It's similar to David Bakhtiari's situation, signed a long-term deal, got hurt, and lives in never-never land.

I suspect he's hurt but it could be the player is wanting to come back but has a medical issue that simply isn't fixing itself.

This coming March is clean house time again for the Packers. It might be time to find a trading partner for Alexander, too, if one can be found.

Both Alexander and Stokes, the starters a couple of years ago, have been gone and not really missed as strange as that seems.

By the way, what in the hell IS wrong with Jaire's shoulder? No one says anything specific about it. Just " shoulder injury. " What the hell is that? He hasn't played for five weeks. . . and all anyone says is " shoulder injury. " In a recent interview with Jaire in the locker room, what? half a dozen fucking reporters never asked him once, " So, specifically, in detail, can you describe what is wrong with your shoulder? " Weird, man, just fucking weird. And the guy is being paid a bundle!

I really don't give a shit whether Jaire wants to play for the Packers or not. I just wanna know what the hell, specifically, medically, is wrong with his fucking shoulder.

I agree, Cory, it's time to fish or cut bait, While Alexander has displayed the abilities to be a ProBowl corner, he's also been beaten (often enough) on easy plays he should have made for a guy being paid what he is. I personally think that when you look at his career thus far, he has talked a better game than he's played. He'd be a hell of a lot better if his play had kept up with his mouth. And now, with the questions and swirling rumors about the 'injury', it gets more complicated. If this would lead to another trade, do the Packer wind up with more Dead Cap money? That would not be good.
As for Stokes, I like the kid, thought he played well early and then the injuries took over. Another Kevin King at this point, maybe better than King, but just as injury prone. Maybe bad luck!
As for the (my) third part; 'Joe Barry's Weird Defense", please tell me WHEN you've seen the D-Backs playing four yards off a receiver on obvious passing downs, to me it seems to be more like fourteen. Somewhere, Charles Woodson and Al Harris (along with every other Corner Back worth his salt) are shaking their heads in complete disgust, and rightfully so!

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"IF" they wind up trading Alexander, and "IF" they wind up with more Dead Cap because of it, do you think that would put a dent in all the armor Gutey seems to have accumulated over the 3-game win streak? I doubt it, not with Murphy in charge!

Has he commented on the Rasul trade?

I've been wondering whether or not Jaire wants to play in Green Bay for a few weeks now. He's had shoulder problems but he's also had a back injury. He appears on the injury report as light practice but then is scratched for before every game.

When healthy he's been an excellent CB for the Packers but this season he just has not been available whether his injury is more serious than has been publicly stated or because he is hesitant to return to the field. At this point it's a bit of a mystery.

I remember that Tramon Williams lost nearly an entire season when he hurt his should beck in 2011 and he was never really the same player when he finally returned.

The least that the Packers can do as an organization is explain exactly what is Jaire's injury and when they expect him to be ready to play. If they don't tell the true story the media and fans will make it up as they have already begun to do. Thanks, Since'61

The only reason Alexander is a Packer,
is because they didn't want another
Devante Adams situation.

He 's No Roll model.
And will never be a Packer great now.

For the guy to be out this long,
one could think substance abuse.

And as far as I concerned.
If we can trade Rodgers and Adams.
It's time Alexander can go too.

Wow, I am reading a whole lot of speculation and anger. I have been told that shoulder injuries are real tricky. I know people and doctors have tried to describe how complex the shoulder connection is. Alexander is probably frustrated too. And Matt is not going to tell us squat about a medical issue. As fans we want to win now and project our frustration on the players with undue anger and speculation. Time will tell.

I can't see LaFleur confronting anyone. He publicly says that the defense showed soft coverage at end of the loss to the Giants. Who knows what happens behind closed doors though we see the same soft defense all year. Lifelong Packer fan here though I hope at the end of the year we see a cleansing. Matt and most of his coaches gone. Alexander talks a big game but has not been the same from two years ago. I said last year that he shies away from a hit due to his often-injured shoulder. As mentioned above, the young secondary is starting to play well. In 2024 we will see several starters gone. Nothing new with NFL teams. Beat the Bucs, please.

LaFleur told Alexander to sit in Corey’s Corner until he’s ready to come out and play. Is the corner or the Corner back weird?

I think his injuries are legit, and Jaire and the team are under no obligation to provide specific details of the injuries for us to consume. I also think he's fed up with playing in Barry's D. Players want to play. The Packers medical staff has the best interests of the player in mind, and that's admirable.

A dislocated shoulder or shoulder separation are very painful injuries as I have experienced both, just moving your shoulder to a certain position (even without pressure) can bring immediate pain. It is easy to understand that when a CB has to come up and tackle that he has to use the shoulder with full force in addition as I said just getting the shoulder in a specific position could also effect his movements in covering the pass. There is no reason at this time to doubt his injury status based on his history nor expect the team to go into detail on the extent of the injury from a competitive or NFL injury report legal compliance stance. Just let it play out.

If Alexander doesn't want to be in Green Bay then why did he agree to a four year contract?

Green Bay is a small town and I feel the interconnectedness with everyone prevents the neutrality one needs to be a brave and honest reporter, an objective coach, etc.
Someone like Belichik could manage to stand alone and risk being ostracized but Matt cannot. The local reporters have the same meekness.

Re: Jaire. He comes across as overly self-important, (which is off-putting to me) as does Bakhtiari, as did Rodgers. I don't see that attitude w/Jalen Hurts, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow.

Only the team doctors and Alexander himself know whether he can play or not. He may not be rushing back because he tried that earlier, hurt himself worse, and ended up missing more time. He might be a slow healer. Truth is, we don't know. Does he want to be in Green Bay? That is one question. Does he want to keep playing with an inept defensive coordinator who should have been fired last year? That is a better question. It seems defense, especially the DL sometimes just doesn't play as hard because they feel they are being put in position to fail, not succeed, by the same inept DC. For example, there are times when Clark clearly dominates the line, while he also seems to disappear for long periods of time in the game. This is, of course, speculation. But I think the entire defense would like to have someone they believe in. But then again, we've been saying that for years, and the ineptitude continues. This is where someone needs to step in, talk to LaFleur, and tell him he either gets rid of the underperforming assistants, or is shown the door, and lets the new head coach bring in his own staff. Look at the difference in Denver since Payton came in, and the team finally bought into his system.

"I don’t care that Alexander talked while injured and I don’t care that he signed a four-year, $84 million contract last May."

I certainly don't want a bunch of dead money hanging over our head with Alexander, so that $84 million dollar contract is something I care about and I think Ball and the management in Green Bay does as well. We are seeing how much of our cap is being eaten up by Aaron Rodgers leaving and with David Bakhtiari's injury keeping him off the field. The big money guys are paid big money because they are expected to perform at a high level on the field and it's important that they be there.

Neither the team nor the player owe anyone anymore details about a player injury than what is required by the NFL on the injury report.

1) Divulging medical information about a player injury can give competitors an advantage
2) Divulging medical information about a player injury does not create any advantage for the team or player
3) Divulging medical information about a player can have long term ramifications on the player's career
4) Medical information about a player is still considered privileged information
5) Despite how badly you want to know.. it's none of your damn business

It's funny how the whole "something fishy is going on with Jaire Alexander" thing wasn't a thing until a couple days ago when Gary Ellerson said something fishy is going on with Jaire Alexander, and now EVERYBODY is acting like they personally suspected something fishy is going on with Jaire Alexander.

Sports media are herd animals.

Maybe Belichek [sp] will be new DC or HC! Would be an interesting new angle or edition either way!

My opinion is Alexander despises Barry's prevent (the win) defense...mostly because it fails to showcase his talent, and tarnishes his brand of being a lockdown man corner. He is simply not a good zone corner defending in space. Barry Ball is highlighting that he is not a well rounded CB. Man to man, he's your man. Zone? Throw into his zone with success.

Barry does not care because the prevent (the win) defense is the only way he will go and how Alexander will play so the petulant CB is going to just say no. What is MLF going to do, cut him?

I expect Alexander has voiced his displeasure to Barry over how he is being showcased. That obviously went nowhere. I expect complaining to MLF was buried too. What's a disgruntled All Pro CB to do? Refuse to play and be docked $millions? Or inflate injury issues and clip the coupons?

We all know the Packer's medical staff is extremely cautious. It would be easy for Alexander to get their support to rest his "painful" shoulder or back or whatever for another week.

MLF is certainly not going to challenge the medical staff. That's unfortunate, if true.

But if Alexander is tanking in protest to how he personally is being used, I understand it, but it is poor character.

IMHO, the Packers tend to overpay their best D players simply because their defense as a whole is subpar overall as a group. Alexander is a perfect example of this. And while Kenny Clark is good, is he really worth the big salary? Hopefully, Gary will stay productive with his big salary but who knows?

Maybe big salaries for stand out players has to occur in GB now because GB may have again turned into a less desirable destination for players? Not sure? But, if u had to gamble your career as a defensive star playing for Joe Barry, would coming to GB be an easy decision? Maybe if the money is exceptional? Otherwise, why risk your short, tenuous career earnings on a team/coach(es) that are questionable?

Reading the comments on this thread, it’s amazing how many “fans” think they’re entitled to know the injury details of players and their automatic assumption that players on big time contracts are withholding their services and could play. Alexander is not as thick as may other CB’s and playing the run is not going to be as good as it was before with healthy pain free shoulders. If he is “protesting” by withholding his services over Barry, he does need to be traded but his trade value will be less if the team airs his dirty laundry. So, either way, the team needs to keep mum.

Trade value is certainly diminished over issues of being disaffected and airing dirty laundry. Trade value is equally diminished over issues of health and injury status. There's a big chunk of an $84 million number that also complicates a trade.
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Although it is really none of our business, some honesty with the team would have been better in this whole situation. If it is that bad, go on IR and let the roster churn and the team can make some necessary roster moves. That's doing right by the team.
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I think every factor is playing its part in this. A quite possible true nagging injury (however serious and long term) and a true nagging disgust with his DC for not playing him the way he wants to be played. He's waiting for the change that most of us have been waiting for. So, how does a team handle someone like that?

I posted during the our "Defcon" stretch look for established high achieving vets (Jaire was specifically mentioned) to look for an out of 1265 with the ship sinking. Then we won 3 straight, only to flop again against NY. Will be real interesting to see how this plays out...I would speculate if he is able to play during the last few games...could there be an internal agreement in place where he plays to maximize his trade value this offseason in a win-win move?

I don’t think he’s the biggest problem they have. There are 4 winnable games left. Does anyone really believe that the MLF/ Joe Barry/ Rich Bisaccia combo will get this team in the playoffs?
If it was me with Alexander, I’d put him on IR for the rest of the season. End of distraction, better for his shoulder. And the drop off to Valentine isn’t noticeable, if there is a drop off.
Deal with Bahktiari, Alexander and anyone else in the off-season.

Are we to think that all these many weeks he's lost he's been telling the team, "Yeah, it's getting better, I think I'll be able to play this week." Then when it comes to game day decisions it is, "Nope, sorry, still bad. Maybe next week."

An injury bad enough to put one out for this many weeks should have been addressed with an IR status.

Instead of trading Rasoul he should have offed this often injured cornerback Jaire Alexander. He's never on the field.