!

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:32 am

Adding insult to injury: Tony Mandarich was playing for the Colts at the time, and as I recall, he had a pretty good game against Reggie White and that great Packers D-line. Ugh.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:53 am

Yes.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:53 am

I like what I see in terms of Love’s temperament and ability to read the field and go through progressions. However, despite the victory, it’s also clear that he and his skill players have a great many rough edges that need to be smoothed through experience. There will be struggles, but this team will get better as it gets games under its belt, but it likely won’t be smooth.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:14 am

Do you know how many drops there were? I remember at least three blatant ones. Wonder what Love's QBR would have been minus those?

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greengold's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:19 am

There were ZERO drops from the stats I saw immediately following the game, Steve. Wow!

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:50 am

Reed is generally acknowledged had 2 probably 3 on 5 targets alone. I wouldn’t put any faith in whatever stats you saw.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:08 am

Dillan had one too.

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marpag1's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:33 am

I agree CW, yet in a backwards sort of way that's actually encouraging. If Love did as well as he did despite the rough edges, what happens when those are smoothed out?

In the Bears game, if just Musgrave and Love would have been a tick more in sync than they were, Love would probably have had an additional 50 yards or so and 2 more TDs.

But I do also agree with others who remind us that this was the Bears, and the Bears truly are bad....

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:01 am

CW, much agreed. That was anything but a flawless victory. This is the time for killer instinct to take over; learn from every mistake and refuse to repeat it, while enjoying not only the win but the ability to make some plays. Some went smoothly, some were barely executed, some were off schedule, and some flat out failed.

Plenty of teaching tape to work with!

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:09 am

Yes, it's lot's more fun to learn from your mistakes while winning the game.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:03 am

"...ability to read the field and go through progressions."

This has impressed me so far with Love. And the straw that stirs the drink is the OL pass pro. Fortunately Myers is solid at this part of his game.

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croatpackfan's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:09 pm

And to pass with anticipation! One of the hardest trait for QB!

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:40 pm

Isn't that amazing how they can do that? Good QBs can throw a ball in a garbage can from 40-50 yards. NFL QBs can throw it into one that's moving at 20 miles an hour across or down the field.

Why they get the big bucks.

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GP1's picture

September 13, 2023 at 02:22 am

Never is. Wasn't smooth with Rogers initially. Only time will tell.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 07:58 am

I am pretty sure that it was Musgrave at fault in that long ball, just from the way he approached the tracking. The long throw to Toure was definitely Love overthrowing. However, let’s remember, the average completion percentage for such plays is around 50 percent league wide. Rodgers struggles hitting MVS and then Watson last year are another reminder that these types of plays aren’t easy to pull off consistently.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:05 am

I didn't like listening to analyst Greg Olsen...such an obvious Bear homer.

He did make the observation on that Musgrave overthrow I agreed with...that he flattened his route toward the post vs the sideline where the ball would have been on him.

Teachable moment for Musky who I think is going to be a good one.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:05 am

I've never liked Olsen as an announcer, and not just because he shills for da Bares. There was some exceptional stupidity coming out of the booth in that game. I usually don't like Aikman either, but last night he schooled me on some history about Jets QBs going out for the season early ...

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fireball's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:03 am

Naw, not really a believer yet in Jordan Love. Not yet. But he was good, first game out as the starter. The whole team was pretty good. But then, like some other comment made on this site, the Packers were playing the " stinky Bears. "

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:07 am

I believe Jordan Love helped win the game Sunday. I also believe Jordan can help win the next game.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 05:52 pm

Love certainly did help win the game last week. He threw no interceptions and had a rating higher than any other QB that week. No doubt about it, he helped us win that game,

The more meaningful questions are surely 1) how often will he perform that well or better? And, 2) how many other opponents would that same level of performance enable us to overcome?

We don’t know the answer to either. We know the Bears were risibly bad in all phases, but how much of that was us being good? Can other teams knock Love off his rhythm more effectively (I have to think some can)?

We will find out, but we do know that he was genuinely good in game 1, if not spectacular. However, conflating the two of those is based upon both a flawed understanding of what constitutes good and if the realistic timescale of ascent of even past Hall of Famers.

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T7Steve's picture

September 13, 2023 at 06:42 am

Must have been a Bears fan that thumbed you.

"not spectacular" and healthy is all he needs to be till this team evolves as a unit.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:10 am

This is a fair assessment. It's still too early to tell. These are still first impressions, not that much different from preseason. I'm glad the schedule ramps up gradually, it's custom made for what this team needs to gel :)

I have no problem rooting for JL10, and I think he has a "high ceiling;" I'm not making predictions though. Processing ability and arm strength are there. Mobility, too. Those are some important ingredients ...

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CoachJV's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:05 am

I've had the pleasure of, what is now 4 good QB's with the Packers (Majikman being the first)... and I've seen them all come along (God am I really that old?). I think Love is going to be here for a long time barring injury. Of all the QB's to start for us since 1987, Love's demeanor reminds me most of Favre in the aspect that he's relaxed and just wants to play ball. ARod had a chip on his shoulder and something to prove. He let that fuel his fire... and it worked for a long time. But Love just wants to play, much like Brett. I think we'll be fine with Jordan at the helm.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:18 am

You evidently don't know what "old" is. I'm still a youngster and rooted for Bart.

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coolhand's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:53 am

Coach, I'm with you here, remember back to Starr. But, I also remember when Rodgers was drafted, and first played in the preseason games, he showed a very strong arm but was not so accurate. That took time, and I believe it will with Love as well. He has the physical tools and the right mentality for the position. Give him time to play with the receivers where they can read each other's minds and see where it takes us.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:17 am

I have had the pleasures from Starr, through the great QB void, some sunlight with Lynn Dickey clouded by awful defense, hope with Majik, then the new Golden Years of Favre's pure toughness with a cannon arm, Rodgers with sublime arm talent on every pass, to Love.

Compared to me, you aren't old. ;-))

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Leatherhead's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:54 am

Yeah, I'm going to disagree....Favre was reckless, and I don't get that sense from Love. He's poised, much more like Starr, and calculating, like Rodgers. But he's not going to hurt the team with reckless behavior.

Playing on the playground is fun, but at this level, you're paid to win. Throwing away game after game isn't fun for your teammates or your fans.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:20 am

Agree...Favre has the INT record along with all those TDs for a reason. He was the pure gunslinger and at times very reckless. Many multiple 3 and 4 game INTs.

What impressed me most with Brett was his Iron Man toughness.

And Favre also had the luxury of some rather good defenses bailing him out.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:36 am

He was amazingly durable. He had good offensive players around him. When he didn't, you had 2005 He was outstanding during his MVP years, and then was basically a mediocre, turnover prone guy for a decade.

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marpag1's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:26 am

"Just remember, the Packers don’t need Love to be a hero. He looked really impressive, but all he needs to do is not turn it over."

This is one of those weird cliches that doesn't make a bit of sense. If the statement were true, then Love could receive the snap and take a knee every play... because hey, "all he needs to do is not turn it over," right? Stop running away from the obvious reality. We need Love to be a excellent quarterback, and that means reading defenses, throwing the ball with accuracy into tight windows etc. etc. etc. Avoiding turnovers is not nearly enough, or even close to it.

It's kind of like when people say, "We don't need Jordan Love to be ARod, we just need him to be the best version of Jordan Love that he can be." Uh, no... we need him to be an excellent QB. If the "best version of Jordan Love" can't throw a 15 yard out route without getting picked off, then we obviously need more.

"While everyone was impressed with the array of arm slots and his back shoulder fade accuracy, what impressed me was that Love was 7-for-9 on third down."

I didn't hear a single person talking about arm slots. Every commentator I heard DID talk about the back shoulder or the efficiency on third down.

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GregC's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:55 am

What is an "arm slot"? I've never heard that term.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:54 am

Arm slot is the angle at which you release the ball. (Sidearm, three quarters, over the top, etc) Rodgers was a master as is Mahomes. Love did indeed slot some throws. He has a beautiful quick release, and his footwork seems really sound. The Tom Clements hire was really smart, it appeared to be placating Rodgers, but in reality, Clements is a tactician and he and McCarthy helped mould/build Rodgers into the accuracy machine he became, and I'm convinced that he's going to do it again with Jordan.

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murf7777's picture

September 12, 2023 at 12:00 pm

Sounds like a “game manager”…..Don’t need that, there are many in the NFL there called journeymen. YOu need a QB that makes throws and you say, wow, that was impressive.

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mrtundra's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:27 am

Let's get everybody healed up and then let's have Love lead us to victory over the Falcons! GO PACK, GO!!!

4 points
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LeotisHarris's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:33 am

Sure, but we're all day-to-day, you know?
Adversity lurks around every corner.
Can the Packers be as resilient as the Jets were last night?
Nelson Toburen
Sterling Sharpe
Tim Lewis
Nick Collins
Jermichael Finley
Aaron Rodgers
I'm optimistic about this young team, and their talented young quarterback.
That's enough for me right now.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 12, 2023 at 08:50 am

Rodgers might be out for the season. 2nd round pick.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:29 am

Yeah...but probably a high 2. Like having those 5 year rookie deals though.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:39 am

Still.....this is just too good.

It's gonna cost the Jets two second round picks to get a guy who played 3 snaps. This is why the Jets are the Jets, and the Packers are the Packers.

When you buy an old car with a lot of miles on it, you shouldn't be surprised if you have a big mechanical breakdown.

3 points
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J-Rome's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:02 am

Love's performance on 3rd down was extremely promising. He did go into a little bit of a lull after the first drive, but some of that had to do with Aaron Jones not being in the game. Honestly, what i was most happy to see was real on schedule throws on 3rd down, not heaves downfield into double coverage. That was really refreshing.

4 points
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CheeseEdWest2's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:27 am

Its a team thing, and having a viable running threat is key. I have to think they will draft a RB (just not round 3) and let Dillon go. I just wonder how long before they get another RB in the rotation. He doesn't have the full package.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:35 am

Handing off to AJD from the shotgun/draw play from a dead stop is coaching misuse. Stop it!

It is as bad as forcing Alexander the Great to play zone 10 yards off the WR.

AJD needs the handoff running downhill to put that power behind those 245 lbs to work.

3 points
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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:16 am

Did you notice we ran the play clock down too far regularly too? Usually, 4 sec not 1 or 2 but it did cost us one time out. I thought we did better playing faster and not letting the D adjust.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:13 pm

MLF took the blame for the TO. Took too long to decide the call.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:26 pm

That's what I meant. We always used to blame the QB. Maybe not their fault.

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Tater's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:12 am

"... but the Packers have to start thinking about extending him.

The Packers weren’t sure in the offseason either, which is why they only invested in a one-year deal. But if he has another outing like this, Love needs to be locked up before Halloween".

The way this is worded, it sounds like Love is only signed through this year. He signed a 1 year extension, so he is signed through 2024. No need to rush into anything. It can wait until the off-season.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:51 am

Let's play some games in 2023 before we start worrying about 2025.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:58 am

Let's let the front office be the front office. They had the foresight to trade up to draft the guy in the first place. At a minimum, let's just hope that Murphy doesn't make the call one way or the other...

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TXCHEESE's picture

September 12, 2023 at 09:58 am

Gotta get Gary extended before anyone else.

Love played well and showed good composure. There are times when his accuracy might look off, but we have to remember, he's playing with several 1st and 2nd year players, possibly not running a route as expected.

..on to ATL! Glad the team has an opportunity to play in a dome prior to Detroit. Hopefully that gives them a little experience with the indoor environment.

5 points
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stockholder's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:32 am

Scott Hunter was supposed to be the next Starr.
Look what happened after he left.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:55 am

Scott Hunter failed the eye test immediately. He shot putted ten yard outs. If Devine had gotten the Hadl that played in San Diego rather than the one who arrived in GB it may have been a different story. Devine knew Scott Hunter wasn't the answer, neither was Jerry Tagge.

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Starrbrite's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:01 am

Yes, it was Love’s 3rd down stat (the most important down in football) that is most impressive. Bart Starr was considered one of the best ever on 3rd down QB’s.
Keep the chains moving Mr. Love.
Go Packers!!!

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:21 am

I don't have a problem with converting on 1st or 2nd down all the way to the end zone either. LOL.

See they tried out interior linemen yesterday. Just trying to wake them up or do they have more of a depth problem than they let on?

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:44 am

With what we saw on O Sunday...solid passing, opportunistic play calls, but struggles running the ball, especially between the tackles...I have this suggestion:

Bakht, Jenks, Tom, JRJ, Walker or Yosh (probably Walker).

But this is just what I think.

PS...I see Yosh had his K restructured to add 4 void years and create $2.5 mil in cap. Wonder if a move is coming? Maybe interior IOL or S? Myers and Ford were the tail enders on Sunday.

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TXCHEESE's picture

September 12, 2023 at 10:57 am

would also help to line Dillon up deep and have Love under center. Give the dozer a running start, if you're going to run between the tackles.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 11:18 am

Nijman did have good run blocking grades last season, if I remember correctly.

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Coldworld's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:33 pm

He has been rated one of the best run blocking tackles for the last 2 years.

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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:46 pm

He's such a road grader. Don't even get me started on Caleb Jones.

I think Nijman has fallen out of the coaches' popularity club for some reason that hasn't shown to us (or at least me).

1 points
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EnemyTerritory's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:00 pm

I believe.

I believe in this team being better than expected by the national talking heads. I believe that the way to do that is next game and next man up stacking experience and victories and lessons learned in hard losses. I do believe the Bears are a bad football team and they may not be much better than they were last year when they had the No. 1 pick. I believe it would be unwise to ordain Jordan Love the future franchise QB that must be locked up to a long term deal one more month into his first year as QB1. I believe in a bigger data set.

Condolences to the former QB1 and to the Jets fanbase.

3 points
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T7Steve's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:25 pm

Won't it be a surprise when the Bears dominate everyone else they play and show just how good we are.

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Spock's picture

September 12, 2023 at 04:48 pm

That wouldn't be a surprise; it would be an alternate universe! The Packers IMHO are going to be pretty good, but the Bears are really that bad. :)

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croatpackfan's picture

September 12, 2023 at 01:20 pm

"Cory's Corner: Do You Believe?"

From the first moment I was able to check his tapes and listen some scouts about him. The basic assesment was that Jordan Love is (was) row, but have huge talent, at the level of Patrick Mahomes. Who want to see it, it can. Who does not want to see, he never will!

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4thand10's picture

September 12, 2023 at 03:12 pm

I highly doubt this will get read since it is way down the food chain so to speak. I first started loitering around here in 2009. I did my first superchat and sticker as fishlove73 on youtube sunday afternoon. Nags was plastered by quarter 3. Anyway…my take:

Defensively I noticed the difference the most. Everyone thinks Savage suddenly turned it around. I’d beg to differ. He has always been a fair to good player, the secondary has been on track for a couple of yrs now. The largest change has been on the DL.

Last year the Pack were short on DL to provide the flexibility and versatility needed in todays NFL. What none of the pundits are talking about is the fact that they are no longer short DL. Kenny Clark can have breathers. Barry did some interesting things. 1) He is getting better at his packages and making adjustments. One 1 play I saw 4 and repeat 4 true DOWN LINEMAN ( 300lbs each) + 2 OLBs) to counter a Shitcago running package. That’s a big change. 2) Then on a few plays he did 3 DL 2 OLBs 3) Then on another play he did 1DL and 4 OLBs ( my least favorite) . And of course then he went to the soft 2DL 2 OLBs and got gashed. ( my second least favorite D)

But my point is, he is mixing it upfront, generating different pressures and figuring out what works. So given the symbiotic relationship between line play and the secondary…it’s no miracle Savage and company are playing better. The pressure up front is helping. Now , we’ll see what happens against better O lines.

Jordan Love… I’m somewhat of a believer cause i believe if Rodgers was playing he would have been sacked 2 or 3 times. Jordan is just younger and has better legs and escapability. He rolls out faster, makes a decision to tuck and run faster and doesn’t shake his head and do crazy eye rolls if the receiver makes a mistake. Not to mention as others have talked about…the decision making, not being discriminatory of who he throws the ball to. He’s a team player.Command of the pocket was good. The accuracy is there. I hope this all continues.

2 points
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T7Steve's picture

September 13, 2023 at 06:51 am

D-line.....

A DBs best friend and makes everything click.

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Ikrispy's picture

September 12, 2023 at 06:20 pm

I believe! I believe the offense will be improved over the recent past. Love takes what the defense gives and finds the open receivers quickly. This was what Rodgers always resisted. Holding the ball has been AR's tendency and this was what caused his problem on Monday night. BUT, that's the Jets headache now!

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