Aaron Rodgers speaks with Jets, teams await decision
Events are in motion that point toward a trade of the long time Packers quarterback
By PackerAaron
From Trey Wingo (who as most will remember, was the one to break the Randall Cobb news two years ago)
Per sources. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets had conversations today. While nothing is imminent Rodgers is open to the idea of going to NY
— trey wingo (@wingoz) March 7, 2023
This conversation could only have taken place if the Packers had given permission, as Rodgers is still under contract in Green Bay.
This obviously points to a potential trade of the four time most valuable player. The Jets are undoubtedly trying to gauge just how "all in" Rodgers intends on being and how much longer he might envision himself playing. Whatever compensation the Jets would offer would undoubtedly be tied to Rodgers commitment level.
There's also the possibility that this news could bring another team or two into the conversation, if they feel Rodgers is really going to be available.
One important thing to note is that Rodgers apparently has yet to make an actual decision about whether or not he even wants to play, leaving both teams awaiting final word from the quarterback on his future.
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Comments (270)
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 08:32 am
Finally something real. At least the pieces are in motion.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:10 am
"Finally something real."
^^THIS^^
Whether he decided to stay, go, or retire, we needed the forward movement desperately.
greengold
March 07, 2023 at 10:49 am
Ohhhhh, sizzle, SHIZZLE!!!!! It's actually happening.
I thought he'd retire after last season's debacle. Great!!!! I'm all for his being traded for whatever compensation Gutekunst can get.
Lips through the zipper "Shoot the Moon!" vibes...
A very big part of the Packers being catapulted into a position of contention again post AR trade involves players, draft capital & future cap flexibility.
Cap room alone, via the retirement path, certainly helps, but the added players/picks via trade compensation are a boon to the Green Bay Packers' plans in starting this new era.
It's starting now, as we speak. Wonderful.
Packer_Fan
March 07, 2023 at 10:59 am
Finally!! Got some good news. With Carr signing with New Orleans, the Jets have no other option than to pursue Rodgers.
So 1st and 2nd round picks this year and 1st round next year.
And the suggestion to move Douglas to safety. Here are my draft picks and free agent predictions.
Draft picks for first three rounds: DL, EDGE, WR, TE and CB. Don't want a S, not much talent anyhow. And a fourth round QB
Free agents: TE Hurst, WR Hardman and S from KC. Resign Nixon. Resign Nijman for Backup.
And the Packers will do just as good or better than last year.
greengold
March 07, 2023 at 12:35 pm
PF... Don't bother me. Can't you see I'm busy adjusting all my mocks back to 2 first round picks?
LOL
We'll see. Fun to think about the Packers getting a return in draft capital/player(s)..???
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:48 pm
I just hope Gutey doesn't try to get cute and outthink himself, which he's done several times...
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 08:33 am
This page will be very happy with this news.
Bitternotsour
March 07, 2023 at 08:39 am
The realists on this page will be secure in knowing that Aaron Rodgers will milk this for every ounce of attention it can provide.
Logic says that the Jets hired Nathaniel Hackett to entice Aaron to join him. Occam's razor and all that.
Let's all just hope this is the first step in rebuilding the house in GB.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:18 am
"The realists on this page will be secure in knowing that Aaron Rodgers will milk this for every ounce of attention it can provide."
I would. I'd be trying to find the best situation for me under these circumstances and I'd want to drive the narrative as much as possible.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:31 am
No it's - Who has the best PR?
WestCoastPackerBacker
March 07, 2023 at 10:07 am
I think we've seen that #12 doesn't give a crap about PR. Pretty much the opposite.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:37 am
...and it's in the Packers' best interest to be as quiet as possible.
greengold
March 07, 2023 at 11:01 am
Yup. Nothing more to say. We'll see...
Oppy
March 08, 2023 at 12:16 am
Rodgers drives narrative constantly.
He has been spinning public relations with selective and deceitful language in his post games, locker room interviews, and pressers for over a decade.
He actively works to promote an image and persona with selective media outlets. There's a reason he works through semi-exclusive recurring media appearances. At one time, it was Jason Wilde. Today, it's Pat McAfee. And, apparently, Aubrey Marcus. These are controlled environments where Rodgers gets to drive the message. That's quite literally PR.
greengold
March 08, 2023 at 01:39 am
In what world? LOL.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 09:29 am
The narrative that "Rodgers is an attention seeker" is funny to me. I'm sure he loves the attention, and he definitely trolls people with some stuff he says. But the whole he does nothing but seeks attention is comical to me. This page has been talking about Rodgers every day since the season has ended. There have been I have no idea how many articles about Rodgers. And then when the articles aren't written about Rodgers, he is brought up in the comment section. So is that Rodgers seeking attention?
I definitely believe part of the reason why the Jets brought in Hackett was to lure Rodgers. But I think that was a big part. Hackett has a good track record as an OC.
egbertsouse
March 07, 2023 at 09:50 am
No, he’s not an attention seeker at all. That’s why he goes on Tank Top’s show every week, did a 90 minute podcast the other day, dates every starlet and social media darling on earth, makes sure he’s on the Jumbotron at every Bucks game, and hosts Jeopardy for a week. He does all those things to avoid media attention.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 09:59 am
Lmao.
So basically everything he does is because he is an attention seeking whore?
Going on a weekly talk show, doing a podcast, dating women, forces the bucks to put him on the jumbotron at bucks games, goes to bucks games, hosted jeopardy for a week. All that stuff he does to seek attention?
WestCoastPackerBacker
March 07, 2023 at 10:15 am
Ridiculous. In 20+ years of being of single dating age and at least 15+ of those being a famous athlete he has dated a couple of actresses and another famous athlete. That's a total of 3 people. Brady dated an actress and she had his child and then he married a supermodel. Plenty of NFL stars date models and actresses. You think HE makes himself be on the Jumbotron? He's a famous person, and it's the media that creates all that. I think it's awesome he was on Jeopardy. I think he might have considered taking the host's job if they'd offered.
Would you rather have the lack of authenticity of a Russell Wilson, who says nothing, or the religious mutterings of Tebow? Not me. Plenty of guys go on Pat's show; plenty of guys have podcasts. They are allowed to be human beings with personalities and opinions. I find Rodgers interesting and engaging. If you listen to his perspective, it makes it hard to hate him, as so many "fans" seem to on this site. And complaining about Rodgers making himself available to the media on a media site is beyond hypocritical. That's what gives the media something to write about.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:35 am
I don't care what he does off the field but I do care that he always puts himself above everyone and the team. He has really become an egotistical tool in the last 5 years. We need someone to lead our team with the idea that the team and its goals are paramount.
Rodgers brings it on himself with most fans because of how he acts.
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:23 am
"golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:41 am
Yeah he isn't always so truthful, just one and a very important instance, the vaccination bullshit lying. But then its never been all about the team or anybody but Rodgers. Get rid of him finally and start over."
It speaks volumes that this is your example.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:43 am
Just FYI - I saw the Scoreboard yesterday...
Conspiracy Theorists 42 - Radical Socialists 0
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:56 am
I saw an updated one that is now 59-0.
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:00 pm
lol. I'm sure the "experts" will be issuing the appropriate retractions any day now : )
Oppy
March 08, 2023 at 12:20 am
" If you listen to his perspective, it makes it hard to hate him..."
If you believe what he's selling, it makes it hard to hate him. If you compare his deeds and actions to what he's selling, it makes it measurably easier to strongly dislike him.
Rodger talks a mean game. His actions often do not back up the presentation.
Packerpasty
March 07, 2023 at 12:10 pm
oh, so he's supposed to recluse himself ion Cali and not do anything he likes to do because its attention...not like any other superstars do the same thing if not more hey...OK I see where your at...lets hope the beloved Love stays hidden in his apartment or the wrath of CHTV jokers will be upon him...
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:29 am
At this point Rodgers is a cancer to the Packers organization and the players. He has been a great player but this is the Green Bay Packers not the Aaron Rodger Packers. No player should hold up a billion dollar franchise. It would have been way better to trade him last year but we can still salvage a really good deal with the competion this move will bring.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 10:35 am
Cancer is a strong word.
How is Rodgers a cancer to the Packers?
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:35 am
Aaron Jones doesn't seem to think so : )
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:42 am
But golf said it here so it must be true. :)
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:45 am
Just FYI -
Some people just hate people that don't buy into their BS narratives.
They also seem to scream the loudest...
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:57 am
Very true.
"Some men just want to see the world burn". I think that quote from Batman fits really well.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:11 pm
I thought Nero's best friend said it first though?
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:19 pm
probably right. I just love that line in batman.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 02:02 pm
Wasn’t that the horse?
Philarod
March 07, 2023 at 11:12 am
I don't get it, either.
Full disclosure? I remain a fan, and consider him the best QB (of course, I also see a strong case for Brady and a budding one...too soon...for Mahomes) of this whole SB Era.
Except for Covid policy (where I disagree almost completely with him) I find him to be a thoughtful, interesting guy who handles his responsibilities on and off the field quite professionally.
Okay, I don't see the whole attention-seeker thing. As arguably a top 2 or 3 name in the biggest sports league in the country, he's automatically big news. But yeah, other than the McAfee show, he's about the most reclusive "attention seeker" in history.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:02 pm
"Except for Covid policy (where I disagree almost completely with him)"
Which part are you referring to about this?
I will say when he talks, I appreciate him. I like that he is willing to say whatever and isn't too worried about taking a lot of heat for it. Even if his opinions are unpopular.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:13 pm
"Well, he was right so..."
Philarod
March 07, 2023 at 12:33 pm
I know I brought it up, but it's tangential to this thread.
More or less, I find him to be a very bright, thoughtful guy (even if we're far apart on that).
Moving on...
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 01:32 pm
No worries. i was just curious.
NickPerry
March 08, 2023 at 06:00 am
"And then when the articles aren't written about Rodgers, he is brought up in the comment section. So is that Rodgers seeking attention?"
Hmm...Could it be it's more about needing the Rodgers situation resolved before anything else? I HIGHLY doubt Aaron Rodgers is reading our comments. Just saying RC...
Irish_Cheesehead
March 07, 2023 at 10:59 am
But then can Mike Pettine entice him to come to Minnesota in another year?
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:03 pm
And then he will be throwing an interception in the NFC championship game to the Saints, where Carr will be leading the Saints to the Superbowl.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 04:38 pm
Pettine gets fired after the Vikings collapse, go 0-6 in the division, and finish in last place.
I don't think Rodgers is driven by revenge in the way that Favre was. Rodgers legacy in Green Bay is that he was a great QB who didn't go to the Super Bowl for the last 12 years, including some years with some pretty good teams around him.
Now, he can change the ending. Go to the Jets. He's the missing piece. He'll instantly transform the Jets to a probable playoff team....unless he's declined since the end of last season. So that'll just be another chapter of his awesomeness.
After he retires, I hope he returns to Green Bay and I hope he's well received.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 08:55 am
In the sense that he’s actively investigating his options, yes, because that indicates movement and active engagement beyond introspection. That’s a necessary precursor to a resolution, but also to getting an informed decision and thus a chance of true buy in, whether it’s to retire, to return or to move.
Now we may see if there’s a market beyond the Jets that is if interest to him I expect. Then we find out if there’s a real interest in a new team or if this is just curiosity. Perhaps, given Carr he could even see the chance to improve on his contract. who knows. It could equally be that he just wants to make sure there’s nothing out there that motivates him to return or move. At least the wheels are turning.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 09:42 am
I'm all good with what you said in the first paragraph. It is movement and we are needing to move forward. At least we have something new to talk about compared to the last however long when everyone has been regurgitating the same stuff day after day.
At this point who knows what is going to happen. If Rodgers decides he wants to play and where he wants to play. If the Packers want him back or want him gone. What teams are interested in trading for him. And what those teams will be willing to give up for him. There are a lot of dominos that need to fall.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 10:32 am
We at least have moved on from the dead zone. This could yet be a long road with much fan acrimony. If we are lucky, it gets resolved quickly, but, as you suggest, that’s not a certainty. Still, it’s at least moving.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 10:47 am
Exactly.
For all of us, hopefully whatever the decision is, it happens fast. People are way to impatient.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 09:55 am
While of course there is no way I know anymore than anyone else I keep saying there is absolutely zero chance AR is retiring in the next few years. Zero chance! If people have really paid attention to AR over the years you should understand how he operates. Basically, he is so talented he tends to coast and loses his edge after awhile. It is human nature! He thrives on controversy & conflict to motivate him. In a weird way I understand that!
Rodgers needed the green room experience. He needed the Favre experience. He needed Jordan Love being drafted. Now with reports of the Packers being disgusted with him for a myriad of reasons (combined with what is happening behind closed doors) Rodgers is fired up.
Make no doubt about it Rodgers is coming back for a number of years and that isn't taking into account his guaranteed salary, and constantly being in the news feeding his ego. Because of the offseason news reports I believe wherever Rodgers ends up playing he is going to have a great season because of his reputation being tarnished & no doubt him feeling he has been wronged by the Packer brass.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 10:05 am
I agree with you that he isn't retiring.
I will add another one that is very underrated that Rodgers needed and for them to draft Brian Brohm in the 2nd round. Even though Brohm was not good, just the fact that they used a 2nd round pick on a QB I believe did motivate him or add a chip to his shoulder.
When you say coming back for a number of years, are you saying he is coming back to GB or to football and whatever team?
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:46 am
RC,
Everything points to AR leaving the Pack, but boy "he is a complicated fella." He also is extremely shrewd & likes messing with everyone.
Which means who the hell knows where he ends up? I do sorely hope it isn't with the Packers because I believe for many reasons the Packers need to move forward with the Love era. Add some talented new WR's and TE's and let them all grow with Love for the next 4+ years.
Most people are saying Rodgers might play another year or two, but I believe he very well might play considerably longer. Of course health makes a big part of that equation. Rodgers loves football and he is talented. I simply think he has everything and is terribly bored and desperately needs a fresh start somewhere else.
Most think he has it all together but he is a mess. Look at his personal life and his relationships with females & need for constant change. Look at his constant need to do off the wall stuff like going to India to meet with the Dali Lama. Going to Peru for psychedelics and ayahuasca. Dating the alleged witch and her off the wall philosophy. Going into a 4 day darkness retreat. Without football which is the one stabilizing constant in his life Rodgers is lost. He gave up his family.
I believe he needs change and new challenges to keep his interest. Rodgers will keep playing for quite a few years if healthy and performance remains at an acceptable level.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 11:54 am
Yes, the signs are saying that he will be leaving. With reports upon reports. So we will see. I'm not making any predictions because what is the point of that at this time. I will just sit and watch how it plays out.
I am fine with Rodgers leaving IF the Packers feel Love is the guy. I don't feel that it would be wise for them to get rid of Rodgers because they don't like Rodgers. I just feel that they should only make this move if they feel really good about Love and he is ready to be the guy.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 12:32 pm
RC,
One would think if they actually are trading Rodgers they would never do that unless they believe Love is ready be foolish otherwise...right? Gutey lose his job & the Packers look bad all around.
The only twist to that would be if Rodgers is the one forcing a trade behind the scene & the Packers have no choice. Subsequently, Love whether ready or not is QB1. I don't believe it is the latter.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:39 pm
Lol...
I hope Rodgers is the one forcing a trade behinds the scenes!
I also hope this is true:
“Let me tell you … Jordan Love is better than Herbert, and I'd take him over anyone but Tua …” – anonymous NFL scout to Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller, September 2019
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 01:03 pm
BD,
LOL is right!
Rodgers isn't forcing the trade but hopefully Miller's report turns out to be true.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 01:35 pm
Which i would hope that would be the case.
But then you hear the reports about the Packers being disgusted with Rodgers and stuff like that. To me that isn't the reason to trade him. It should be more based on them feeling good where Love is at and then make the move, because they will feel it won't be that big of a drop off.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 02:56 pm
RC,
I hear you but not sure why everyone always assumes there is going to be a drop off if Love takes over. I'm being optimistic and strongly believe if Love is healthy his 2023 stats may very well be an upgrade over Rodgers 2022 stats.
I believe Love is going to inject some excitement to the offense, particularly if the Pack picks someone named Dalton Kincaid, or a Quentin Johnston, or a Luke Musgrave, as examples.
barutanseijin
March 07, 2023 at 02:07 pm
Zero chance?
Hardly . If he has another serious injury, say another broken collarbone, he’s done. The likelihood of such an injury in the NFL is never zero.
Oppy
March 07, 2023 at 08:57 am
I think a good portion will be.
By the way, this page is filled with more die hards than most. Most pages are filled with fluff fans who barely scratch the surface.
Long live the long-term health of the Packers.
Get 12 out the door, stop the bleeding, stop the insanity, and start building the future instead of hanging on the past.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 09:51 am
There is a huge portion that wants Rodgers gone. And there is another portion that the second you say anything positive about Rodgers, they jump all over you like a pack of wolves.
This is definitely a die hard page. Its why I'm here and have been here for a long time!
But the last few years on social media and on this page have unfortunately changed. People are more combative. Someone can't just state their opinion and people just read it and move on. People now have to go and disagree with them and argue with them. And on this page Rodgers is a hot button topic for many.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 10:40 am
No more than Favre was, perhaps even a little less. For the most part, one can at least have a conversation here to some extent. There will always be strong feelings and disagreement—that’s the nature of being an informed and committed supporter. That is better than other sites I find. For that reason, I’ve largely withdrawn for now from others, but, as we have discussed, there’s no avoiding the QB issue because it touches virtually all others.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:08 pm
For the most part you can have pretty good conversations and debates. But sometimes things can bring out the pitchforks.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:14 pm
This page always had its moments. It varies according to how salient the issues are. We’ve had a few: Drayton and Barry being recent issues, that evoke strong feelings as did the circumstances of the two Championship losses. I’d say that’s natural. Over that time, most of us continue to debate and find ourselves agreeing and not with different people at times. It’s natural, for the only reason we are here is that we care about and are interested in the Packers and football.
T7Steve
March 07, 2023 at 11:04 am
I think there are a bunch of us that will root for Rodgers wherever he goes or if he stays (like Favre before him), unless he's playing against the Packers.
It's fair to debate weather it's better if he stays or goes. It seems CHTV and other places have come to the conclusion that it's better for both the Packers and Rodgers to start a new phase.
It's always sad to end an era. This one is in its waning moments regardless of what actually happens now. We have to look and hope for an exciting new era after this one ends.
I try not to be combative and like it when people try to put me in my place and teach me, either with thumbs or actual knowledge. I'm glad people respond with all their Packer fan emotions. It keeps me coming back.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 12:11 pm
yeah I rooted for Favre until he went to the Vikings. Sorry I just can't do that.
You definitely aren't combative. We have always had good talks I feel.
T7Steve
March 07, 2023 at 12:33 pm
It was the worst when he came to Lambo with the Vikings. At that point, I had to hope he didn't retire until we beat him.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 01:51 pm
I hated watching Favre play us. Just felt wrong, but consoled myself with the thought that it was less wrong than the other way around would have been.
murf7777
March 07, 2023 at 01:50 pm
RC, I’ve been a supporter of keeping Rodgers for years, because he gives us the best chance of winning a SB. Whether that has happened or not, he still gives us a good chance to win every single game. The problem is the only times we won the SB is when we have a top 5 Defense and as hard as Green Bay has tried to achieve that they have failed. I do know they have tried based on the emphasis of drafting top picks.
Now, I don’t really care, I’m tired of the annual drama, just want closure so we can move on with a rebuild with Love or make another run with Rodgers. Either way, I know how difficult it is to manage and win in the NFL. I try not to critique decisions of our FO, and just want to root for whatever direction GB takes. Too many are overly critical of our FO’s decisions. Of course, those have hindsight to their advantage. The one thing I really know is we are one of the best run Franchises over the past 30 years.
RCPackerFan
March 07, 2023 at 01:56 pm
I'm in the same boat as you murf. I feel the same way.
I'm just hopeful we can continue to be one of the best run franchises moving forward.
jont
March 07, 2023 at 03:25 pm
RC: "But the last few years ... on this page have unfortunately changed."
Yep.
Totally off topic, I don't get it. Internet anonymity allows you to be anyone you want to be, and that so many choose to be unpleasant and unlikeable is just beyond me.
I know, I know, I can't relate because I'm a handsome pro golfer who designs yachts in his spare time so these schlubs are beneath me, but still ....
RCPackerFan
March 08, 2023 at 09:55 am
I'm me on this page and in real life. If i was talking to you or anyone on this page I'd say the exact same thing. To bad more people weren't that way. The keyboard warriors aren't though.
Maybe you could give me some golfing tips someday. :)
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 08:34 am
Jets, Raiders, and Panthers?
I really don't care where he goes as long as we get at minimum a 1st and 2nd this year...
If Murphy and Gutey screw this up, I will be one pissed off Packer Fan...
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:39 am
Murphy and Gute haven't screwed things up enough so far?
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 08:57 am
Don’t worry, we still have LaFleur whatever.
PackerHotDish
March 07, 2023 at 10:55 am
How can you possibly exclude LaFleur in your reasoning of Packer screw-ups?
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:03 am
Murphy’s Law?
cdoemel
March 07, 2023 at 01:23 pm
Right. The haven’t
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 08:48 am
The comp will depend on Rodgers commitment to play for more than one year , would certainly love a 1st and 2 nd plus player/s . 23-1+23-2 plus 24-2 plus player/s would be fine but whatever we get it helps gb move forward and begins the cap healing and brings that fresh new start should bring excitement for all fans at least for me it will Remember many were afraid to move on from farve , but that worked out great and it will again !!
jannesbjornson
March 07, 2023 at 10:11 am
A three pick.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:11 am
"If Murphy and Gutey screw this up, I will be one pissed off Packer Fan..."
This is 12's show, at this point.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:05 am
True, it is 12s show, but that doesn't mean Murphy can't or won't screw it up...
I almost expect Murphy to screw it up.
JDH1313
March 07, 2023 at 10:17 am
Rodgers isn't worth a 1st & 2nd period, as of right now they will be lucky to get a 2nd & a player
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:28 pm
If it’s worth doing, it’s not for the pick but what it frees up and the chance to build the rest of the roster back more quickly. What else we get is a bonus. If we trade him we are admitting that we dug a monstrous hole with that extension. If Rodgers moves it gets us out of that to a considerable extent, though we are still paying a lot now and next year.
It asks the question of how did we commit to something of that magnitude a year ago and now have to admit we are so badly wrong and pray another team saves us. We can’t save ourselves, we are reliant on Rodgers choosing to leave.
If we trade him now, we are admitting that we should have last year. How did Rodgers plus our cap and roster make sense then to the extent that contract suggests in terms of money and ceded control? If we don’t get a large haul, that doesn’t invalidate the trade, but it does raise the stakes for that question.
PackyCheese500
March 07, 2023 at 07:25 pm
We will not be getting a 1st and a 2nd this year unless Bakh is included in a deal. I see two firsts as most likely, with the one in 2024 being conditional
EnemyTerritory
March 07, 2023 at 08:38 am
He’s playing the media and fans…. Sorry, that’s just my conclusion.
Since'61
March 07, 2023 at 11:50 am
He is also playing the teams along with the media and the fans. Thanks, Since '61
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 08:48 am
If he's willing to talk.
He's willing to play.
Sounds like the internal struggle
is with Gutey.
Start the war #12.
Wear a Headband with Gutey on it,
There is No class when your in Rome.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 08:52 am
Just admit he’s leaving and accept reality
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 08:58 am
The packers will be cursed!
Like I told Wolf jr.
This isn't the knights of the Round Table now.
IF # 12 Leaves too..
Lambeau Field has become Rome.
The excuses have just begun.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 09:12 am
Rome is a wonderful city. That’s OK with me.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:18 am
Hail Ceasar. I mean Gutey.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 10:44 am
One thing is not open to debate, Gute isn’t Caesar. Markus Murphius would like a word and possibly a diverting disemboweling over lunch for such disrespect.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 11:11 am
Markus Murphius 🤣🤣🤣🤣
PatrickGB
March 07, 2023 at 01:48 pm
Beware of the ides of March!
LeotisHarris
March 07, 2023 at 03:14 pm
Kinda in the mood for a good disemboweling over here.
"But when in Rome they say 'Shoot Roman Candles'
that way, nobody thinks you’re crazy." -- Todd Snider
Johnblood27
March 07, 2023 at 05:02 pm
he meant Rome, NY... right next to Utica... that's not a place to be...
barutanseijin
March 07, 2023 at 02:17 pm
The excuses began in 2011.
Oppy
March 07, 2023 at 08:55 am
I guess you'll never understand that Rodgers is all about the best interests of Aaron Rodgers, had has been for nearly a decade at this point... while Gutekunst is all about the Green Bay Packers, and has been for nearly 25 years.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:05 am
It's sad to think the Packers have lost all class.
That explains how Gutey put in 25 yrs.
Maybe a Logo change will help.
jannesbjornson
March 07, 2023 at 10:19 am
No doubt, the guy's track record with the drafts and transactions would get bigger people tossed in any competitive organization. If he plays out his marked cards, expect Love to want out of the circus, next.
gmeyers1
March 07, 2023 at 09:06 am
Both of them are looking out for themselves & their own families, as they should be.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:17 am
It's a proxy war for his gripes with BG.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:26 am
A few flames and pitch fork
for more cap hell.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 09:27 am
Lol...Gute might be all about the Green Bay Packers, but that doesn't mean he hasn't made huge mistakes.
Aaron Rodgers is human and makes mistakes, just like you, your spouse, your parents, your kids, etc.
Lets stop with the Aaron Rodgers must be perfect or you'll hate him forever (grow up), while all the others can do no wrong.
Everything is Rodgers fault, amirite?
I have a question for some of you drinking the haterade.
Who has been most responsible for the success of the Packers from 2008 - present.
Murphy? Gute? McGravy? MLF? The towel boy?
Show some respect.
croatpackfan
March 07, 2023 at 12:13 pm
There is no person who do or did not make mistakes while he/she working. It is not about making the mistakes, it is about 1. not blaming others for your mistakes, 2. learning from your mistakes, 3. learning from others mistakes, 4. not pointing others when they did mistakes, but trying to help them to overcome those mistakes, 5. not repeating your mistakes.
And, the most important lesson. If you do not want others to mess with your life, do not go public with your life. Keep it private as much as you can.
Also, when you made decisions about your life, try to think about other people your decisions might influence on. It is your life, but you are not alone in this world. And on your path there was many that helped you to grow to the person you are today. If you seek respect, try to give the larger respect to one or ones you seek it from.
That is all I have to say on your post. No hate, no attack, just MHO!
Oppy
March 08, 2023 at 12:03 am
I didn't say Gutekunst hasn't made mistakes. I have never said I hate Aaron Rodgers because he isn't perfect. I like when you insinuate arguments that were never presented. Strawman fallacies seem to be one of your specialties.
Rodgers hasn't shown respect for the Packers since roughly 2017. I will decline to show respect for a man I don't respect.
This is typically the point where you go full pigeon playing chess. Have at it.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:00 am
Well said Oppy & so obviously true!
packer132
March 07, 2023 at 08:56 am
SH: So you would become a Jets fan?
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 08:58 am
He didn’t go with Favre.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:00 am
CW, I doubt he was even born yet.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 09:08 am
Lol, yes, he was
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:38 am
Had me fooled.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:48 am
Unfortunately...
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 08:59 am
SH, Im genuinely concerned for your well being.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:09 am
You and others HERE=
CAN'T stand a difference of opinion.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 09:24 am
S h check out acme packing as there are a few like you there that attack me for even suggesting an ar trade You might like them
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:42 am
Can't - Was Banned.
I won't change my name.
(To go back on. )
Tex and I HAD an exchange.
No person is guilty until
he has a fair trail.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:21 pm
Well, he is a radical socialist, so...
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger there sh.
They banned me for actually speaking the truth.
There are a lot of socialists/communists out there, so tread lightly.
Bitternotsour
March 07, 2023 at 01:03 pm
so hilarious. you must be at odds with yourself, not only do you support a team that has no "owner" and is collectively held, but you apparently revel in being regularly publicly owned.
Oppy
March 07, 2023 at 10:10 pm
I don't know that I think the attack on Uni is warranted, but I appreciate the wit that went into your comment.
"Pretty, pretty good."
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:40 am
Oh SH lighten up. I actually admire your loyalty to him even tho I dont think he deserves it.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 10:22 am
I do know some Tom Brady fans.
They switched Teams.
But that isn't me.
I believe if Rodgers had enough.
He'd retire right after the season was over.
Much like Brees, Brady, and others.
He wants to play and thats Gutey's problem.
The other is these coaches will be next.
Because shit only flows downhill.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 11:13 am
No thats Rodgers' problem. Packers have been preparing for this moment for 3 years.
jannesbjornson
March 07, 2023 at 05:58 pm
The Herd, Follows. The church ladies, sing.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:13 am
It doesn't sound like there'll be any war.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 02:01 pm
Perspective Dobber, it’s all in how you look at it.
“Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.”
GEORGE C. SCOTT - Gen. 'Buck' Turgidson, Dr. Strangelove.
stockholder
March 08, 2023 at 12:55 am
But there should be.
You have a coach that wanted him back.
MLF should fire his staff. Then resign.
Thats the only way to stop a boss
that has made such a bad draft decision.
Love was the instrument of a GM that wanted
power.
A GM that could sit in his seat for 20 years
if he got to rebuild.
PeteK
March 07, 2023 at 08:50 am
Carr is signed and AR will be a Jet. Compensation will be figured out by the weekend as free agency legal tampering starts Monday. First signee Nixon then Reed.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 08:53 am
Ford ,Hollins , Wilson also
Cubbygold
March 07, 2023 at 09:00 am
And then draft Kincaid and JSN
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 08:59 am
LFG!!!
Cubbygold
March 07, 2023 at 08:59 am
If this report is true, then it's a done deal.
No way Rodgers is talking to the Jets if he's thinking about retiring.
No way Rodgers is talking to the Jets if he's not open to a trade.
No way Rodgers is talking to the Jets and then ends up playing for the Packers.
No way Rodgers is open to a trade and the deal doesn't get done because of the trade value/terms.
If he's talking to the Jets, he's a Jet... just hope it's true.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:03 am
I could still see him retiring.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 09:13 am
I don't. Sounds like he still wants to play
Nobody has shown why he shouldn't!
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 09:16 am
Presumably the Jets rather hope he does or they were wasting their time finding out if he really does.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:43 am
I do want Rodgers traded and for this endless drama to be done. AR has been one of the best quarterbacks to play and I think he still has more in the tank. The hand really screwed him up last year. If he is healthy he is a top 5 QB and I hope he has success if the Jets get him. He has worn out his welcome and I don't think he has it in him to apologize or be remorseful.
jannesbjornson
March 07, 2023 at 12:14 pm
He's fine. The Fans are the problem. THEY need to get Better. See through the smoke.
Oppy
March 08, 2023 at 12:05 am
We're fine. Rodgers is a problem. YOU need to see through the smoke.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 09:17 am
Who retires and gives up 59 million for 6 months of work?
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:35 am
I dont think the Packers want him back nor do I think any teams who still need a qb are willing to pay his salary and asking price for a guy whos noncommittal. That leaves retirement.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 02:21 pm
Ok 😏, when we see how this pans out, tell me more about his retirement.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 05:08 pm
You act like im over here placing bets. I said i could see him retiring. Please explain to me how that single sentence hurt you.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:58 pm
Lol...I'm never hurt, but i'm always entertained.
No, what you said was..."that leaves retirement"
If Rodgers doesn't want a trade, but still wants to play, but the Packers don't want him back.
The Packers have two choices, let him play, or cut him a check for 59 million and tell him to have a nice day.
Nobody retires when they are guarantee 60 million for 6 months of work.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 09:33 am
I just don't see how he could leave over $50 million on the table...
Probably more like $150 million on the table. (Sure they would rework his contract if he signs.)
13TimeChamps
March 07, 2023 at 09:59 am
I could still see the Jets not giving GB what they want in a trade.
They're talking. That's the first step. But that's all it is at this point.
Wake me up when the fat lady sings.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 02:24 pm
If the Packers truly don't want Rodgers back but Rodgers wants to play, and the only place Rodgers will go is New York.
Then the Packers will take whatever the Jets offer.
OR....Rodgers stays in Green Bay.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:03 am
Zero chance! Besides $60,000,000 AR will retire on his own choosing. AR needs controversy & conflict to motivate himself. He remembers what Favre did and is taking a page out of Favres book.
GP1
March 07, 2023 at 11:40 pm
Rogers is not going to retire then go 1st Ballot HOF with Brady which means he'd be an after thought on the big day because the GOAT would have all the attention.
fthisJack
March 07, 2023 at 09:19 am
That depends on who wants him the most and offers the best compensation if Mr. Rodgers is agreeable. It's never over til it's over.
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 12:56 pm
Its over he is going nowhere and he knows it. Just another mystery thing to screw with everybody.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:05 am
Ok lets start the negotiations. We trade Aaron Rodgers, David Bahktiari, and Darnell Savage for 2023 #1, 2023 #2, 2024 #2, 2024 #3, 2025 #3. We also want Mekhi Becton-OT,
Elijah Moore-WR, Denzel Mims-WR. And trow in Jeremy Ruckert-TE and we have a deal.
Its time to also move on from Bahktiari, too many injuries and it also makes Aaron happier because he has some familiar in New York. The picks speak for themselves, a good haul for us spread out so it doesn't hurt New York much. Becton Moore, and Mims need a change of scenery and the Jets aren' thrilled with any of them, but they were all projected to be stars. We were really hot on Mims and Moore when they were drafted. Neither has don e much with nobody to throw to them. Ruckert was a late 3rd round pick and the 4th TE taken in the 2022 draft so they would be very attached there either. The Jets have made it known how badly they want Rodgers. Lets get it going. Tell me what you think.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:44 am
"Ok lets start the negotiations. We trade Aaron Rodgers, David Bahktiari, and Darnell Savage for 2023 #1, 2023 #2, 2024 #2, 2024 #3, 2025 #3. We also want Mekhi Becton-OT,
Elijah Moore-WR, Denzel Mims-WR. And trow in Jeremy Ruckert-TE and we have a deal.'
I thought fantasy football season ended in January...
Since'61
March 08, 2023 at 09:01 pm
Cookie for dobber! Thanks, Since '61
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 12:55 pm
What about him saying, go ahead and make your plans without me I'm staying a packer but didnt want you guys to hold off waiting on me. Thank You very much.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 09:12 am
I'd be shocked if he was dealt to the Jets.
Despite his flaws, one thing you can say about Rodgers is he doesn't waffle, when he says something, he usually means it and doesn't back track.
Rodgers has always said he wanted to finish his career in Green Bay.
If he went to the Jets, he'd have to convince them he'd be there for at least 2 years, they may even want 3.
Not sure if Rodgers has the passion to play that long.
Championships used to be #1 with him (2008 - about 2017), until he realized it most likely wasn't going to happen in Green Bay.
For sure, when Love was drafted, instead of drafting a player to help a team who was 1 game away from the Super Bowl.
Gute drafted for the future with Love, giving up on that 2019 team.
Gee....maybe that's why Rodgers said.....trade me.
All the while, letting the receiver room deplete in talent.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
I question why Rodgers would want to go to another team, learning a new offense, having to develop rapport with teammates and the team in general, in a short window of time.
For a chance to win the Super Bowl?
Keeping in mind, this is the Jets.
The last time the Jets were in the Super Bowl, Motortrends car of the year was the 1969 Plymouth Road Runner, and gas was 35 cents a gallon.
The same year President Nixon was sworn in.
Maybe something happened in Green Bay that would make him want to leave, idk...regardless.
I've long said, if your going to trade him, you missed the boat, that was 2020/2021 for a Kings ransom.
Then Packer Management tripped over themselves and gave him new guaranteed money for the 2022 and 2023 season....OOPS, more mistakes...i see a pattern of mistakes.
My best guess this last year is that Rodgers stays on this season (his last). They part ways friendly (lessons learned from Farve).
They appease J. Love to sit a 4th year by giving him his 5th year option worth about 20 million guaranteed.
Could i be wrong, hell yes i could be wrong...like that one time back in 2014. 😜
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 09:15 am
"Despite his flaws, one thing you can say about Rodgers is he doesn't waffle, when he says something, he usually means it and doesn't back track."
When was the last time he said that on the record?
"Rodgers has always said he wanted to finish his career in Green Bay."
He can always sign a one-day contract and retire a Packer.
fthisJack
March 07, 2023 at 09:25 am
He waffled when he badmouthed Gutey and threatened to leave then loved him when he got his buddy Cobb back and they gave him a buzillion dollar contract.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 09:32 am
Seriously?
Grow up, you sound like a little b
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 01:48 pm
I know, i know...it was a lil harsh...
Can i make it up to him, i'd like to send him a new dress.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 09:41 am
Yeah he isn't always so truthful, just one and a very important instance, the vaccination bullshit lying. But then its never been all about the team or anybody but Rodgers. Get rid of him finally and start over.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 10:01 am
Yes golfpacker1...lets rid ourselves of these HOF QB's...it's such a burden!! 😒
I want to be more like some of the other teams, we don't need no stinkin franchise QB.
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 09:52 am
When was the last time he said that on the record?
"Rodgers has always said he wanted to finish his career in Green Bay."
Actually he said it on McAfee a few weeks ago.
Paraphrasing:
" I want to finish my career with the Packers, and maybe I have"
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 09:57 am
I feel like i'm losing brain cells in here. (YES), immediately go click the thumbs down....lol...and grab a cookie if it makes you feel better.
@Dobber....
He said numerous times he wanted to finish his career here, play for one team.
Yes, he's said these things, i'd like to think Packer fans would know that.
Signing a one day contract has nothing to do with what i said.
*************
Rodgers told reporters Thursday that he hopes to still be with the Packers when he turns 40, adding that he wants to finish his career in Green Bay, per ESPN.com's Rob Demovsky:
"For me, I think the longevity is tied to being a Green Bay Packer. I'd like to finish my career in Green Bay." - Rodgers
Rodgers admitted Friday he was surprised and not "thrilled by the pick, necessarily," but he added, "I understand."
Rodgers said during a nearly 40-minute conference call. "Because as much as I feel confident in my abilities and what I can accomplish and what we can accomplish, there are some new factors that are out of my control. And so my sincere desire to start and finish with the same organization...."
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:46 am
Put dates on those quotes.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 01:40 pm
"Put dates on those quotes....waa ...waa"
Who the .... are you, my Daddy?
Can you do anything for yourself dobber?
Listen close... first, google....Rodgers said he wanted to play his entire career in Green Bay.
Then, check out the links, read it, and look at the dates.
Can you do that?
Who wipes your... for you?
Again, most Packer fans, know this stuff.
But you wanna call me out on it? lol...keep up the good work dobber.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 01:48 pm
Yawn.
greengold
March 08, 2023 at 02:00 am
All-Pro yawn.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz z z z Huh? Wha?
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:02 am
Look, no one can make Rodgers do anything. That’s the result of the agreement Murphy handed him last year. If he goes to another , it’s because he chooses to.
There are reasons why moving on from Rodgers or keeping him could be advanced rationally, but this highly emotive crap is just that, and not among them.
Enough Rodgers is divine/diabolical. He’s neither devil nor saint and such emotive depictions just make this personal to him and posters here. They are also devoid of value, predictive or factual.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 04:47 pm
Well, the Packers have him in the position where he'll either have to retire, or accept a trade. He gets well paid, either way, thanks to the contract agreement. That same agreement also insures the Packers will be compensated if he keeps playing....which I seriously believe he will.
This is about what's best for the team. It seems to me from the front office down to the message boards, there's a sense that we're better off with Love. Of course, they wouldn't feel that way if they knew Love wasn't very good, so that kind of reasoning doesn't wash. They know he's good, and he's ready, and so are they.
So rather than the way we switched from Favre to Rodgers, we're not going to have our former QB throwing crap at the organization. That's a good thing.
He's done in Green Bay, Coldworld. I hope/think we'll be better next year, and if we are, we're going to be in contention for the division title. There's a lot of potential there if we can put it all together.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:24 pm
If the Packers knew Love was good, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The Packers wouldn't have given Rodgers that new deal a year ago.
BTW LH...Rodgers can't retire ...and get paid. That isn't how retiring works.
Unless your name is Ted Thompson.
Hell, Ted got fired and still collected for 3 years, while living down in Texas... 😮
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:42 pm
The Packers can’t know if Love is good because they’ve never given him a true test. That is on them. Let’s call it the BrohmFlynn Law. TT believed in Rodgers enough to move Favre but not enough not to pick 2 QBs in the intervening draft, just in case.
Oppy
March 08, 2023 at 12:09 am
Plan for success and prepare for the worst.
Since'75
March 09, 2023 at 11:52 pm
"The Packers can’t know if Love is good because they’ve never given him a true test. " - Coldworld
"We've seen what we need to see in Jordan Love" - Gute
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 01:43 pm
Only 4 thumbs down so far....
That's only 4 cookies
Thanks for helping dobber, but that isn't enough.
Help me out people, cookies are cheaper by the dozen.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 05:44 pm
75, you have the best avatar
Rodgers has said things in the past, and so have I.
It's this simple: He'll retire or not. If he retires, he forfeits the right to quite a bit of money. If he plays, he gets the money/adulation/fun that goes with it.
So, he will choose not to retire, he'll choose to play, and he'll play for the team that makes the most attractive offer for him. Either way, the 2023 Packers are setting sail, and Rodgers isn't on board.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:30 pm
Thanks LH
**************
I didn't see this post earlier LH, i read and commented on this post you made earlier.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 04:47 pm
"Well, the Packers have him in the position where he'll either have to retire, or accept a trade. He gets well paid, either way."
Maybe you realized he doesn't get paid after posting that.
Whatever it is, it's all good.
*************
As far as the Packers setting sail, lets see what happens, this thing isn't concluded by a report that he talked to the Jets.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 09:31 am
If ar plays one more yr than retires it leaves gb with a 64 million dead cap hit in 24 add 20 mil for loves fifth yr option that 84 mil for one position in a restarting year so no now is the time to say thanks for the memories but GOODBYE
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 10:24 am
Well...lol....MAYBE, Gute and Murphy should have thought of that before offering Rodgers 58.3 million fully guaranteed in 2023.
Who structured that contract, the Easter Bunny, the Packers, or Rodgers?
BTW....i highly doubt that 64 mill number in 2024.
I see about 40 million.
But that doesn't follow the narrative of Packer management doing no wrong...it's Rodgers fault!!
Rodgers could tell the Packers that he's playing another year, and he wants all of his 58.3 million before week one and he won't restructure his deal to help them out.
What can the Packers then do?
Not a damn thing because that's the deal they gave him.
It's not Rodgers fault, him and his agent are smarter than Murphy/Gutee.
Rodgers has been bending Gute and Murphy over for years, but they are too inept and weak to do anything about it.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:38 pm
It’s not Gute, but Murphy and Ball who decide on and negotiate contracts. That aside, there should be lots of questions asked about how a contract of that nature came to be agreed and yet have such a short shelf life. Yes, there are issues behind some if this, undoubtedly.
Thegreatreynoldo
March 08, 2023 at 04:39 am
The dead is $68.2M in 2024 if AR plays for GB in 2023.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:07 am
Rodgers has become complacent & bored. None of us can continue doing the same thing at a high level year in and year out. He needs a new beginning and challenge and I'm sure he realizes that.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 10:26 am
@knock....
That's a good point, but at 39 years old?
PackyCheese500
March 07, 2023 at 07:31 pm
Love does not want money, he wants to play! He deserves that opportunity, and I will wish Rodgers the best in NY.
Lphill
March 07, 2023 at 09:22 am
I doubt he takes the same road as Favre , not happening.
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 09:32 am
Maybe he wants to show farve he can get it done
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 09:36 am
LP, he already has.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 10:00 am
IMO LP your right.
I think thats why he came out and praised the
organization for his chance.
He wanted to retire a packer.
But the internal struggle with a GM
made this personal.
He played hurt.
He still wants to play.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:12 am
Do you remember all the times Favre stated even when hurt he didn't want to come out of games because it gave his back up an opportunity to take his job?
No doubt this was part of Rodgers reason for continuing to want to play with an 'injured' thumb. What I will never understand between the thumb & the consecutive losses why LeFluer didn't bench AR and play Love. Boggles my mind! If he had the Pack likely would have made the playoffs.
PackerHotDish
March 07, 2023 at 12:01 pm
Exactly why LeFluer should share in the blame for how the Packers performed in the first half of the season. The make-up of the starting offensive line was atrocious as was Amari as kick returner! Give blame where blame is due.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:29 pm
I totally expect him to take the exact same road as Favre... (Minus viks)
I also expect him to sign with the Jets.
He loves Hackett.
He can run his offense until he retires.
AR12 will be embraced in NY as opposed to second-guessed in GB.
Ever since Joe Namath offered AR12 his retired #12 jersey, I felt he would be traded to the Jets...
Tekraut17
March 07, 2023 at 09:25 am
I believe that if AR came back to the Packers and told them he was interested in playing for more than one year they told him they weren't interested and would prefer he do that with another team. I believe that for several reasons 1) They can't afford to hang Love out there for another year or they will lose him (and look like real idiots) 2) They just aren't convinced AR has 2 years of Superbowl quality play left in him 3) He's very expensive especially when you add in what they are going to have to pay Love. I also believe the Jets nor any other team will be seriously interested in taking on his $'s, giving up the picks necessary and putting up with the circus if he only can commit to a year by year deal. If the interested teams are convinced he's all in for 2 years minimum I think the deal will get done and fairly quick (pre 3/15). Just my 2 cents
Racingdad
March 07, 2023 at 09:34 am
I hope you are correct
Ferrari-Driver
March 07, 2023 at 09:51 am
Well, we will know how it all plays out in the near future. I've been an avid Packer fan for decades and I'm elated that we had one Hall of Fame quarterback in Favre followed by another. Rodgers and the Packers have given me years of great football to watch and I'm grateful for that. However, I'm convinced that it is time for new blood behind center for the team and I'm excited for the future. I wish Rodgers well and I really hope Love burns it up.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 10:31 am
Written like an intelligent adult.
Kudos, for showing the rest how Ferrari.
Bearmeat
March 07, 2023 at 09:59 am
Good. A few years too late. Get you gone, diva.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 10:33 am
A few years too late.... because the Packers didn't trade him when Rodgers said..."TRADE ME"
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:48 am
...but I thought he wanted to retire a Packer...?
He never waffles, right?
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 01:28 pm
There were circumstances around that.
But hey, call it waffling if you'd like.
I don't want you doing any critical thinking.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 01:46 pm
...there are always circumstances.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:50 pm
Rodgers is "generally" more honest than most throughout his career.
He's been honest to his detriment.
Can you point out some lie, or him misleading since 2008 dobber..sure you can, congrats.
But, can we not dumb this down?
Thanks for understanding.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 10:04 am
All along, it was going to reach this point. Rodgers will play for somebody else or he’ll retire. The TEAM will go forward.
I wouldn’t expect draft compensation this season, but would reckon it would be a late 1st round in 2024.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:19 am
That would be very dissapointing & failure with the front office if this happened. AR needs motivation & undoubtedly would go to Jets (or whoever) in the best shape of his life to prove everyone wrong. If the Jets are as talented as everyone says than a 1st rounder in 2024 would essentially be a high #2 pick.
That isn't even addressing the fact a rookie doesn't really mature and play close to their potential until year 2 or 3. Meaning a 2024 pick isn't really going to benefit the Packers significantly until 2025, or 2026.
dobber
March 07, 2023 at 10:52 am
"That would be very dissapointing & failure with the front office if this happened."
The compensation package will tell us a lot about how intent the Packers are to move things along.
If there's only one bidder, you can bet the compensation will suffer.
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:28 am
You can bet there is more than one bidder...
Not sure who can afford him, but the Jets aren't the only team going to make a pass at Aaron Rodgers if given the opportunity...
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 11:03 am
For financial purposes, the trade won’t go on the books until after June 1. The draft is in April. How do you propose the Packers get draft picks in a trade that happens after the draft?
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 11:29 am
IDK, but someone said he can be traded prior to 1 Jun, but still have an after 1 June designation... IDK if that is correct or not, but it sounded good to me at the time... ; P
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 07:53 pm
I don’t think that’s true. A post June 1 designated cut can take effect beforehand, but not a trade, as I understand it. The cut being allowed in order to allow the player to find a new employer without disadvantage through unavailability.
golfpacker1
March 07, 2023 at 10:22 am
I disagree on no compensation this year. The Jets have made it known how badly they want/need Rodgers. Plus there will be competition for him so we get picks and players for him this year and picks next year as well. Especially if we trade them Bahktiari as well. Above I laid out what I would ask for in a trade of them both to the Jets. 5 picks total spread over 3 year and Meki Becton-OT, Elijah Moore and Denzel Mims-WRs and Jeremy Ruckert-TE. I included Savage in the trade but maybe trade him to Denver for another young, dynamic TE, Albert Okwuegbunam who is also out of favor there. Other than Becton who was a high 1st rounder for the Jets, Green Bay was interested in drafting both the tight ends and wide receivers. I specifically remember the draft crush we had on Mims. We would be freed up in the draft to pick other positions of need like Saftey, Edge, DL,CB,OL.
Duhawk_47
March 07, 2023 at 03:57 pm
Interesting regarding Bakh - seems like a week ago all noise was "Packers restructure Clark, Alexander...Bakhtiari next in line for a restructure to free up cap space" I haven't heard a peep about Bakh's contract since.
Since'75
March 07, 2023 at 08:55 pm
LH.....or he'll play for the Packers, its his choice.
At that point the Packers would have 3 options..
1) Let him play
2) Bench him and pay him 60 million
3) Cut him, and pay him 60 million.
The Packers don't hold many cards in this game.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 10:13 am
Contract will get restructured. He’s willing. Packers don’t want him anymore. Jets do. Compensation will be negotiated. It’s going to be a done deal. It’s really that simple. Almost all can then move on to the good of the Packers.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 10:25 am
If it does what the hell are we going to talk about from now until April 27th?
Would 'Love to hear Love' gather last year's rookie WR's, and the upcoming 2023 WR's, and TE's for offseason workouts. Now that would really endear Jordan Love to many and would get many Packer fans behind him as he enters the coming season as QB #1.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 10:40 am
Well there are at least 3, based on consistent down votes anything slightly negative towards Rodgers, that won’t let it go anytime soon as you will soon see.
I think coaches and Love are going to change a few things in the way the QB/WR/TE room operates.
MainePackFan
March 07, 2023 at 10:49 am
The contract was always going to be restructured if he played, regardless of where he played.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 10:55 am
Right. My point was to those that don’t think a team would be willing to take on that contract.
Seeing as that will be done, on to the next points.
NWPackersfan
March 07, 2023 at 10:36 am
AR 4 MVP's and 1 SB
TB 3 MVP's and 7 SB's
Enough Said....time to move on!
NJMagic
March 07, 2023 at 10:38 am
I'm just happy we aren't reliving the Favre divorce. That was an ugly time in PackerWorld.
If/when Aaron leaves, my sense is the majority of us will range from "happy/past time" to "ok, time to move on" but all will be appreciative of his years as a Packer and there won't be bitter debates among us.
Will be a great start to the next phase, Jordan or ... Caleb Williams :-).
PatrickGB
March 07, 2023 at 10:46 am
Imagine the gnashing of teeth (and cramping of fingers) IF Rodgers decides to stay!
Oppy
March 07, 2023 at 09:53 pm
I've been gnashing teeth and using aspercream on my hands daily since 2020
wildbill
March 07, 2023 at 10:58 am
If Rodgers stays a Packer some of you will be angry. If Rodgers retires some of you will angry. If Rodgers goes to another team some of you will be angry. And then people wonder why someone like Rodgers doesn’t care what the fans think.
Despite what he has accomplished, with the Packers, some are always finding fault in anything related to him. He plays you weak minded cry babies like a fiddle. It’s actually fun to watch. You live for drama in your pathetic lives and I now feel sorry for Kizer 2.0 whenever Rodgers does leave.
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 12:53 pm
Many are pissed because the team made the playoffs, at home and the one guy who fd it up was Rodgers. Talk about a big disappointment. He loves those personal goals but could care less about playoffs or super bowls, this is all about him pal
LeotisHarris
March 07, 2023 at 03:37 pm
Can someone who has fun watching weak-minded crybabies being played like a fiddle accuse others of living for drama in their pathetic lives?
Irish_Cheesehead
March 07, 2023 at 11:02 am
Let's get this trade done! Physically, I think Rodgers can still play. Mentally, both on and off the field, he's lost it.
greengold
March 07, 2023 at 11:09 am
Bring on McLOVE 'N!!!
In the few reps Jordan Love did play last year, that ball came out quick! I can't wait to see this player with a rocket arm and young legs get -all- of the QB1 reps in the Green & Gold!
And, I appreciate all the great football Aaron Rodgers played for our team in his career to this point. 100%.
Now's the time. Love always wins.
mbpacker
March 07, 2023 at 11:25 am
Jeopardy tv show theme music while we wait?
greengold
March 08, 2023 at 01:54 am
Turd Ferguson
JohnnyLogan
March 07, 2023 at 11:26 am
Loved watching Rodgers play. Looking forward to Love. Season will be fascinating because it will be so different having someone behind center besides Favre or Rodgers. The only down side is the lack of confidence in the coaching staff. The entire staff and mostly LaFleur. He simply doesn’t seem to have the toughness or the smarts to lead a team, record aside. Hopefully I’ll eat those words. Does anyone have Holmgren’s phone number?
Swisch
March 07, 2023 at 01:48 pm
Part of the fun of next year would be seeing how the coaches do without Rodgers -- better or worse -- as well as players on the Packers.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:36 am
I think a huge weight would be lifted off everyone, management, coaches, and players. Aand maybe it becomes about the teams goals like it should be. I would bet $100 that if this deal goes thru Love will be working with all the pass catchers early and often. That probably is worth 10 points per game next year.
RichBeckman
March 07, 2023 at 11:26 am
Suddenly I feel anticipation, as opposed to anxiety, for next year!
Packerpasty
March 07, 2023 at 12:16 pm
https://www.pff.com/news/college-buyer-beware-on-utah-state-qb-jordan-love
of course he had new WR's and a new coach...much like AR did, but Love gets a pass??
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 12:37 pm
“Let me tell you … Jordan Love is better than Herbert, and I'd take him over anyone but Tua …” – anonymous NFL scout to Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller, September 2019
Lol... Did you even read it?
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 12:50 pm
If he was going or even planning on going to the Jets it wouldnt have leaked. His agent leaked this because Rodgers does not want to be traded but wants the Pack Org to shit their pants and contemplate the thoughts of Love as starter and will nix any deal.
No way Gutt and Murph put their careers on the line with Love. They are keeping Rodgers unless they get a great offer they cant refuse.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 05:48 pm
Strawman.
ImaPayne
March 07, 2023 at 01:00 pm
Wow I am and have been totally the opposite of many on this board who think Rodgers wants to play elsewhere. Think about this, he is on a team he controls, is totally in charge and scares the hell out of the brass when He doesnt get his way.
Human nature says, most people dont give that up for uncertainty, new coach, new team, new rules, fans expecting greatness on day one. If it was for big money ya, but he has big money and isnt getting any more so thats not an incentive. He could care less about Love, Love is his own problem not Rodgers.
No I see him fighting a trade and wanting to play one more season with the pack then adious suckers.
Also I dont think he gives a rats ass about playoffs. He just cares about his own stats is all.
HarryHodag
March 07, 2023 at 01:57 pm
His Darkness also is smart enough to know that the tide has turned against him in Green Bay.
The Jets could be a playoff contender if they had a QB that makes touchdowns not turnovers. 3/4 of MVP Aaron Rodgers is still better than the Jets had last year.
Stories emerged recently that the Packers were ticked at Rodgers for showing up late and not in top shape and then trying to throw his weight around. A scout who watched most of Rodgers plays during the season says he was losing his legs, a bad thing for a boxer and a QB.
I suspect Matt LF would love to have a QB who actually runs his offense as designed.
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 02:55 pm
Yeah, but Fubared, he doesn't control things in Green Bay anymore. He's done. They're done with him....they're exhausted, disgusted, whatever. They want Rodgers gone and Love to play
He's not going to force his way back. If he really was 100% in with the Packers, he wouldn't be talking to the Jets. He has taken his last snap as QB of the Packers. He can retire, or he can keep playing somewhere else, but he's done here.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:38 am
I don't think it will be up to Aaron. The organization is sick and tired of him.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 02:45 pm
Jets officials are flying to California to meet Rodgers.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/07/jets-officials-flying-to-cal...
Leatherhead
March 07, 2023 at 02:57 pm
Because they aren't interested in him, they're loading up a plane and flying across the country. They're just kicking the tires, blah blah blah.
No. They want Rodgers, and have all along. They're first in line. Maybe they're the only ones in line. But they're going to make their sales pitch "Come and play and win and have fun in Jersey!!' Plus money, of course.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 03:04 pm
Lol! Exactly. They are taking Woody’s Jet. Wouldn’t be surprised if they left with a deal done.
From article:
“ The Jets are bringing every person of importance in the organization. Among the participants going to California: Johnson, general manager Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Saleh and offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.”
Nothing to see here, move along. Dur.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:22 pm
Ya think Rodgers might try scuttling a deal?
LOL!
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:21 pm
Gutey & Murphy better make damn sure they get a decent return in draft capital and players. Throw in Elijah Moore, or a Corey Davis as the cherry on top!!!
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:20 pm
Sorry Moo!
Didn't see you had already posted this! Thanks!
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 04:33 pm
No worries. Hope a deal gets done before they leave. We all need them to put an end to this.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:19 pm
I just saw on ESPN that the Jets front office group (team officials) are on a plane to talk to Rodgers in Green Bay. This is from a Dan Graziano!
Interesting that they are flying to Green Bay to talk to Rodgers. Assuming it will be at 1265. Sounds very close to going down if not already done!
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
March 07, 2023 at 04:25 pm
I am now seeing from Moo's link that they are actually flying to CA to talk to Rodgers and not to Green Bay as originally reported.
MooPack
March 07, 2023 at 04:27 pm
Never mind you saw it.
LambeauPlain
March 07, 2023 at 04:46 pm
This is moving fast and reinforces Murphy's Football Committee has agreed to move on.
Even if agreement cannot be found with the Jets, other QB suitors would make calls.
I sense the Jets may try to underpay. Winners in negotiations usually have the most information, and the most time.
Packers have the most info, and the most time, currently.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 05:01 pm
If this does result in a trade, the lingering question is how did they come to give him the contract that they did last year?
LambeauPlain
March 07, 2023 at 05:23 pm
Decision by Committee last year and Murphy made that ultimate decision.
Now he making an admission he screwed up, probably in both contract capitulations to Rodgers.
And maybe Gutey is finally prevailing during the Committee meetings?
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 05:34 pm
For real. Somebody should be fired for such a disasterous decision.
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:49 am
With as much as the Jets have made it clear that Rodgers is their #1 priority. I really don't see a lowball offer coming. I think they will make their best offer right away. With Derek Carr off the table the Jets are all in. Green Bay should sweeten the deal by offering to trade Bahktiari along with Rodgers. Then Aaron could not say no. We could get a future 2nd rounder and players for the bonus of Bahk. How about An offensive tackle rumored to be on trade block Mecki Becton? Former 1st round pick and maybe our new future starting OT. A young healthy player for an older declining expensive player. A good opportunity to move him too.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 05:14 pm
If Rodgers decides to go.
Bahk better go too.
Get out while u can.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
March 07, 2023 at 05:34 pm
Like Rodgers, Bakh's younger and cheaper replacement is already on the roster.
stockholder
March 07, 2023 at 05:56 pm
When I grew up.
All the deals were in the basement.
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:51 pm
Perhaps that tells us more than anything
Johnblood27
March 07, 2023 at 05:26 pm
I am not buying any of the rumors until I read that the J-E-T-S plane is routed through Kiln and Murphy & Gutey shipped Rodgers LOCKER to Cali...
Parting gift for AR? How about a nice pair of Crocs and a gift certificate for a massage...
CheesedDeadHead
March 07, 2023 at 05:37 pm
"I am not buying any of the rumors until I read that the J-E-T-S plane is routed through Kiln and Murphy & Gutey shipped Rodgers LOCKER to Cali..."
I'm sure Rodgers will want to come back to Green Bay and say goodbye to Packerpasty's nephew. I hear they were great friends...
Johnblood27
March 09, 2023 at 06:29 am
I actually thought that all the Favre threads in that post were kinda funny, but I guess it either wasn't kinda funny or people here have NO SENSE OF HUMOR.
Guess which one I think?
jhtobias
March 07, 2023 at 06:56 pm
Actually the Sitcom called the Aaron Rodgers show is not the biggest mistake Gute ever has made or Murphy . I would say allowing Joe Berry to be your defensive coordinator going on Three years is much worse .
Coldworld
March 07, 2023 at 11:53 pm
Gute doesn’t control coaching hires. Crazy as that may sound, in GB, the GM is not part of that, that’s LaFleur and Murphy.
Igotthisround
March 07, 2023 at 08:07 pm
Jets - Raiders - Dolphins - who cares? Let's have a good old-fashioned bidding war.
CoachJV
March 07, 2023 at 08:12 pm
Green Bay Packers. Football team: an organization barely alive
We can rebuild it.
We will have the draft picks
We will have the cap space to make the NFL's newest threat
Jordan Love will lead that team
Younger than it was before
Younger, Stronger, Faster
BirdDogUni
March 07, 2023 at 10:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3JWFklREK8
stockholder
March 08, 2023 at 12:10 am
Rodgers had to give his consent he was
going to play,* for the trade talk to heat up. *
That is the most important part. !! (Tweet)
This is on management forcing him out the door.
Best Tar and feather job ever.
It also explains - keeping MLF at home.
This team/management is Now divided.
So much for two players away.
The only thing important, is Gute now.
MLF should resign before he's the next to go.
Because he will be next.
The rebuild starts when Rodgers Leaves.
Such a sad ending for a Trophy Town.
And the hero who tried his best.
Booner
March 08, 2023 at 09:13 am
Looks like Murphy and his band of merry men aka the three stooges want to move on from their MVP QB!
This will not end well for Gute and our arm flapping coach!
What a Cluster F!!!!!
golfpacker1
March 08, 2023 at 10:55 am
Would it be better to go through this drama with Rodgers every year going forward? Rodgers is still a good not great QB but he isn't getting younger or better. This is a great business opportunity for the Packers to get something back for their investment in Rodgers and start fixing the salary cap. Let someone else deal with the shitshow every year plus we score picks and players.
Spawny
March 09, 2023 at 11:27 am
The best part of an Aaron Rodgers trade will be not having to read the inane comments on this website. Those comments include the writers on Cheesehead, who have constantly hoped for the trade. In my life I've never heard such bullshit and two faced comments about a player who carried and embodied the Packers for the past 15 years.
When Aaron Rodgers got a call from Aaron Nagler he asked "who are you?" Well we all know what a snake in the grass you are. Rodgers deserves far better than the writers and posters on this website. You people disgust me. That include the fans, the writers here and the front office.
You dont become a 4 time MVP in the NFL without giving it your all. Beware of what you wish for! Jordan Love is an untried farce and this season will show it. Fans you better hope for 2 #1 picks because you will need them.
Instead of moving on from a defensive coordinator failure you people choose to blame the heart and soul of the Packers. Good luck country dumplings from Wisconsin. Good luck with you ignorant coach who takes the ball out of a superstars hands and kicks field goals. Then trots out the most overated defense in football.
Here to Rodgers winning another superbowl and 5th MVP. JETS will win 16 games this year. PACKERS will win 6. Remember be careful what you wish for.
Here is to the loyalty you all have shown a player who carried the Packers from obscurity to relevance.
BirdDogUni
March 09, 2023 at 11:44 am
LMM%'inAO...
Why are you holding back?
User name checks out.